All your juicy Odell Beckham gossip

[mrags]

21 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

What kind of player thinks he can join a new team, not be in a game shape, have zero chemistry with a new QB, and have not learned/practiced the offense at all and think he can make a difference in the playoffs?

 

He's trying to mask the fact he's not physically capable of playing right now, which means he's not really ready until next season.

A narcissistic a-hole?

 

with that said he’d still be an upgrade as a #2 or very least a #3 WR. If he is healthy enough and can play and wants to be here, and the FO wants him, for the right price they should. 

[Doc]

Buh bye Beckham.

[cablesabres68]

I wish he would have worded what he said a little different but he did also say if he was needed he could play but he doesn't see the point and I don't blame him coming off his 2nd acl tear ur being brought in to help win a super bowl this year along with having him for atheist 1 to 3 years more why would I want to go out there and put my body on the line for a team that will for sure make the playoffs when like he said he wants to get into a stable situation and come in at 6 am and leave at 6 pm and start his routine just cuz he isn't playing doesn't mean he isn't working out with the team or training or practicing just not playing in games 

[Dr. Who]

4 minutes ago, cablesabres68 said:

I wish he would have worded what he said a little different but he did also say if he was needed he could play but he doesn't see the point and I don't blame him coming off his 2nd acl tear ur being brought in to help win a super bowl this year along with having him for atheist 1 to 3 years more why would I want to go out there and put my body on the line for a team that will for sure make the playoffs when like he said he wants to get into a stable situation and come in at 6 am and leave at 6 pm and start his routine just cuz he isn't playing doesn't mean he isn't working out with the team or training or practicing just not playing in games 

Damn, this post is going to give a proofreader an epileptic fit.

[cablesabres68]

6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Damn, this post is going to give a proofreader an epileptic fit.

Really dude? I'm working I don't need an English teacher just trying to get my thoughts down

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

This is right up there with Alan Iverson's Practice quote.

[wppete]

56 minutes ago, balln said:

Is it obvious yet ? He’s not gonna play this year. Not ready. 

Yeah move on from this guy. Hopefully Crowder makes it back soon or get Beasley on the phone asap 

[mrags]

4 minutes ago, cablesabres68 said:

Really dude? I'm working I don't need an English teacher just trying to get my thoughts down

[AlfaBill]

Perfect fit for the following teams:

Dallas

Cleveland

 

 

[Turbo44]

Crowder back would be great to be honest 

[TheFunPolice]

I have always been a bit lukewarm to this, but the more I hear the more I agree with the Cowboys player.

 

I'm interested in the Superbowl not a circus. IF he can come in and contribute to THIS PLAYOFF PUSH then fine, but I have ZERO interest in signing him long term given his injury history with that knee. He'll be 31 next season having torn the same ACL twice. How effective will he be?

 

Instead, let's draft one of the seemingly endless pool of rookie WR every draft, have a guy who is 22 with fresh ACLs, and comes cheaply so that we can re-sign Poyer, who plays with his elbow being held together by duct tape. 

[bobobonators]

On 12/7/2022 at 9:02 AM, CEN-CAL17 said:

That’s not the question… question is “if he can play”, what attention does that draw from other teams? Especially if he can play.

 

Other teams don’t care much about Shakir. OBJ isn’t a rookie. 

Other teams won’t care about OBJ either. This exact time last year teams didn’t care about Amon-Ra St. Brown either. Until they were forced to care. 
 

My main overall point is that the likelihood of Shakir being able to produce at a higher level is likely higher than that of a 30yr+ old receiver who has 2 ACL tears in less than 2 yrs. 

Edited December 9, 2022 by bobobonators

[Warriorspikes51]

Maybe with a week of practice, John Brown can show he's able to still be impactful.

Hopefully Crowder can get back on the field in the next 4 weeks.

 

Also, would be in favor of Beasley 

 

2 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Other teams won’t care about OBJ either. This exact time last year teams didn’t care about Amon-Ra St. Brown either. Until they were forced to care. 
 

My main overall point is that the likelihood of Shakir being able to produce at a higher level is likely higher than that of a 30yr+ old receiver who has 2 ACL years in less than 2 yrs. 

Unfortunately, for whatever reasons....the Bills don't seem to care about Shakir.

Did the guy do something wrong and end up in the doghouse?

It makes no sense to me. I was very excited about him after his performance against the Steelers.  Since then, they just never throw to him 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Warriorspikes51

[Einstein's Dog]

18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

This is right up there with Alan Iverson's Practice quote.

Kind of the opposite though.  OBJ said he would go 6 to 6 practicing and being part of the team but wouldn't go into a game until playoffs.  Then he would be completely healthy when the games matter more.

 

It's load management.  The Defense is getting crushed with injuries, but the offense might go a different route.   A healthy and rested Smoke and OBJ down the home stretch.

[Donuts and Doritos]

Need Davis to step up & be more consistent. That's the answer @ WR2.

[Westside]

8 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

I have always been a bit lukewarm to this, but the more I hear the more I agree with the Cowboys player.

 

I'm interested in the Superbowl not a circus. IF he can come in and contribute to THIS PLAYOFF PUSH then fine, but I have ZERO interest in signing him long term given his injury history with that knee. He'll be 31 next season having torn the same ACL twice. How effective will he be?

 

Instead, let's draft one of the seemingly endless pool of rookie WR every draft, have a guy who is 22 with fresh ACLs, and comes cheaply so that we can re-sign Poyer, who plays with his elbow being held together by duct tape. 

I agree, pass on this clown. 

Just now, Donuts and Doritos said:

Need Davis to step up & be more consistent. That's the answer @ WR2.

I’m curious to see if Smoke has anything left?

[Gugny]

35 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Damn, this post is going to give a proofreader an epileptic fit.

 

28 minutes ago, cablesabres68 said:

Really dude? I'm working I don't need an English teacher just trying to get my thoughts down

 

Other than the lack of punctuation, I'm just trying to figure out who the atheist is.

[HappyDays]

I guess I'm now in the minority on this but I would still welcome OBJ here even if he doesn't contribute meaningfully until the playoffs. I'm just not all that comfortable with Gabe Davis as the automatic #2 WR. With Miller and Hyde both going down for the season and the other injuries that impact our defense seemingly every week, our offense is going to need to pick up the slack a bit. I'm not expecting OBJ to be a superstar here, but I think he can be a difference maker in games that matter. Sign me up for that.

[SCBills]

Unless Beane is trying to sign OBJ at a discount for next year(s), I think I’m pretty much at my end of the line re: OBJ after those comments. 
 

Im sure he could help us in the playoffs, IF he’s even healthy enough to do that.   However, I’m not sure I love putting Allen is the position where he’s throwing his first live action pass to OBJ in the WC or Div around.  
 

I always thought it made sense if he could ramp up against, say, Cinci and NE … but if he’s above that or incapable of that .. eh… not ideal. 
 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by SCBills

[rusty shackleford]

16 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

 

Other than the lack of punctuation, I'm just trying to figure out who the atheist is.

Did he mean antagonist?

Edited December 9, 2022 by rusty shackleford

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, DaggersEOD said:

Some people and their Hate-r-aid. 
 

We get it, you hate Beas. Dude is living rent free in your dome. Please move on. Or let him move out. 

Now Kyrie hate 🤣

 

Me thinks I’m detecting a trend 

Yeah not a fan of guys who put themselves before the team and are distractions.  For instance Diggs has had some diva moments before here but he has been nothing but a team guy since he has been here. 
 

OBJ loves attention. Kyrie thinks he’s smarter than everyone and some free thinker because he went to Duke for half of a semester. Ego is what makes these guys great but I don’t think anyone can’t look at both of their careers and think how much better they could have been if they were more team first guys. No questions their talent (though I think OBJ has fallen off considerably because of the injuries).

[YoloinOhio]

45 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

This is right up there with Alan Iverson's Practice quote.

 

[TheFunPolice]

29 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Maybe with a week of practice, John Brown can show he's able to still be impactful.

Hopefully Crowder can get back on the field in the next 4 weeks.

 

Also, would be in favor of Beasley 

 

Unfortunately, for whatever reasons....the Bills don't seem to care about Shakir.

Did the guy do something wrong and end up in the doghouse?

It makes no sense to me. I was very excited about him after his performance against the Steelers.  Since then, they just never throw to him 

 

Shakir has the burden of being one of this regime's draft picks. 

 

They seem to be allergic to actually playing their draft picks

[Einstein's Dog]

10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Unless Beane is trying to sign OBJ at a discount for next year(s), I think I’m pretty much at my end of the line re: OBJ after those comments. 
 

Im sure he could help us in the playoffs, IF he’s even healthy enough to do that.   However, I’m not sure I love putting Allen is the position where he’s throwing his first live action pass to OBJ in the WC or Div around.  
 

I always thought it made sense if he could ramp up against, say, Cinci and NE … but if he’s above that or incapable of that .. eh… not ideal. 
 

Don't want to lose you SC.  It may not be ideal.  But lets remember the positives:

     Great addition for the playoffs

     Would add difficulty to opposing DCs game plans

     Strengthens the 2023 WR core immensely

     Adds flexibility to Beane maneuvering - the possibility of moving G Davis for a 2nd

     Helps change offensive philosophy to a max scoring shoot out style- fun to watch

 

The possibility for all this at a reasonable Beaner price of say $8-10M.  I'm in.  And don't forget the circus dies dramatically after he signs- just like it did in LA.

[Since1981]

Tuafish + Hill = HUGE

17 + 14 = HUGE

17 + 14 + OJB = HUGER, maybe.

 

I trust Beane to make the right choice OBJ--health, skill, cost, timeframe. 

Can anyone imagine JA17 without 14 now?

That's what swinging for top quality WR's can do.

[FilthyBeast]

I really hope the ship has sailed in terms of the Bills singing this guy.

 

The diva WR thing just doesn't do it for me and still think he may never be the same guy again anyway which is why he's still on the street to begin with.

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Maybe with a week of practice, John Brown can show he's able to still be impactful.

Hopefully Crowder can get back on the field in the next 4 weeks.

 

Also, would be in favor of Beasley 

 

Unfortunately, for whatever reasons....the Bills don't seem to care about Shakir.

Did the guy do something wrong and end up in the doghouse?

It makes no sense to me. I was very excited about him after his performance against the Steelers.  Since then, they just never throw to him 

Might have to do with his 50% catch rate. Got to catch the ones that are thrown to you. Would love to see him more involved though and I THINK it might begin soon. Seems like Josh is looking more at the shorter routes now, so I hope Shakir gets more opportunities now. We will need it.

[racketmaster]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

I guess I'm now in the minority on this but I would still welcome OBJ here even if he doesn't contribute meaningfully until the playoffs. I'm just not all that comfortable with Gabe Davis as the automatic #2 WR. With Miller and Hyde both going down for the season and the other injuries that impact our defense seemingly every week, our offense is going to need to pick up the slack a bit. I'm not expecting OBJ to be a superstar here, but I think he can be a difference maker in games that matter. Sign me up for that.

Davis definitely needs to step up for our offense to get back to an elite level. I’m also not sure he can do it but I’m not comfortable with OBJ coming in with no regular season snaps and being thrown the ball in playoff games. It just does not seem like it would yield great results with very little timing and practice. Plus, is he even physically ready to play at a playoff level. I would almost rather have Beasley return in the slot just because of his knowledge of offense and experience with Josh. If not let’s just hope Shakir and McKenzie can do the job. I trust Beane will do the right thing whatever that may be. 

[ColoradoBills]

I'm caught up on this thread and seeing what OBJ's expected timeline for return is, nothing has changed with me.

I can't see signing any player until I see that he can work out to a satisfactory level.

 

If he expects to be ready for the playoffs, he should be able to work out a few weeks earlier.  So come back to town

and show us when that happens.  If he is too fragile to do that before the end of the month, he's not worth it for this year, IMO.

 

The ball has been in his court this whole time on his recovery, it's not the other way around.

[Warcodered]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'm not sure this isn't all just a reaction to all the negative spin of him not being able necessarily contribute much during the regular season. Honestly if it takes the rest of the regular season for him to get up to speed but then he's able to turn it on in the playoffs I really wouldn't care.

[cablesabres68]

5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

I'm caught up on this thread and seeing what OBJ's expected timeline for return is, nothing has changed with me.

I can't see signing any player until I see that he can work out to a satisfactory level.

 

If he expects to be ready for the playoffs, he should be able to work out a few weeks earlier.  So come back to town

and show us when that happens.  If he is too fragile to do that before the end of the month, he's not worth it for this year, IMO.

 

The ball has been in his court this whole time on his recovery, it's not the other way around.

Why workout so he can accidently mess up his knee before he's getting paid? I mean I personally am ok with listening to team doctors training staff etc... if everything were to check out I would sign him obviously try to get him on a team friendly deal not to many guarantees etc...

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, cablesabres68 said:

Why workout so he can accidently mess up his knee before he's getting paid? I mean I personally am ok with listening to team doctors training staff etc... if everything were to check out I would sign him obviously try to get him on a team friendly deal not to many guarantees etc...

 

He doesn't have to.  Same goes for the teams.  Do they have to sign him because he says he will be ready?  It's a "buyer beware" situation.

As to the contract terms, I see it the other way around.  The amount he wants goes down every day he can't perform.  How could it go up?

[cablesabres68]

15 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

He doesn't have to.  Same goes for the teams.  Do they have to sign him because he says he will be ready?  It's a "buyer beware" situation.

As to the contract terms, I see it the other way around.  The amount he wants goes down every day he can't perform.  How could it go up?

But that's the thing it's not just his word he had a physical if the deem him fit and in the right stage in recovery/rehab the bills have the luxury of waiting for him until the playoffs and on a smaller scale the cowboys do as well. The giants are done this weekend if they lose which most likely they will to the eagles. And I think if they can do an incentive laiden contract which pays him his 12 to 15 mil that doesn't hurt our cap and make the contract look bigger than it actual is then what's the harm? He blows out his knee in the playoffs or super bowl he only gets x salary etc... but to not want a 80 to 90% Beckham is just dumb. You do what you can to add everything you can to win at the end of the year and next year and the year after, the cap will take care of itself with beane watching it and knowing what he can and can't do.

[Gugny]

 Danny Boy Hustle Hard says OBJ "is not goin' to no Cowboys."

 

https://nypost.com/2022/12/08/odell-beckhams-driver-hes-signing-right-here-with-giants/

 

 

[John from Riverside]

6 minutes ago, cablesabres68 said:

But that's the thing it's not just his word he had a physical if the deem him fit and in the right stage in recovery/rehab the bills have the luxury of waiting for him until the playoffs and on a smaller scale the cowboys do as well. The giants are done this weekend if they lose which most likely they will to the eagles. And I think if they can do an incentive laiden contract which pays him his 12 to 15 mil that doesn't hurt our cap and make the contract look bigger than it actual is then what's the harm? He blows out his knee in the playoffs or super bowl he only gets x salary etc... but to not want a 80 to 90% Beckham is just dumb. You do what you can to add everything you can to win at the end of the year and next year and the year after, the cap will take care of itself with beane watching it and knowing what he can and can't do.

I’m just glad you’re not in charge of our teams money

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, cablesabres68 said:

But that's the thing it's not just his word he had a physical if the deem him fit and in the right stage in recovery/rehab the bills have the luxury of waiting for him until the playoffs and on a smaller scale the cowboys do as well. The giants are done this weekend if they lose which most likely they will to the eagles. And I think if they can do an incentive laiden contract which pays him his 12 to 15 mil that doesn't hurt our cap and make the contract look bigger than it actual is then what's the harm? He blows out his knee in the playoffs or super bowl he only gets x salary etc... but to not want a 80 to 90% Beckham is just dumb. You do what you can to add everything you can to win at the end of the year and next year and the year after, the cap will take care of itself with beane watching it and knowing what he can and can't do.

I highly doubt OBJ is willing to sign that contract.

As to a doctor's examination telling how well a player returning from an ACL will play, I don't know if that is possible.

You are speculating that OBJ will be somewhere between 80-90% with his play, but I see no evidence YET that he can.

I guess if you were a GM you'd do a deal, I on the other hand wouldn't until I seen he can play this year.

[cablesabres68]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

I highly doubt OBJ is willing to sign that contract.

As to a doctor's examination telling how well a player returning from an ACL will play, I don't know if that is possible.

You are speculating that OBJ will be somewhere between 80-90% with his play, but I see no evidence YET that he can.

I guess if you were a GM you'd do a deal, I on the other hand wouldn't until I seen he can play this year.

And that is perfectly fine everyone is allowed to have their own opinions on the subject and I respect yours but this offense needs a number 2/3 receiver. hey they don't get OBJ fine go try to get Beasley out of retirement and sign him for the playoffs knows the system etc... but they need that one more piece that allows get open underneath because teams right now are stopping the big plays against us with 2 deep safties and yes David has had trouble with drops this year but look at how open he was with that underneath guy.  In this offense it won't matter who the underneath guy is if you can get that piece because they are constantly moving guys around from outside to inside so one play it could be diggs in the slot and davis or OBJ on the outside it's all about creating mismatches

13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I’m just glad you’re not in charge of our teams money

Why because I would manipulate the cap and try to get the best players here for us just like BBB is doing? 

[TheBrownBear]

Welp, this moron is officially dead to me now.

[rusty shackleford]

This juicy gossip changed from orange to prune juice real quick.

[wppete]

36 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 Danny Boy Hustle Hard says OBJ "is not goin' to no Cowboys."

 

https://nypost.com/2022/12/08/odell-beckhams-driver-hes-signing-right-here-with-giants/

 

 

Wow! Where do he find this guy?!?!? Amazing!