Jim Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Hey so I don't post much on here, cuz I don't want to add nonsense where none is needed, but I noticed that we've never really gotten any kind of info on Crowder besides the fact that he is on injured reserve. Has anybody heard anything? I know he didn't get a ton of a chance to show what he could do this season, and as of his injury didn't seem to establish a major rapport with Josh, but he was sure-handed as a returner and it couldn't hurt to have another veteran receiver. So what's the deal? Should we assume his career as a Bill is done, or maybe do we get him back late season? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 He's only been out 3 weeks I think, I don't think you can count the bye for IR, so still one more before he can come off IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Did he have a broken leg bone? Or was it an ankle issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) We haven't heard when he'll return. His ankle was actually broken (October 3rd reported) and that's killer for a guy who has to cut. Wouldn't be surprised if it's another 2 - 3 weeks at least. Depends on how serious the break is, of course. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/03/jamison-crowder-broke-his-ankle-sunday/ Edited November 2, 2022 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 He fractured his left ankle so it required surgery and is out indefinitely is the only news we got. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Ankle fracture and surgery feels like season ending for a slot WR predicated on crisp route running and hard cuts into open spaces. Best case scenario he might be available for the post season and even that feels optimistic. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, UConn James said: Did he have a broken leg bone? Or was it an ankle issue? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-jamison-crowder-suffers-broken-ankle-in-win-vs-ravens-will-likely-be-placed-on-injured-reserve/ Broken ankle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 41 minutes ago, Jim said: Hey so I don't post much on here, cuz I don't want to add nonsense where none is needed, but I noticed that we've never really gotten any kind of info on Crowder besides the fact that he is on injured reserve. Has anybody heard anything? I know he didn't get a ton of a chance to show what he could do this season, and as of his injury didn't seem to establish a major rapport with Josh, but he was sure-handed as a returner and it couldn't hurt to have another veteran receiver. So what's the deal? Should we assume his career as a Bill is done, or maybe do we get him back late season? Unless they re-sign him, I think his career as a Bill is done. Dr Kyle Trimble (Banged Up Bills) is usually a pretty good source. He wrote on the injury after it happened: Quote He likely suffered a high-ankle sprain with fracture/dislocation. This is the result of the foot being pushed up and getting twisted outward for the high-ankle mechanism. When the foot gets twisted out, the foot complex pushes on the lateral malleolus, and with another force pinning the fibula from above such as the tackle, the bone breaks. This commonly leads to dislocation in the ankle complex as well. Quote On average, NFL players who have suffered a distal fibula fracture (broken ankle) missed a total of 123.8 days (4 months). Even if he suffered an isolated fibula fracture without any associated damage that required surgery, he would miss 117.1 days (3.8 months). 90 percent of players who suffer this injury return to play the following season. The four-month mark from his surgery date would be the divisional playoffs. Quote In the best-case scenario, I would consider a return similar to what former Alabama and now Dolphins WR Jaylen Waddle went through in 2020, returning in 11 weeks to play in the National Championship game. Even then, he wasn’t much of a factor and was visibly limited in his abilities. Unfortunately, Crowder is nowhere near as talented as Waddle......Taking this all into account, his season is effectively over. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Probably a main driver to pick up Hines. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 He was in the video where Mckenzie was hiding as a plant and was using a cart to get around. Don't think he is anywhere close to playing. I've always liked Crowder, thought hed be a good guy to have down the stretch 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I expected him to fit better in this offense. I was a fan of his previous work. Definitely expected injuries with him but it’s sad it was a longer injury. Unless there are more injuries to the receiver group and he rushes to get back I don’t think he’ll play for buffalo again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Jim said: Hey so I don't post much on here, cuz I don't want to add nonsense where none is needed, but I noticed that we've never really gotten any kind of info on Crowder besides the fact that he is on injured reserve. Has anybody heard anything? I know he didn't get a ton of a chance to show what he could do this season, and as of his injury didn't seem to establish a major rapport with Josh, but he was sure-handed as a returner and it couldn't hurt to have another veteran receiver. So what's the deal? Should we assume his career as a Bill is done, or maybe do we get him back late season? Broken ankle - anywhere from probably 10 at the low end to season ending. Depends how bad everything was, but we probably won't hear anything for another 4-6 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Beck Water said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-jamison-crowder-suffers-broken-ankle-in-win-vs-ravens-will-likely-be-placed-on-injured-reserve/ Broken ankle. Depends on the bone, where the fracture is on it... is it displaced... surgery usually means screws inserted to keep it from displacing... ? will they remove screws and is there any ligament damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 He's done with Buffalo. We have McNugget, Shakir, and are still in the running for OBJ (along with like 5 other teams it seems). Either way, with the injury and how the roster is right now I can't imagine him ever coming off of IR this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 He will get his ring and be long forgotten afterwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 INteresting question. The team just cut Hodgins, so it appears that Kumerow will continue to be active barring injury. So Stef, Gabe, McK, Tupac, Kumerow will be the starting 5 going forward. Somehow Tanner Gentry is back as well, which I missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I don’t subscribe to the Athletic, but apparently Jamison Crowder is targeting a potential late December return: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/12701/jamison-crowder 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Crowder is valuable, Stevenson could be the new McKenzie jet sweep guy along with Hines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 He was pretty ineffective even when healthy. I think keeping Hodgins would have been the better choice in retrospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I don’t subscribe to the Athletic, but apparently Jamison Crowder is targeting a potential late December return: https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/12701/jamison-crowder Here's a snippet about Crowder from the Athletic Article on this weeks game: Quote Crowder’s injury was actually a broken fibula at the bottom, which impacted some additional ligaments on the inside. Crowder had surgery on the injury to put in a plate, which the surgeon classified as a clean break. And because it was a clean break rather than a compound fracture or something more severe, it’s created some optimism for Crowder to return this season. “They said it wasn’t nothing too crazy, too complicated,” Crowder told The Athletic. “Obviously, you don’t want to get injured, just thankful it wasn’t the worst of the worst. There’s still a chance I can potentially get back.” Crowder began walking again a little under a month ago. Most recently, he has been running in the pool on the underwater treadmill for the last two weeks, preventing full body weight from going on the surgically repaired ankle. The next thing for the receiver is to graduate to an anti-gravity treadmill, intending to get back on the field to start jogging in “maybe like, two weeks.” As for a return to action, it would be late in the regular season, but Crowder has a target in mind. “Around like that late December timeframe. That’s the goal for me,” he said. “It was something that the surgeon, they said there was a chance. It’s just all about how I’m feeling at that point and how well the rehab has gone. Right now my focus is to go day by day, trying to get better, and obviously try to get the strength and everything back, so, just see when we get to that time period, just see how it’s going.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Well my Jameson Chowder returned last night unexpectedly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 5:25 AM, Captain Hindsight said: He was in the video where Mckenzie was hiding as a plant and was using a cart to get around. Don't think he is anywhere close to playing. I've always liked Crowder, thought hed be a good guy to have down the stretch One of the more consistent players on a bad Jets team. Gave us fits and I thought was a great replacement for Beasley. Was a another loss to injury this year that stung. Definitely impacted the offense and our ability to attack zones in front of the sticks when he went down. Reading zone and running the right route to find the soft spots is not quite McKenzie's forte and Shakir is still green. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 he was back at practice today apparently, working off to the side with trainers. A positive step. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 9:54 PM, IronMaidenBills said: Well my Jameson Chowder returned last night unexpectedly. First Tre White dogging it, luxuriating in his mountain of hundred dollar bills, now Jamison Crowder! Seriously, I like Crowder. I think signing him was a good idea, and an experienced slot receiver is something we really need. Fingers crossed that he gets back for the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, RiotAct said: he was back at practice today apparently, working off to the side with trainers. A positive step. Crowder will be huge if we can get him back for the playoffs. Super underrated pickup this offseason 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I’m at the point with the slot guys just give Cole a call I know he’ll get open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: I’m at the point with the slot guys just give Cole a call I know he’ll get open Why are fans in desperation mood whenever we’re winning our games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, John from Riverside said: Why are fans in desperation mood whenever we’re winning our games? Because we have a hole the size of Rhode Island at slot…in the Jets game Josh didn’t even attempt a pass between the hash marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 11:33 AM, Freddie's Dead said: INteresting question. The team just cut Hodgins, so it appears that Kumerow will continue to be active barring injury. So Stef, Gabe, McK, Tupac, Kumerow will be the starting 5 going forward. Somehow Tanner Gentry is back as well, which I missed. Anyone catch what Hodgins is doing in New Jersey? I don't know why this team keeps Kumerow around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Because we have a hole the size of Rhode Island at slot…in the Jets game Josh didn’t even attempt a pass between the hash marks. The bills are nine and three let that sink in a little bit and stop acting like the girl that never gets asked to prom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: The bills are nine and three let that sink in a little bit and stop acting like the girl that never gets asked to prom I’ll leave the never getting asked to the prom stuff to you since you seem to be some kind of expert on such things and just let the guy who runs nfl films Greg Cosell who agrees with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Anyone catch what Hodgins is doing in New Jersey? I don't know why this team keeps Kumerow around... If you don’t know, you don’t pay attention. I’ll help: Special Teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I’ll leave the never getting asked to the prom stuff to you since you seem to be some kind of expert on such things and just let the guy who runs nfl films Greg Cosell who agrees with me Can I offer you a tissue? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Can I offer you a tissue? I think you need those to stuff your bra with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: I think you need those to stuff your bra with I seriously wonder what your posts would look like if this team lost two games in a row You’re living a fantasy of bringing back, retired players, in hopes of saving a nine and three team it is beyond pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, John from Riverside said: I seriously wonder what your posts would look like if this team lost two games in a row You’re living a fantasy of bringing back, retired players, in hopes of saving a nine and three team it is beyond pathetic They did lose two games in a row and in one of those games Josh was so scared his guys would drop it he didn’t even bother attempting throwing in the middle of the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: They did lose two games in a row and in one of those games Josh was so scared his guys would drop it he didn’t even bother attempting throwing in the middle of the field Were you crying this much when we had the two games lost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 So there is a chance he comes back. I read all the TBD doctors posting in this thread that he was done for the year. They were so certain! It's almost as if you need both a medical license AND specific knowledge of the particular patient and the injury / surgery in order to actually speak intelligently about a player's potential return... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, MJS said: So there is a chance he comes back. I read all the TBD doctors posting in this thread that he was done for the year. They were so certain! It's almost as if you need both a medical license AND specific knowledge of the particular patient and the injury / surgery in order to actually speak intelligently about a player's potential return... It would definitely help the situation if he was able to come back for the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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