scuba guy Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Be thing knowone is talking about is that Josh was in the pocket and Jones hit him low below the knees which again is a flag and could have cost us the season if Josh was injured. Yikes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, The Wiz said: I expect a nicely worded letter to be sent to the Bills organization "hey, sorry we missed that call. My bad. Sincerely, NFL" That catch by Kelvin Benjamin that we ruled INC? It was really a TD. Our bad. That TD in Houston that we called a touchback? It was really a TD. Our bad. That crackback block in Houston that we called on Cody Ford? That was really legal and you should have won that playoff game. Our bad. That contract that Indy gave Wolford? We're gonna let them do it, but that kind of contract will be illegal from now on. Our bad. We have more apology letters from the NFL than any other team in NFL history. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 What I liked about Allen’s response is to point it out to the blind Ref IMMEDIATELY! And to show, right out their in the open for all to see, exactly what that dirty move was! So nobody… NOT BILLS FANS NOT CHIEFS FANS NOT ANY FAN NOT THE REF NOT THE NFL was uncertain about what he was disputing! Even multiple fans on the Chiefs Board, commented that Jones got away with a dirty hack job! Clearly, Refs are substandard. I’m not going to rehash my decades old comment about firing them all and rehiring Div 1 ex football players, with high IQs and 20-20 vision, etc. But surely, as a minimum, we are here now: “ At some point, the NFL is seriously going to need a Sky Judge: Someone to radio down and call that tripping penalty — or to nullify a roughing the passer that isn’t.” 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: That catch by Kelvin Benjamin that we ruled INC? It was really a TD. Our bad. That TD in Houston that we called a touchback? It was really a TD. Our bad. That crackback block in Houston that we called on Cody Ford? That was really legal and you should have won that playoff game. Our bad. That contract that Indy gave Wolford? We're gonna let them do it, but that kind of contract will be illegal from now on. Our bad. We have more apology letters from the NFL than any other team in NFL history. I vaguely remember that the Bills received 2 letters, 2 games in a row one year. One was against the raiders where we scored on 4th and goal from the 1 and they called it stopped. I can't remember what the other game was though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Watch the replay again. Jones fully extends his leg in Josh's direction, as the photo in @ExiledInIllinois's post shows. It was clearly deliberate and the incompetent reffing crew we had today let it go. An egregiously bad non-call. That photo caught him red-handed, noway does a person shift his weight that way... Anyway, doesn't have to be deliberate to be a penalty even though it was very, VERY much a deliberately done act of tripping! This is the same scum bag that the refs tagged on the Brady phantom thing erroneously... The NFL must be turning into the NHL. The Refs were probably told to look the other way with him. Yeah! But NOT on a play like this!😏 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, BananaB said: Lol. The ref is the only person in the stadium who could of taken a better picture then that, and we have evidence to prove it’ 😆He's like the "Keep on Truckin'" guy: We wouldn't be laughing IF thar cost the Bills the game!🤢 This one's for @Mike in Horseheadsand my wife that told me stop, calm down about the Refs: "Bills won despite the Refs, and the fix!" 😉😜😘 (Okay, 1/2 joking there... BUT the vitriol was flowing outta my mouth at the TV yesterday!) 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Beast said: Back in the day he’s get a nice chop block at the knee, from a side angle, the next snap he was on the field. That is the honest-to-God's-truth. It's a brutally tough game now, but nothing like what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 You know what the laughable thing is? The Ref got an the microphone and explicitly announced: "There was no tripping on this play." OUCH! 😆🤣😂 Josh, were you tripped? 😳 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: There was something about the ref's body language when he was telling Josh to give him the ball that irks me, like he had a bone to pick with him, thus the non-call. Like a nerdy hall-monitor being given power over the jock. I mean, if you think about the scrutiny that RTP is under right now and the fact that it happened like 3 feet from that ref...is it really possible that he missed what 100% of people watching in real time saw? Well, Josh was screaming in his face, so it would make sense if his body language was a little off. Really horrible missed call, though. And it came in a big situation. They also called some really weak holds and PI's throughout the game. I thought there were a couple late hits on Allen that weren't called. Josh used to get those calls a lot, but he doesn't seem to get those as much any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 hours ago, UConn James said: Make EVERYTHING reviewable. they will still screw it up and games will last 6 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Southern bills said: The way I see it is, yes refs blow calls each week, there were a few in this game. With the way roughing the passer has been called this year, there is no way the ref should have missed that call. The good news is the team did not lose its composure and was able to finish the game. I saw an article that said the Rams are planning to propose roughing the passer being able to be challenged. It would be nice to also be able to challenge missed calls. Of course if the refs treat it the same way they did passing interference any rule change would be pointless anyway. Yup. You just hope that blown calls don’t determine the outcome. There’s always some call made or not made that fans can complain about. Funny how you don’t see fans of the winners gripe that often - present thread excepted. There was an obvious hold by the Bills after the trip and I said to my daughter’s bf who’d been complaining about the trip, “If the Bills lose, our fans will complain about the trip not getting called. If the Chiefs lose, their fans will complain about that hold or something other call or non call. It’s just how things are.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Malazan said: Move on Or should we say keep on truckin'! 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 This is 100% an obvious and egregious penalty in slow-mo replay, but I have to admit.... I did not realize this was a trip when it happened in real time. I can understand how the ref missed it. Missed penalties really need to be included in the "eye in the sky" review process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 100% chance Jones gets fined for this. Probably no other consequences for him or ref though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) I didn't notice this before! Watch the replay in this video, and keep your eyes on Jones the entire time. Follow him as he runs away from Allen, after the trip, with Allen and the ref behind Jones. As Jones is getting close to the edge of the screen, he throws his arms up, not in celebration of his play, but with that guilty way of saying "I didn't do anything; it wasn't me!" I think he heard the whistle and somehow interpreted it to mean "penalty." So he went all defensive, because he knows he's guilty. I never noticed that! Without this evidence it's obvious he intentionally tripped Josh, but this destroys any defense that guy has! Edited October 17, 2022 by Nextmanup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 This really pissed me off. Two refs right there looking at the play from opposite sides. Neither see it. Jones gets credit for a HUGE 3rd sack after getting schooled and cheated. I think it’s plays like this where the nfl needs to add an official in the booth that can throw flags on blatant offenses. But I realize that it will never happen due to “where do you draw the line on what that official could flag?” and “what signifies a blatant offense?” There will be missed calls- it just sucks when it’s so blatant especially on a deciding down. That was a HUGE successful cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I do love the river dance. Discuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 If not for that phantom call on Kelce, I'd be more upset. But it felt like it more or less evened out. Though the trip was a lot more visible to the ref who was RIGHT THERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 The refs were very consistent yesterday... Consistently bad, for and against both teams. They missed so many obvious penalties and called just as much ticky tack crap, it was a beautiful display of bad officiating. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Penalized? No, obviously not...no flag was thrown? Fined? Probably not...I don't think that's a fineable play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You know what the laughable thing is? The Ref got an the microphone and explicitly announced: "There was no tripping on this play." OUCH! 😆🤣😂 Josh, were you tripped? 😳 The refs were trippin'..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: This really pissed me off. Two refs right there looking at the play from opposite sides. Neither see it. Jones gets credit for a HUGE 3rd sack after getting schooled and cheated. I think it’s plays like this where the nfl needs to add an official in the booth that can throw flags on blatant offenses. But I realize that it will never happen due to “where do you draw the line on what that official could flag?” and “what signifies a blatant offense?” There will be missed calls- it just sucks when it’s so blatant especially on a deciding down. That was a HUGE successful cheat. It will piss you off even more to know they seen it then. You can see the ref in the back put his arms out to brace himself for impact and start backpeddling. No way he didnt see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 So now we know who put $80K on the Chiefs. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Southern bills said: The way I see it is, yes refs blow calls each week, there were a few in this game. With the way roughing the passer has been called this year, there is no way the ref should have missed that call. The good news is the team did not lose its composure and was able to finish the game. I saw an article that said the Rams are planning to propose roughing the passer being able to be challenged. It would be nice to also be able to challenge missed calls. Of course if the refs treat it the same way they did passing interference any rule change would be pointless anyway. Didn't the league do this for like 5 weeks a few years back with challenging DPI, and collectively the officials decided they weren't over turning a single one under any circumstances? (Think it was the Nikel Robey missed call that got Rams to SB) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I may have to rethink who I hate the most on the Chiefs. Before yesterday it was Kelce, but I think Jones may be that guy now. He's definitely become a goon and one of the dirtiest players in the league probably why he was flagged last week against the Raiders even though it was an iffy call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 The biggest issue I had in this game and others is what actually is D in particular DB holding? Seems like we got multiple calls in a row and 3rd and longs. Actually 3-1 first downs due to penalties. Just like the Phins game where we had multiple and they had none. Meanwhile, KC points to the soft call on Kelce (who pushes off all the time) .. and it was soft. Just consistency like a strike zone is critical for players to adjust to. They missed the trip, but just like Brady seems as KC gets the critical call when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: That catch by Kelvin Benjamin that we ruled INC? It was really a TD. Our bad. That TD in Houston that we called a touchback? It was really a TD. Our bad. That crackback block in Houston that we called on Cody Ford? That was really legal and you should have won that playoff game. Our bad. That contract that Indy gave Wolford? We're gonna let them do it, but that kind of contract will be illegal from now on. Our bad. We have more apology letters from the NFL than any other team in NFL history. Had no clue what the Wolford thing was! I woulda been 5 so makes sense but wow, what a grimy deal. Especially by an (at that time) in division team. Found an article on it, with quote from Irsay... not that I ever liked the guy, but I sure as hell don't like him anymore than I did. 9 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: What I liked about Allen’s response is to point it out to the blind Ref IMMEDIATELY! And to show, right out their in the open for all to see, exactly what that dirty move was! So nobody… NOT BILLS FANS NOT CHIEFS FANS NOT ANY FAN NOT THE REF NOT THE NFL was uncertain about what he was disputing! Even multiple fans on the Chiefs Board, commented that Jones got away with a dirty hack job! Clearly, Refs are substandard. I’m not going to rehash my decades old comment about firing them all and rehiring Div 1 ex football players, with high IQs and 20-20 vision, etc. But surely, as a minimum, we are here now: “ At some point, the NFL is seriously going to need a Sky Judge: Someone to radio down and call that tripping penalty — or to nullify a roughing the passer that isn’t.” Sky judge is inevitable in my opinion. Too much BS going on, and at the same time, can be done much more quickly than standard procedure for challenges now. Let's hope they have the decency to make this guy a full time employee 🙄🙄🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: The counter to this argument is that he was held by us as well. All due respect, but that’s no counter argument at all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1962 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 My guess is that the NFL will consider it and decide that NE should get extra picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Football god's make up for these calls. And I almost think in full real time it was just a football move that became a trip. That doesn't mean it wasn't a penalty. Even unintendedly a penalty is a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 15 hours ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Is the McRib in season? It's coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Malazan said: Move on I hate complaining about officiating but with the phantom Roughing calls that are determining outcomes, a crew missing that flagrant tripping foul makes you wonder whether these officials are gunshy about getting criticized about QB calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I have never liked tripping as a penalty. I personally think it should be fair game. Most of the time when its called its incidental. That being said it IS a penalty...and the Jones instance was as bad an example of it as their could possibly be....literally right in front of multiple refs and us all...on a critical drive and down. I don't fine Jones...I suspend or admonish the refs. I'd also issue an apology to the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, RichRiderBills said: I have never liked tripping as a penalty. I personally think it should be fair game. Most of the time when its called its incidental. That being said it IS a penalty...and the Jones instance was as bad an example of it as their could possibly be....literally right in front of multiple refs and us all...on a critical drive and down. I don't fine Jones...I suspend or admonish the refs. I'd also issue an apology to the Bills. It's a penalty and always has been since the dawn of football because it's dangerous. Dangerous like clipping. Those two penalties have been on the books since the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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