Wawrow hints an Internal Issues with the Bills

[Beck Water]

47 minutes ago, boyst said:

There is a lot of things that can be said so while I say this, please keep in mind I am not focusing this at you but your comment opens the chance to weigh in... 

 

Tampa Bay has a lack of depth at WR, an inconsistent running back situation, an underwhelming OL, a defense that isn't in rhythm.

 

Miami has no running back, and no threat on the ground (Tua scrambling is a bad idea), their OL is over achieving and may come back to reality, their defense is a joke. And Tua is one sneeze away from death.

 

The Jets are a coin flip of a team that won't get the job done.

 

The Titans have a weakness at QB but are otherwise quite a sound team. Their pass coverage and run defense as a whole are over achieving. They might be a one of the better teams in the league.

 

KC has no run game. KEH is hurt. Tooney and whoever else are at WR are not Hill and members past, with their rook not playing to his potential yet.  Their defense is barely surviving. Without Kelce and Mahomes they're done.

 

Minnesota is the luckiest team in the league. Very good and playing the fundamentals well but they should have lost 1 or 2 games. But now they have swagger.

 

My point is every team has flaws.

 

However, my two favorites to win and succeed based on their football product is Minnesota and Tennessee. 

 

There seems to be a couple omissions from your discussion, notably the Eagles.  What's not to like about the football product they're showing the NFL this season?

 

They've got a top 10 defense (#8 currently), they have a pretty good run game (#6 for yds).  They have a running back who gets more attempts and yds than their QB.  Their passing game is #25 for attempts but inching towards top-10 for yds (currently #11).

 

Most importantly, they are #1 for turnovers on both offense AND defense - they don't beat themselves.

[FireChans]

41 minutes ago, NewEra said:

The best dual threat QB in the game has been the biggest reason for our lack of TDs in the red zone.  Dorsey deserves some blame, no doubt…..but 17 deserves the majority of the blame for our red zone failures.  He’s made some horrific decisions and throws.  

He has been a problem for sure. But watch the Cover1 stuff. Play design is even more horrific.

 

Edited November 19, 2022 by FireChans

[Breakout Squad]

22 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I live in the south and tried Genny beer for the first time.

 

It reminded me of drinking creme soda as a kid, only it was a beer.

 

It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible. 

 

That's my review of it

Genny Cream Ale is good. Regular Genny tastes like creek water to me 🤷

[Nextmanup]

2 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

Genny Cream Ale is good. Regular Genny tastes like creek water to me 🤷

Well, I grew up in WNY and love beer.  Any of that stuff is more or less ballerina piss.

 

Mainstream American beer (and Canadian) is undrinkable.

 

It's not really "beer" by the international standards of what beer is.

 

But like everything food/drink related, if the individual likes it, it's good enough, and the one to go with.

 

Drink what you enjoy!

 

 

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

However, my two favorites to win and succeed based on their football product is Minnesota and Tennessee. 

 

And then there is this

 

 

[Nextmanup]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

And then there is this

 

 

How does that piece of news relate to a thread about rumored internal problems with the Bills organization?

 

 

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

There seems to be a couple omissions from your discussion, notably the Eagles.  What's not to like about the football product they're showing the NFL this season?

 

They've got a top 10 defense (#8 currently), they have a pretty good run game (#6 for yds).  They have a running back who gets more attempts and yds than their QB.  Their passing game is #25 for attempts but inching towards top-10 for yds (currently #11).

 

Most importantly, they are #1 for turnovers on both offense AND defense - they don't beat themselves.

The eagles have a very good team but are beatable.

22 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

And then there is this

 

 

Just boys being boys. 

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

How does that piece of news relate to a thread about rumored internal problems with the Bills organization?

 

Well, since it was a response to a guy opining that his two favorites to win the Superbowl are Minnesota and Tennessee, I would say off hand that it probably doesn't.  Thread drift is a Thing

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

The eagles have a very good team but are beatable.

 

Inarguable since they were just beaten

 

One could say the same thing about Tennessee and Minnesota - both are good teams but have weaknesses and are beatable.

 

3 hours ago, boyst said:

Just boys being boys. 

 

Not quite what was said around here when Ed Oliver was charged with DUI

Also not quite what the NFL personal conduct policy says

[K-9]

17 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Inarguable since they were just beaten

 

One could say the same thing about Tennessee and Minnesota - both are good teams but have weaknesses and are beatable.

 

 

Not quite what was said around here when Ed Oliver was charged with DUI

Also not quite what the NFL personal conduct policy says

That’s because the charge was complete bullcrap from the get go. 

[Scott7975]

On 11/16/2022 at 11:42 PM, john wawrow said:

Nah.

Here’s the deal.

It’s tough enough wading through all the ***** I do on Twitter.

 

I’ve been on here for a long time (but not so much of late), and have occasionally been asked to share some insight.

Here, given how much of time passed from last season, I thought I’d share something about something you folks might be interested in that I’ve come across but really doesn’t impact THIS season.

 

So I shared and found out that this is board is a lot like the experience of engaging with all the ***** on Twitter.

 

So call me thin-skinned, call me a ***** #######, or tell me that I suck, or don’t know anything, I’ll be fine with it, because it’s all been directed at me on the Twitter.

Thing is, I don’t need to go through it twice. 

So this IS my last post.

 

See ya.

 

This is exactly why its terrible journalism.  The original Wawrow tweets imply there is currently internal conflicts, struggles, whatever the f.  This post here indicates he isnt talking about now at all but last season.

 

All this speculation in this thread about what this "internal struggles" are, are the reason its bad reporting from an accredited journalist.  This journalist is doing nothing but causing drama and conflict amongst us Bills fans for no reason.

 

If you have a story then report it.  If you have some vague BS then just keep it to yourself.

Edited November 20, 2022 by Scott7975

[Rico]

18 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

'Ya think so?

College Frat parties (anyone could attend) frequently had kegs of Genny Cream. We used to call it: "Hangover in a Drum".(For good reason)

When it came to Genny Cream Ale, it wasn’t the hangovers as much as the sh#ts. 

[BillsPride12]

4 minutes ago, Rico said:

When it came to Genny Cream Ale, it wasn’t the hangovers as much as the sh#ts. 

There's a reason they call it a Cream Ale

[WotAGuy]

3 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

There's a reason they call it a Cream Ale

We always used “Genny Screamers”

[Scott7975]

4 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

There's a reason they call it a Cream Ale

[US Egg]

Maybe Wawrow is trying to fill the sports journalist baiting void left by Bucky and Sully.

 

[beerme1]

9 hours ago, Breakout Squad said:

Genny Cream Ale is good. Regular Genny tastes like creek water to me 🤷

 

You can't be serious. Neither is good. Both are beyond, *****.

[Einstein]

10 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

There seems to be a couple omissions from your discussion, notably the Eagles.  What's not to like about the football product they're showing the NFL this season?

 

They've got a top 10 defense (#8 currently), they have a pretty good run game (#6 for yds).  They have a running back who gets more attempts and yds than their QB.  Their passing game is #25 for attempts but inching towards top-10 for yds (currently #11).

 

Most importantly, they are #1 for turnovers on both offense AND defense - they don't beat themselves.

 

That last paragraph. Their turnover differential is not sustainable. Their winning games due to a completely lopsided turnover differential that history has shown us does not stay like that for long.

[Airseven]

Bills fans chopping wood right now with salient points everywhere!

[Breakout Squad]

5 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

'Ya think so?

College Frat parties (anyone could attend) frequently had kegs of Genny Cream. We used to call it: "Hangover in a Drum".(For good reason)

Oh it’ll give you a hangover. But it tastes decent haha. I love Blue but if I get crazy I have a nice headache the next day. 

[teef]

I’m checking in to see what @Jrb1979 will be drinking today.  Whatever it is, I assume it involves a gold chalice. 

[WotAGuy]

46 minutes ago, teef said:

I’m checking in to see what @Jrb1979 will be drinking today.  Whatever it is, I assume it involves a gold chalice. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

12 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

'Ya think so?

College Frat parties (anyone could attend) frequently had kegs of Genny Cream. We used to call it: "Hangover in a Drum".(For good reason)

Cream ale would have been an upgrade over the Nasty Ice or Milwaukee's worst I'd see at keg parties 

[UKBillFan]

Internal issues surrounding White, considering how Eric Wood and Chris Brown have reportedly laid into him?

[Alphadawg7]

20 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

How does that piece of news relate to a thread about rumored internal problems with the Bills organization?

 

 

Well considering there are no rumored internal issues at OBD, this post relates to this thread as much as any post about your manufactured fake thread story here.  

[Nextmanup]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Well considering there are no rumored internal issues at OBD, this post relates to this thread as much as any post about your manufactured fake thread story here.  

LOL.  It's an opinion Einstein.  It's funny that you so violently oppose it, though, not because it's basis is unsound, but simply because you don't like the possible outcome.

 

Get over it chief; try to enjoy life beyond the Buffalo f-ing Bills.

 

You and so many here confuse your own personal identity with the team.

 

You're not on the team. You're not a part of the team.  Get over it.

 

 

[WotAGuy]

11 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

LOL.  It's an opinion Einstein.  It's funny that you so violently oppose it, though, not because it's basis is unsound, but simply because you don't like the possible outcome.

 

Get over it chief; try to enjoy life beyond the Buffalo f-ing Bills.

 

You and so many here confuse your own personal identity with the team.

 

You're not on the team. You're not a part of the team.  Get over it.

 

 

Considering this point is being made on a forum dedicated to people who love the Buffalo Bills football team, this has to be the dumbest post ever.  And that’s saying something. Good job. 
 

EDIT: Actually, your Dawson Knox post was dumber than this.  You are on a roll.  
 

 

Edited November 20, 2022 by WotAGuy

[Alphadawg7]

7 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

LOL.  It's an opinion Einstein.  It's funny that you so violently oppose it, though, not because it's basis is unsound, but simply because you don't like the possible outcome.

 

Get over it chief; try to enjoy life beyond the Buffalo f-ing Bills.

 

You and so many here confuse your own personal identity with the team.

 

You're not on the team. You're not a part of the team.  Get over it.

 

 

Stop.  This isn’t about opinion.  This is about people like you so desperately want this to be true that you will sit here for almost 50 pages trying to will it into existence.  
 

And it’s totally your schtick.  You do this all season and off season long.  You look for any sliver of negative doubt you can sow about everything.  
 

And I am “violently opposed to it” as you out it BECAUSE ITS ALL MADE UP.  If there is a REAL issue, I’d be all over talking about it.  
 

But yeah, I don’t like to live in the world of make believe and fake news.  I leave that to politicians.  I prefer to stay grounded in reality and talk about real stories and facts.  
 

But I get this thread is your Christmas play ground for your negativity addiction.  

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Stop.  This isn’t about opinion.  This is about people like you so desperately want this to be true that you will sit here for almost 50 pages trying to will it into existence.  
 

And it’s totally your schtick.  You do this all season and off season long.  You look for any sliver of negative doubt you can sow about everything.  
 

And I am “violently opposed to it” as you out it BECAUSE ITS ALL MADE UP.  If there is a REAL issue, I’d be all over talking about it.  
 

But yeah, I don’t like to live in the world of make believe and fake news.  I leave that to politicians.  I prefer to stay grounded in reality and talk about real stories and facts.  
 

But I get this thread is your Christmas play ground for your negativity addiction.  

Don't worry. We'll win today and some of these negative posters will disappear until the next few days. Success is too hard on them.

[muppy]

Buckle UP people we have a football game to ponder in t-minus 35 minutes give or take.  Take some midol and get with it. 

 

Don't make me get the hose!

 

😏

 

GO BILLS!!~!!!

[JDubya76]

20 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Well, I grew up in WNY and love beer.  Any of that stuff is more or less ballerina piss.

 

 

Is she a hot ballerina? That may make a difference for some.

[BillsShredder83]

26 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

Internal issues surrounding White, considering how Eric Wood and Chris Brown have reportedly laid into him?

I missed what Wood said. They have a year overlap I believe, before he retired? 

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I missed what Wood said. They have a year overlap I believe, before he retired? 

 

I think I'm right in saying that they basically claimed that medical opinion is that White is ready to play and the coaches want to start him. White doesn't feel ready, rumours being he has concerns about his knee on synthetic pitches. From what I understand, everything said by Wood and Brown is cleared by OBD, so the assumption is they are happy for them to say White needs to get out of his head and turn up for the team.

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I think I'm right in saying that they basically claimed that medical opinion is that White is ready to play and the coaches want to start him. White doesn't feel ready, rumours being he has concerns about his knee on synthetic pitches. From what I understand, everything said by Wood and Brown is cleared by OBD, so the assumption is they are happy for them to say White needs to get out of his head and turn up for the team.

I didn’t hear either of these statements from Wood or Brown. Was it on One Bills Live and Wood’s segment with Schopp and Bulldog?

[UKBillFan]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

I didn’t hear either of these statements from Wood or Brown. Was it on One Bills Live and Wood’s segment with Schopp and Bulldog?

 

Only reporting from what someone posted on the Game Day thread; I missed it. Though they didn't mention the synthetic turf bit on OBD - that was someone else. Sorry, mashed what was reported together.

 

 

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Only reporting from what someone posted on the Game Day thread; I missed it. Though they didn't mention the synthetic turf bit on OBD - that was someone else. Sorry, mashed what was reported together.

 

 

Just stop

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Just stop

 

Thought it was worth mentioning on the thread considering something was brought up and this thread has made 49 pages of empty speculation.

 

In a way, I'd be unhappy if there wasn't a bit of tension at OBD after the manner we lost the last two games. As long as we pull together now.

 

Sorry, won't bring that up again.

[SCBills]

Bills Roundtable definitely got the green light to call out Tre. 
 

Wood mentioned McDermott’s vibe this week and spoke to the mental vs physical aspect.   Chris Brown was not so subtle and basically called him out, saying he’s making a lot of money and instead of listening to OBJ who’s telling him to be careful, he owes it to his team to play - given he’s medically cleared to play. 

[Coach Tuesday]

Been a terrible month for Buffalo sports fans.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I think I'm right in saying that they basically claimed that medical opinion is that White is ready to play and the coaches want to start him. White doesn't feel ready, rumours being he has concerns about his knee on synthetic pitches. From what I understand, everything said by Wood and Brown is cleared by OBD, so the assumption is they are happy for them to say White needs to get out of his head and turn up for the team.

What is synthetic pitches? Something to do with turf?