njbuff Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, zow2 said: Just give Josh the rest he needs. Give Keenum the Zach Wilson game plan from yesterday (hit your short passes and don’t screw up the game by turning it over). If Keenum can’t execute it, let Barkley have a try. Keenum is brutal, man. The season is done if Allen is lost for any time. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, zow2 said: Just give Josh the rest he needs. Give Keenum the Zach Wilson game plan from yesterday (hit your short passes and don’t screw up the game by turning it over). If Keenum can’t execute it, let Barkley have a try. From what I have seen, Keenum is awful. I would prefer Barkley over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Process said: Next up: Tommy John surgery. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Injuries happen all the time even though I think Josh is fine but Beane has some responsibility for this as well. These one year stop gaps and middle round picks on the oline is going to come back to bite him eventually. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Next up: Tommy John surgery. Go away. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Yup, I would say very unsettling. I bet something happened in the Green Bay game and it was further aggravated yesterday. He needs to sit as long as it takes to get to 100%. My prediction on how I will be dealing with this over the next 48 hours Stage 1 - Ok, I don't even care about the #1 seed, just hope Allen is back for the Cleveland game Stage 2 - Let's just get him back for Jets and Miami games so we can still win the division Stage 3 - Monitoring Chargers and Patriots hoping to grab a Wild Card Stage 4 - Are we listed on "in the hunt" yet? I honestly think they can win a fair amount with Keenum. We wont see as many double digit games but they can win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Next up: Tommy John surgery. I can't even...I need to duck out of here until Wednesday...I just can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Go away. There is absolutely zero chance of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, njbuff said: Keenum is brutal, man. The season is done if Allen is lost for any time. I don’t disagree. But if JA really needs to rest the elbow, they may have no choice. even at 6-3 or 6-4 they can still make the playoffs and hopefully have him back healthier. And it’s possible the D will ball out and win a game or two on their side of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Gugny said: There is absolutely zero chance of that happening. So you’re saying there’s a chance….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: Next up: Tommy John surgery. That means his career is over and he won’t throw a football for literally 18 months please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 This thread should be locked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffbigalls Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Allen had a UCL injury before he missed 4 games. Dr chow said if it is UCL he will miss some time, but no surgery or anything along those lines. And missing time now would be better than making it worse. But again that's all speculation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Dr. David Chao on Movin' the Chains SiriusXM NFL Radio just said if he were a betting man, he would say Josh will miss 1-2 games to let the UCL heal. But no surgery or anything like that. If this were the playoffs, Josh would play. Edited November 7, 2022 by chongli 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: Next up: Tommy John surgery. Hopefully he will be ok for pitchers and cathcers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Ready to practice does not equate to ready for live game action. He hasn't played in 11 months, there is a LOT of stuff that he needs to get back into football shape with. They are not risking putting him back out there before he is ready to play FOOTBALL, not just practice and be medically cleared. I'm not sure how it is surprising that a player will need time to ramp up to playing in an actual game when he hasn't been able to practice for 11 months. And everyone thinks that OBJ will come on and save the offense, after having his surgery 2 months after Tre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, chongli said: Dr. David Chow on Movin' the Chains SiriusXM NFL Radio just said if he was a betting man, he would say Josh will miss 1-2 games to let the UCL heal. But no surgery or anything like that. If this were the playoffs, Josh would play. So in other words half this board is going to get their wish and see what life is like without Josh Allen. Here’s a hint you’re going to miss him…..alot 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 No Josh against Minnesota or Cleveland? 6-4 here we come. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Stop with the doomsday bullcrap. Allen had a UCL injury has rookie season and he was fine afterwards. Hopefully this time is less severe, or at least no worse. But there’s no reason to be talking worst case scenarios already. Edited November 7, 2022 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 My guess based on what the docs have said/speculated is somewhere between 1-4 games missed. It is ironic that his injury happens in the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 All of a sudden my bets for the Bills to win the division and the SB, and betting the “over” for Allen’s passing TD’s… are very much up in the air. 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: So in other words half this board is going to get their wish and see what life is like without Josh Allen. Here’s a hint you’re going to miss him…..alot who wants to see what it’s like without Josh. People critiquing his play lately are not saying they want him gone. We are about to see how badly Bean has handles the OL situation if JA is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Love Michael Robinson on the Bills show with Tasker and Brownie. Recommend watching todays show. Mike was commenting/ critical about ; our turnovers , we rank 3 rd in the nfl. Can’t continue and be successful. ( 15 t/ o in 8 games). Our identity as a throwing offense is responsible for more turnovers). Still , Josh knows he can’t throw these ints. tackling is bad , we had a bad day , players don’t get enough practice time now Dion Dawkins had a bad day , obvious jets picked on him. Jets really went after him in pass pro and Dawkins had a really bad day. He would admit that. shakir ( only had 15 snaps).slot needs more production and he needs more snaps. guys in locker room need to understand they are “the hunted” now and they need to know they will face more intensity than prior seasons. Need to accept that mindset and step up to it weekly. Guys in the locker room need to get used to this type of stress. thought the colts hiring Saturday was a joke , like Saturday night live, and it’s obvious they don’t plan on winning any more games this year! ( pretty funny) we are a passing team but we have to develop a legit running threat for situational football. Singletary needs more than 24 yards. We need to run more effectively. milanos absence on d was really evident. Obvious he needs to get and stay healthy. should have gotten more from gabe davis. He did drop that last pass right in his chest and we need more from him. Gabe admitted he dropped that pass. Mike said that last pass was the BEST PASS OF THE YEAR ! ( hearing that makes me feel worse niw that we lost and we shouldn’t have) Diggs is Josh’s current safety blanket and makes himself available to Josh. Great chemistry. leaders , all pros , are hurt. Hyde, white, Milano , poyer, were all gone. These are THE guys! Need a conscious effort on tackling during the week and game. All great teams have one of these days. It’s going to happen. We are missing all pro players. it’s vital we recover , turn the page , but it’s vital the playoffs come thru high mark. Great guy with good analysis and credibility as a prior good player. Check it out on YouTube if you get a chance! Edited November 7, 2022 by DrPJax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 If he can play 60% and it’s just a pain management thing, I hope he plays. Because we can’t afford to keep losing games and we are in big trouble without him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Mango said: Entire franchises ride on the backs of QB's. I wouldn't let Allen anywhere near a football field if I thought it would take away from the next 10 years of my franchise. I know the Super Bowl is palpable but at 6-2 we have some leeway to at least sit Allen for a few weeks and come back a bit better and safer long term. Our two loses to two decent Miami and Jets teams absolutely blows. I think it's time people start revising their expectations of Josh Allen being an elite QB for "the next 10 years". No QB that has taken a beating anything close to Allen has been elite past their year 8 season.........this is year 5 for him. Maybe he defies the odds and makes it another 10 years as a top 5 QB but this also might be his best shot at a SB..........it's by no means a given that a long career of All Pro level football remains ahead. 1 3 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: So in other words half this board is going to get their wish and see what life is like without Josh Allen. Here’s a hint you’re going to miss him…..alot half this board? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If he can play 60% and it’s just a pain management thing, I hope he plays. Because we can’t afford to keep losing games and we are in big trouble without him Shut him down until he’s healthy. We can’t afford anymore damage to his elbow and potentially risk Tommy John and jeopardize his career. This year doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: I think it's time people start revising their expectations of Josh Allen being an elite QB for "the next 10 years". No QB that has taken a beating anything close to Allen has been elite past their year 8 season.........this is year 5 for him. Maybe he defies the odds and makes it another 10 years as a top 5 QB but this also might be his best shot at a SB..........it's by no means a given that a long career of All Pro level football remains ahead. I agree. I know the talent level between them is not the same, but look how quickly Newton fell off the map after playing superman for 4-5 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Please sit Josh Allen this week. Please show the naysayers what this team can do without him in the lineup. Please do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: I think it's time people start revising their expectations of Josh Allen being an elite QB for "the next 10 years". No QB that has taken a beating anything close to Allen has been elite past their year 8 season.........this is year 5 for him. Maybe he defies the odds and makes it another 10 years as a top 5 QB but this also might be his best shot at a SB..........it's by no means a given that a long career of All Pro level football remains ahead. Bean needs to fix the OL, and get a running game beyond JA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: If he can play 60% and it’s just a pain management thing, I hope he plays. Because we can’t afford to keep losing games and we are in big trouble without him No we're not. Case Keenum is more than capable of winning games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I’d much rather write this year off and get him the protection and weapons he deserves. No more battering ram Allen. I want him around for another 10 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: Bean needs to fix the OL, and get a running game beyond JA NO. Not as long as there are CB, DL and RB to be drafted on Day 1 and Day 2. Edited November 7, 2022 by LabattBlue 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: I’d much rather write this year off and get him the protection and weapons he deserves. No more battering ram Allen. I want him around for another 10 years. No. No, no, no 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: NO. Not as long as there are CB, DL and RB to be drafted on Day 1 and Day 2. including practice squad level DL over draft’s top rated center/guard. !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I think Josh Allen will be fine it is just precautionary to see what damage is done and if he can play with the injury without doing further damage to the injury or if the Bills have to shut him down for a few weeks. I think what you might see is less pass plays protecting Josh Allen elbow. Josh Allen has other assets like running the football he will play unless there is significant damage but I am not a doctor Bill Belichick day to day in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Admit it…some of you want to re-create the Minneapolis Miracle against the Vikes with Keenum and Diggs 🤔 Edited November 7, 2022 by YoloinOhio 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, RiotAct said: No. No, no, no If it’s shown that he has any damage to his UCL, yes. He would be out 4 weeks and back for the playoffs. If we make the playoffs let him play, if we don’t, pack it in. I want Allen around for many years to come. This is Beanes fault for not protecting Allen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: No we're not. Case Keenum is more than capable of winning games. We can’t run the ball. Teams are going to just completely take Diggs away. We will get suffocated without Allen. This isn’t a team with an above avg running game that you can lean on. We have an elite playmaker at QB that opens everything up. The Vikings will probably kill us is Keanum plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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