tomur67 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Are there any glaring weaknesses that need to be addressed for the Bills to make the run for the Super Bowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 OBJ time baby 3 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) Yes, they are good enough. Will they pull it off? Time will tell. . Edited October 27, 2022 by Augie 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Zach Ertz enough said 1 2 1 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 That needs to be addressed, not really, biggest weakness is still O-line probably. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Here me out. Chrischen McCafrey. Mach the 49ers offer and then double it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) If I am the Bills, I have my eyes on two players and would honestly be trying to get them both... Trade for Hunt and then sign OBJ. I am a big believer in Devin, but Hunt is a top 5 RB as a full time starter. He is a true 3 down RB who is a great runner and receiver but can also pickup tough yards between the tackles. Him as the lead and Devin rotating in would an excellent 1-2 punch. OBJ is depth and insurance and even if not full speed, is at least better than McKenzie or Kumerow. I would bring both in because both help our football team, but more importantly, we would also be keeping them from a team we might face in the playoffs or Super Bowl. But let me be clear...and I am supremely confident in our team as is. I do not think we MUST make these moves, or any moves. This is more about how both these trades makes sense in both helping our roster be even better and prevents competitors for the SB this year from getting better. Edited October 27, 2022 by Alphadawg7 4 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Zach Ertz enough said They still have Skelton? Should try for a package deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 We don't need new players. We have stadium renderings now. 3 7 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 With 1.6 million in cap space,how much can they do? And just as important, what draft capital would Beane give up? 9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: If I am the Bills, I have my eyes on two players and would honestly be trying to get them both... Trade for Hunt and then sign OBJ. I am a big believer in Devin, but Hunt is a top 5 RB as a full time starter. He is a true 3 down RB who is a great runner and receiver but can also pickup tough yards between the tackles. Him as the lead and Devin rotating in would an excellent 1-2 punch. OBJ is depth and insurance and even if not full speed, is at least better than McKenzie or Kumerow. I would bring both in because both help our football team, but more importantly, we would also be keeping them from a team we might face in the playoffs or Super Bowl. But let me be clear...and I am supremely confident in our team as is. I do not think we MUST make these moves, or any moves. This is more about how both these trades makes sense in both helping our roster be even better and prevents competitors for the SB this year from getting better. How will you pay for these two with about 1.6 million cap space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: We don't need new players. We have stadium renderings now. A rendering of an OG would be a nice accompaniment. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 They could improve at RG, LG, and RT. But at what cost? Would I give a No1 for Quenton Nelson? Yes in a heart beat. I'm not sure there is another guard that would be that much better than what we have. I really don't understand the OBJ talk. At best he would be a big body possession receiver. Who wants or needs that? Beane made the moves in the off-season and White is coming back. This is our team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just now, Herb Nightly said: With 1.6 million in cap space,how much can they do? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Augie said: A rendering of an OG would be a nice accompaniment. The renderings had 3 buffalo statues outside the stadium. I think we can expect to plug them in along the line soon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: With 1.6 million in cap space,how much can they do? And just as important, what draft capital would Beane give up? How will you pay for these two with about 1.6 million cap space? We can easily free up enough cap space to fit both. Hunt wont cost much and we can do an incentive based deal with OBJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: They could improve at RG, LG, and RT. But at what cost? Would I give a No1 for Quenton Nelson? Yes in a heart beat. I'm not sure there is another guard that would be that much better than what we have. I really don't understand the OBJ talk. At best he would be a big body possession receiver. Who wants or needs that? Beane made the moves in the off-season and White is coming back. This is our team. Almost every team is in need of upgrades along the offensive line. The teams that have good offensive lineman aren't trading them away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, tomur67 said: Are there any glaring weaknesses that need to be addressed for the Bills to make the run for the Super Bowl? I don't think there are glaring weaknesses at present. The problem is always will something arise later on in the season, when we can't address it by trade. I think there are places we could improve. It was notable to me at the Halloween party, Ike Boettger was still using a crutch. OL would be my top ask. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Almost every team is in need of upgrades along the offensive line. The teams that have good offensive lineman aren't trading them away I agree, and that's why I said "at what cost"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said: I agree, and that's why I said "at what cost"? Yeah, I think they certainly can makes a move or two at the skill positions, but I think we are going to have to wait until the offseason to address the Oline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I don’t think they have to make a move. Another weapon is a bonus but they have the leverage of not having to force something. If there’s a good deal to be made I’m confident Beane will explore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Bills aren’t good enough to stand pat, in particular, lots of concern about OL. But it takes the right trade partner, player, and contract…and good timing. They may ultimately HAVE to stand pat due to the market which is what I expect. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Notice that next year JA17's base salary goes from 4.1MM to 27.5MM, which more than gobbles up the $17mm expected cap increase, so anyone we pick up is likely a rest of the season rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Airseven said: Bills aren’t good enough to stand pat, in particular, lots of concern about OL. But it takes the right trade partner, player, and contract…and good timing. They may ultimately HAVE to stand pat due to the market which is what I expect. Yes they are. They are good enough to win the SB this year with the personnel they have. It is pretty much why they are the favorites... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Yes Pat… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Right now the media is talking about all sorts of stuff - DE Josh Allen, Kareem Hunt, Chase Claypool. I think Odell Beckham might be the best move because of the cap, he's a rental, and there is no assets to give. As soon as the report came out that the Steelers view McCaffrey's deal as the starter template for any Claypool trade, my opinion is I'm out on that. Hunt, if he was a late-round pick and you could fit him, then I think he could be good on this team. And DE Josh Allen? What are the Jags going to want for him, and he joins the rotation probably behind Miller and Rousseau. Feels redundant. I'm wondering if the Bills don't try something at Safety to replace Hyde, or if 65.5 Damar Hamlin on PFF is "good enough". I also agree with other posters, a quality offensive lineman could really be used as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Notice that next year JA17's base salary goes from 4.1MM to 27.5MM, which more than gobbles up the $17mm expected cap increase, so anyone we pick up is likely a rest of the season rental. Base salary will be restructured. We’ll see a Allen extension this offseason creating tens of millions in cap space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I'd be down with some quality OL and WR depth. Better late than never. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Ok, so two caveats upfront: 1. I believe this present team currently can win the SB. 2. I don't want Beane make a move so for the sake of it because other contenders are. Having said that I would like to see us be a bit aggressive and make a move. Especially at RB, which frankly is a weakness, even though Devin is a warrior. Would absolutely love Jacob's at the right price. Also would not mind getting a safety for depth. Or even a WR but I'd wait and take my chances with renting OBJ. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Just now, JMM said: Ok, so two caveats upfront: 1. I believe this present team currently can win the SB. 2. I don't want Beane make a move so for the sake of it because other contenders are. Having said that I would like to see us be a bit aggressive and make a move. Especially at RB, which frankly is a weakness, even though Devin is a warrior. Would absolutely love Jacob's at the right price. Also would not mind getting a safety for depth. Or even a WR but I'd wait and take my chances with renting OBJ. Thoughts? Caveat 3: there’s already a thread on this. 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Base salary will be restructured. We’ll see a Allen extension this offseason creating tens of millions in cap space. There is zero need for an extension. Allen will restructure what is needed from his $27M base salary. The Allen contract is already set up perfect for these scenarios. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: There is zero need for an extension. Allen will restructure what is needed from his $27M base salary. The Allen contract is already set up perfect for these scenarios. He will but why not add years on and lower the cap hit even more? Allen isn’t going anywhere for 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Notice that next year JA17's base salary goes from 4.1MM to 27.5MM, which more than gobbles up the $17mm expected cap increase, so anyone we pick up is likely a rest of the season rental. What about the 16mil in dead cap this year that won’t be there next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: What about the 16mil in dead cap this year that won’t be there next year? We're always going to have dead cap space - it's the nature of the beast. $16M is probably league average (says me without doing any research) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He will but why not add years on and lower the cap hit even more? Allen isn’t going anywhere for 10 years. His current 6-year extension doesn't even start until next year. Between his base salary ($27.5M) and his Option Bonus ($8,4M) they could cut his cap hit from $39M to $10M if they wanted to. Beane needs a lot of restructure money next year, but it won't all come from Allen. There are plenty of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnychemo Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) Buffalo's version of that roster move is Tre White's return. Edited October 27, 2022 by johnnychemo 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, mushypeaches said: We're always going to have dead cap space - it's the nature of the beast. $16M is probably league average (says me without doing any research) The norm is more than 16. The way things are looking Beane will be under that next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Notice that next year JA17's base salary goes from 4.1MM to 27.5MM, which more than gobbles up the $17mm expected cap increase, so anyone we pick up is likely a rest of the season rental. Which shows how valuable draft picks are. Beane loves his draft picks, and knows how much more valuable they are when you are up against the cap 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Oh..didn't see it on the front page. Never mind...😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: His current 6-year extension doesn't even start until next year. Between his base salary ($27.5M) and his Option Bonus ($8,4M) they could cut his cap hit from $39M to $10M if they wanted to. Beane needs a lot of restructure money next year, but it won't all come from Allen. There are plenty of options. I know the details but it’s going to happen at some point. It really doesn’t matter if it’s next year or 3 years from now, he’ll get an extension to create even more room. They don’t need to do it next year. 1 minute ago, Pete said: Which shows how valuable draft picks are. Beane loves his draft picks, and knows how much more valuable they are when you are up against the cap Draft picks are also unpredictable. Trading them away for rentals probably isn’t smart, depends what you’re getting. But doing something where you can trade away draft picks for a player you know will start on your roster is smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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