Beck Water Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Rhodes and Poyer need to be the starters moving forward When has Rhodes played safety? Damar Hamlin has been playing well. I think Poyer and Hamlin work better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I could see him replacing Kyler McMichael on the practice squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, KOKBILLS said: He's a downhill thumper who has been a major liability in coverage... Teams are running all over against. Our passing D does not rely on one guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just curious what is the process for picking somebody like him up? Do the worst teams have ever shot at him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, ngbills said: Cant tell me we dont need some of that right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Interesting. Maybe the Raiders have all but gave up on this season. If so, release Josh Jacobs😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim0904 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 GET HIMMMMM He is great tackler which we need... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Just curious what is the process for picking somebody like him up? Do the worst teams have ever shot at him? Actually, yes. The worse teams actually have a better shot at him. A team can put in a claim for a player on waivers. Preference goes from worst team to best team (think draft order). So if the Bills put in a claim for him, but, for example, the Panthers also put in a claim, the Panthers would get him because they are higher in the waiver order. However, if a player is claimed on waivers, the claiming team is responsible for his existing contract. If he clears waivers (meaning no team claims him), then he becomes a free agent and any team can sign him for whatever they agree to. Hope that makes sense! Edited November 9, 2022 by CLTbills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: This. He's not a coverage safety. He's essentially a bad Jamal Adams. Pretending to know anything about Abram. Cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Pretending to know anything about Abram. Cute. Where do you take someone who had a peek a boo accident? The ICU 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Process said: The most shocking thing is that the Rams actually used a draft pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 can't be worse than Johnson? 7 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: What do the Bills have to lose? When a first round pick doesn't pan out, I generally think it's because he needs a change in scenery and coaching. Poyer was not well thought of prior to coming here. Hyde was a highly regarded backup. No risk and potentially huge reward with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: can't be worse than Johnson? Poyer was not well thought of prior to coming here. Hyde was a highly regarded backup. No risk and potentially huge reward with him. With their injuries, I don’t see how you can’t seriously consider this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 17 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: This. He's not a coverage safety. He's essentially a bad Jamal Adams. So Donte Whitner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Why not pick him up? Possibly a bad fit with the Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 He's a linebacker. If the Bills picked him up, that's where I'd play him. He's good at run defense, and he may improve in coverage with less territory and responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Now isn’t the time to take chances on struggling players on bad teams. Maybe the old Bills would. I don’t need this guy getting some bone-headed late hit penalty in a crucial game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 If you can't hack it with the Raiders--you can't hack it anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, boater said: If you can't hack it with the Raiders--you can't hack it anywhere. Absolutely, I mean Randy Moss was so washed up right?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 12 hours ago, CLTbills said: Actually, yes. The worse teams actually have a better shot at him. A team can put in a claim for a player on waivers. Preference goes from worst team to best team (think draft order). So if the Bills put in a claim for him, but, for example, the Panthers also put in a claim, the Panthers would get him because they are higher in the waiver order. However, if a player is claimed on waivers, they are responsible for his existing contract. If he clears waivers (meaning no team claims him), then he becomes a free agent and any team can sign him for whatever they agree to. Hope that makes sense! You nailed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 hours ago, RyanC883 said: can't be worse than Johnson? Poyer was not well thought of prior to coming here. Hyde was a highly regarded backup. No risk and potentially huge reward with him. As a first round pick though, he probably has a decent-sized contract. I haven't taken the time to go look it up. They may not want that. They may want to let him clear waivers, then sign him for a vet-minimum, "prove it" type deal. That's the risk. The first-round pick contract that is attached. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 18 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: He ain’t good but would be an upgrade over Johnson. Kinda like being the best looking dude in the ICU Burn Unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Who knows. Sometimes a fresh start is what a player needs. But the money has to be cap friendly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Has to be better than Jaquan Johnson, if I were Beane I’d look into it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Even though he is undersized, Abram is probably in the top-5 of hardest hitting safeties in the league right now (whatever that counts for). He will often launch himself recklessly at opponents which leads to him getting hurt regularly. He's knocked himself out before, and has even taken out two of his own teammates by accident. The scouting reports here of him being poor in coverage are accurate, but then again he is a much better player than Johnson as many here have also mentioned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 It looks like 2.9M to pick him up. Teams are going to start running more on us. You could bench Juquan and go with 3 safeties. We need to stop obsessing about getting beat deep, and start stopping the run game and short/intermediate routes. He's fast as he'll and doesn't miss tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: It looks like 2.9M to pick him up. Teams are going to start running more on us. You could bench Juquan and go with 3 safeties. We need to stop obsessing about getting beat deep, and start stopping the run game and short/intermediate routes. He's fast as he'll and doesn't miss tackles. after this week, + miami we don't have much to worry about regarding getting beat deep. i don't think i am worried about cinci's deep game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, boyst said: after this week, + miami we don't have much to worry about regarding getting beat deep. i don't think i am worried about cinci's deep game. Exactly.....Cinncy and our home Miami game is it. Cousins isn't going to light it up deep. The Bills defensive staff have got to swallow some of their stubbornness and be willing to make adjustments. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, CLTbills said: As a first round pick though, he probably has a decent-sized contract. I haven't taken the time to go look it up. They may not want that. They may want to let him clear waivers, then sign him for a vet-minimum, "prove it" type deal. That's the risk. The first-round pick contract that is attached. I agree. I'd wait to see if he clears waivers, then I'd be on the phone ASAP. (unless we are okay with rolling the dice on that first round contract and trust our secondary system to fit him like it has for poyer, hyde, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, QCity said: Even though he is undersized, Abram is probably in the top-5 of hardest hitting safeties in the league right now (whatever that counts for). He will often launch himself recklessly at opponents which leads to him getting hurt regularly. He's knocked himself out before, and has even taken out two of his own teammates by accident. The scouting reports here of him being poor in coverage are accurate, but then again he is a much better player than Johnson as many here have also mentioned. Which I feel we need. We need someone who can bully the other team a bit. At worst he is a situational player that can lay some wood on folks. Much better than Johnson and not bad vs run heavy teams and many of the potential playoff matchups - Jets, Titans, Ravens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Wonder if OBD makes switch to Marlowe if Poyer can't go. He started 3-4 games his last year here when Hyde and Poyer were dinged up. Physically bigger and faster than Jaquan Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: It looks like 2.9M to pick him up. Teams are going to start running more on us. You could bench Juquan and go with 3 safeties. We need to stop obsessing about getting beat deep, and start stopping the run game and short/intermediate routes. He's fast as he'll and doesn't miss tackles. it all comes back to whether we expect to be the #1 offense. Teams aren’t going to rush for 30 ppg on us. If we become a team that turns over the ball in the red zone then it’s a whole different conversation the colts best defensive player was Peyton manning. That dude was a terrible run defender but racked up sacks and turnovers and never gave up a deep ball 15 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Wonder if OBD makes switch to Marlowe if Poyer can't go. He started 3-4 games his last year here when Hyde and Poyer were dinged up. Physically bigger and faster than Jaquan Johnson. my suspicion is the term starter won’t matter and that it’ll be package assignments with splits based on situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Green Bay just got him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Damn! I was really hoping we could get him. Stupid Packers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Green Bay just got him. I’m not sure that’s what Rodgers meant when he asked for more weapons? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Green Bay just got him. Can he play receiver too? 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 3:35 PM, MiltonWaddams said: What about Burgess Meredith? Always liked him... I met a guy a few days ago that is probably in his seventies who could be Burgess Merediths stand in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 hours ago, NoSaint said: it all comes back to whether we expect to be the #1 offense. Teams aren’t going to rush for 30 ppg on us. If we become a team that turns over the ball in the red zone then it’s a whole different conversation the colts best defensive player was Peyton manning. That dude was a terrible run defender but racked up sacks and turnovers and never gave up a deep ball my suspicion is the term starter won’t matter and that it’ll be package assignments with splits based on situation Our defense is designed to compliment our offense when that offense is humming along. We saw that in the Packers game except we didn't do ***** in the 2nd half on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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