Game overall analysis

[Italian Bills]

Even if i’m very happy for the win, i have to be straight on what i see: 

 

- overall grade game B-

- run game A (i love Cook)

- run game defense grade A+++

- Allen B (he seems lost.. don’t know what is it, but he’s not the Josh we know and need yet)

- Brisset had a very good game, but what about our defense ? 
- defense grade B

- secondary grade C- 

- penalties: too much !

 

In a brief recap if we play like this when we’ll face phins, jets and bengals we could be in trouble. 
 

For whatever reason we lost our mojo, we need to regain it very soon. 
 

Obviously we need to get some player back, Edmunds, Groot, Tre… right now we are too banged up to be a great defense again. 

Edited November 20, 2022 by Italian Bills

[entropyrules]

it was an awkwardly played game by the Bills. I wonder how much the lack of any practice had on the Bills game strategy/tactics - they just seemed off

Edited November 20, 2022 by entropyrules

[Italian Bills]

Just now, entropyrules said:

it was an awkwardly played game by the Bills. I wnder how much the lack of any practice had on the Bills game strategy/tactics - they just seemed off

Of course this bad week (not practicing enough and illness) didn’t help, but there’s something wrong with our passing game.. with Josh. 
 

He doesn’t seem himself. 

[stevestojan]

If you gave the secondary a C-, I REALLY wish you were grading my work in college. 

Edited November 20, 2022 by stevestojan

[Eastport bills]

9 minutes ago, Italian Bills said:

Even if i’m very happy for the win, i have to be straight on what i see: 

 

- overall grade game B-

- run game A (i love Cook)

- Allen B (he seems lost.. don’t know what is it, but he’s not the Josh we know and need yet)

- Brisset had a very good game, but what about our defense ? 
- defense grade B

- secondary grade C- 

- penalties: too much !

 

In a brief recap if we play like this when we’ll face phins, jets and bengals we could be in trouble. 
 

For whatever reason we lost our mojo, we need to regain it very soon. 
 

Obviously we need to get some player back, Edmunds, Groot, Tre… right now we are too banged up to be a great defense again. 

Allen looked lost for the 1st quarter and a half. Giving him the benefit of tough circumstances, he had a short practice week, a relocated game after a historic storm and coming off his worst 2 games turnover wise in 2seasons. He was fine after that and played controlled, smart football. The Bills ran the ball in thr 2nd half and scored on most of their drives. The biggest takeaway was this team is giving DCs plenty to worry about after that running display. Josh didn’t expose himself to hard hits and we got a good win.

 

[JoshAllin]

6 fg's instead of td's is strange with this team

[TFBillsfan]

I would add ST  A+
8 scores but only 2 TD’s isn’t good!

 

They continue to get very little from their slot WR and seems like they don’t even try to get Cook, Hines or McKenzie the ball in open space.

 

Still numerous question marks for me and they better be ready to go against Detroit. 7-3 and still haven’t play four solid qtrs in a game yet.  

[zow2]

Lessons learned from last week.  Boring wins are ok.  Field goals are ok.  Run and stop the run and ball security are time tested recipes for success.  It was obvious Allen was told to stop the hero mode nonsense and value each possession. They could’ve pushed the ball more on some of those 2nd half drives, but the % for a game changing turnover would have also risen. So they played conservative.  The game won’t always call for that strategy but i was fine with it today.

[Italian Bills]

8 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

If you gave the secondary a C-, I REALLY wish you were grading my work in college. 

Well… we are full of rookies and back up players… no Tre, no Hide, no Elam… our secondary is devastated. 

[Big Turk]

Nothing matters with everything they had to deal with this week other than getting the Dub.

 

That's some mental toughness to overcome all of that and then a sluggish start to take over the game.

 

Allen took the smart plays, they scored on 7 straight possessions, maybe Allen was a little gunshy trying NOT to turn it over...he will likely find the happy medium...

 

Just put this behind them and keep it moving.

[Italian Bills]

3 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Lessons learned from last week.  Boring wins are ok.  Field goals are ok.  Run and stop the run and ball security are time tested recipes for success.  It was obvious Allen was told to stop the hero mode nonsense and value each possession. They could’ve pushed the ball more on some of those 2nd half drives, but the % for a game changing turnover would have also risen. So they played conservative.  The game won’t always call for that strategy but i was fine with it today.

Agree,  sometimes you need this kind of ugly and dirty wins. 
 

Like i said weeks ago, if we find a way to rely some more on the run game, when we go after the 100 yards here, we could win almost every game. Obviously with a 100% JA and our D at full strength.

[No_Matter_What]

I think you guys are too harsh on secondary.

 

Last two games they were in good positions more often than not but opposing WRs are making insane catches (after insane throws of both Cousins and Brissett under presure). 

 

I am not saying they were playing great but it is not that bad as people are making it. JMO of course.

[Scott7975]

16 minutes ago, Italian Bills said:

Of course this bad week (not practicing enough and illness) didn’t help, but there’s something wrong with our passing game.. with Josh. 
 

He doesn’t seem himself. 

 

He hasnt thrown in practice since the injury.  There is a reason teams practice.  Its to stay on.  Josh is playing through an injury to his throwing elbow.  Hopefully he does better going forward.

[nucci]

37 minutes ago, Italian Bills said:

Even if i’m very happy for the win, i have to be straight on what i see: 

 

- overall grade game B-

- run game A (i love Cook)

- run game defense grade A+++

- Allen B (he seems lost.. don’t know what is it, but he’s not the Josh we know and need yet)

- Brisset had a very good game, but what about our defense ? 
- defense grade B

- secondary grade C- 

- penalties: too much !

 

In a brief recap if we play like this when we’ll face phins, jets and bengals we could be in trouble. 
 

For whatever reason we lost our mojo, we need to regain it very soon. 
 

Obviously we need to get some player back, Edmunds, Groot, Tre… right now we are too banged up to be a great defense again. 

secondary D or F

[realtruelove]

1 minute ago, nucci said:

secondary D or F

Who coaches the secondary?  He should take the rest of the year off.

[Italian Bills]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

He hasnt thrown in practice since the injury.  There is a reason teams practice.  Its to stay on.  Josh is playing through an injury to his throwing elbow.  Hopefully he does better going forward.

And now he’ll have just 3 days before the next one. 

 

Injuries, weather, flu/cold, schedule….. something else against us maybe ? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[Scott7975]

Just now, Italian Bills said:

And now he’ll have just 3 days before the next one. 

 

Injuries, weather, flu/cold, schedule….. something else against us maybe ? 🤦🏽‍♂️

 

Yeah we are having a rough season.  Yet are still 7-3. I long for the day this team is back to full health.  Obviously without Hyde still.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Zero turnovers. 
Ran the ball.

Held Chubb in check.

 

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

I think you guys are too harsh on secondary.

 

Last two games they were in good positions more often than not but opposing WRs are making insane catches (after insane throws of both Cousins and Brissett under presure). 

 

I am not saying they were playing great but it is not that bad as people are making it. JMO of course.

They’re in position but never turn around.  Dane especially.  He turned once in the 4th qtr and forced an incompletion.  
 

to their credit, the browns made some nice catches (and drops) and Brissett some nice throws. 

[KDIGGZ]

For the love of God, can they play Tre White and Xavier Rhodes back there? What else do they have to see from these corners to know that they aren't starters? Lions have a decent passing game, it's not going to be an easy win

[newcam2012]

22 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:

Allen looked lost for the 1st quarter and a half. Giving him the benefit of tough circumstances, he had a short practice week, a relocated game after a historic storm and coming off his worst 2 games turnover wise in 2seasons. He was fine after that and played controlled, smart football. The Bills ran the ball in thr 2nd half and scored on most of their drives. The biggest takeaway was this team is giving DCs plenty to worry about after that running display. Josh didn’t expose himself to hard hits and we got a good win.

I liked the Bills run game today. The Browns run D is among the worst in the league. Hard to know how could the Bills run game will be going forward. 

[HoofHearted]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

They’re in position but never turn around.  Dane especially.  He turned once in the 4th qtr and forced an incompletion.  
 

to their credit, the browns made some nice catches (and drops) and Brissett some nice throws. 

His issue is at the collision point. He’s not a man corner - neither is Benford - their hips aren’t as fluid as the receivers they’ve been lining up across from and their getting beat at the collision point and then having the play their trail technique which is why they are trying to play through receivers hands and not turning around.

 

Jefferson and Cooper were both doing a really outstanding job of flashing hands as late as they possibly could so that our punch throughs were late. Really good WR play.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

26 minutes ago, motorj said:

6 fg's instead of td's is strange with this team

 

The last two were what they learned from the past game.  They were not going to pass the ball, they were satisfied with just wanted to run the clock down and kick.

[No_Matter_What]

8 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Yeah we are having a rough season.  Yet are still 7-3. I long for the day this team is back to full health.  Obviously without Hyde still.

I think its becoming quite obvious that we will never be in full health this season (not counting Hyde). It is just not meant to be unfortunately. If we will be able to overcome it remains to be seen. I am still very optimistic.

[BBills_88]

This game was the 1st were JA didn't have to put the team on his back. 

 

Running game was great today, Motor & Cook were assume. Hope it continues the rest of the season.

 

I'm still not sure what Dorsey is doing on offense.  Is scheming players open, is he attacking defenses weaknesses or is he just running his offensive attack no matter the defense. 

 

On defensive we have 5 yards to mug and jam receivers, can we use it. I'm tired of the bailing and giving 7 yard cushions of free running.

 

 DB's need to turn their head.

 

Great team win today. 

 

Let's go Bills!!!!

[Eastport bills]

29 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I liked the Bills run game today. The Browns run D is among the worst in the league. Hard to know how could the Bills run game will be going forward. 

At least they’re making it part of the game plan . It doesn’t look like Cook needs much of a lane. Motor looked really good also. Now the passing game will benefit and I’d love to see a few screens to Hines and Cook.

[Billever76]

41 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

For the love of God, can they play Tre White and Xavier Rhodes back there? What else do they have to see from these corners to know that they aren't starters? Lions have a decent passing game, it's not going to be an easy win

On the plus side lions defense is 🗑 

[What a Tuel]

The good news is that since the browns scored late and made it a one score game, this goes to the vaunted "1 score game" credit for McDermott! So glad we allowed it to be one score so his record could improve there /s. 😂😂

[PromoTheRobot]

[Kaenon]

Who else felt that the Browns player could've almost taken that last onside kick to the house over Davis for a TD and be a 2-pt. conversion away from tying the game and forcing OT .....

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, Kaenon said:

Who else felt that the Browns player could've almost taken that last onside kick to the house over Davis for a TD and be a 2-pt. conversion away from tying the game and forcing OT .....

 

You can't advance a recovered onside kick.

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Eastport bills said:

At least they’re making it part of the game plan . It doesn’t look like Cook needs much of a lane. Motor looked really good also. Now the passing game will benefit and I’d love to see a few screens to Hines and Cook.

Today's gameplan was about taking everything that the Browns gave you. If checkdowns are open, take them. If Cleveland sucks at run D, then attack it.  Don't force 4th down and take the fgs. Bass had 3 tds worth of fgs.  And Josh didn't have to be Hercules. He had 0 turnovers.  I'd do the same thing Thursday. 

[Eastport bills]

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

Today's gameplan was about taking everything that the Browns gave you. If checkdowns are open, take them. If Cleveland sucks at run D, then attack it.  Don't force 4th down and take the fgs. Bass had 3 tds worth of fgs.  And Josh didn't have to be Hercules. He had 0 turnovers.  I'd do the same thing Thursday. 

Perfect assessment. Now let’s keep doing it.

[QLBillsFan]

12 minutes ago, Kaenon said:

Who else felt that the Browns player could've almost taken that last onside kick to the house over Davis for a TD and be a 2-pt. conversion away from tying the game and forcing OT .....

Not me.. tough bounce the Browns player had no room on the sideline.. and the other Bills player with a 2 jersey wisely punched it out of bounds.. having said that feel free to run a play action pass to put the game away.. yikes 

Edited November 21, 2022 by QLBillsFan

[Simon]

1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said:

Not me.. tough bounce the Browns player had no room on the sideline.. and the other Bills player with a 2 jersey wisely punched it out of bounds.. 

 

I think that was Taiwan Jones.

And that ball couldn't have been advanced anyways. Even if he recovers it, by rule it's down at that spot.

[DCbillsfan]

9 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I think that was Taiwan Jones.

And that ball couldn't have been advanced anyways. Even if he recovers it, by rule it's down at that spot.

Is that a new rule about advancing an onside kick?  Hyde advanced one for a TD a few years back.

[freddyjj]

6 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

Is that a new rule about advancing an onside kick?  Hyde advanced one for a TD a few years back.

Miami kicked off that onside kick and Hyde returned it for Bills.  Bills were receiving team.  

[Airseven]

Who is groot?

 

Marvel movies are corporate mindless trash.

[Solomon Grundy]

3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

For the love of God, can they play Tre White and Xavier Rhodes back there? What else do they have to see from these corners to know that they aren't starters? Lions have a decent passing game, it's not going to be an easy win

For the experience alone!! 

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

Bills are literally getting no production out of the 3rd WR position.  McKenzie honestly offers very little to the offense.  Teams are doubling Diggs, and Davis has been inconsistent.  We seriously miss Beasley’s production out of the slot, and we are getting nothing out of the #4 WR position that Davis used to provide last year.

Edited November 21, 2022 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine