In Summary Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Josh will take them to the deep end and drown them Sunday 🤣 Josh is gonna cork their blow holes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Prayers that this isn’t a career threatening injury 🙏🏾 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I saw this on Finheaven. Its just pure speculation and don’t know who this guy is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I saw this on Finheaven. Its just pure speculation and don’t know who this guy is. What has he been looking here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I saw this on Finheaven. Its just pure speculation and don’t know who this guy is. That guy is just playing the wishful thinking (he's a Fins fan) speculation game based on some other tweets he read. Nothing to see here. 21 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: 4. Jackson: encouraging to see him at practice, albeit just light jogging. Would guess he is not going on IR, hopeful he can be back next week or for Steelers (his hometown team) Great news on Jackson and about what I expected once we learned there wasn't any structural damage. Probably just a lot of neck soreness and he should be ready to roll next week. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Nothing new...quick recap: 1. Coach declared out (during 10:30am interview with Sal): Hyde, Dane, Phillips 2. Pre practice press conference, Coach said (paraphrasing): all others will be on the field in some capacity. He also said 2-3 players may be uncertain on status, even after today. So sounds like gametime decision for a few. 3. Poyer: Coach said his foot injury happened during Titans game, has been getting more info throughout this week. Coach made it sound like Jordan might be a gametime decision, perhaps not 100% even if he plays. 4. Milano: should be full go 5. Hyde/Jackson: Coach was asked if any concern longterm/IR with these guys, and he "didn't want to get into it". Jackson was then seen at practice (light stretching in red jersey- Matt Parrino twitter). My guess from all this: 1. Offense: should have all guys back, Davis, Morse, Knox 2. Defense: think Ed, Poyer and Settle will be gametime decisions. Hopefully all 3 can suit up 3. Hyde: mystery still, hopefully he's not a surprise IR tomorrow. Think they will make a decision (hence 2nd opinion) on IR before this game, to create the roster spot 4. Jackson: encouraging to see him at practice, albeit just light jogging. Would guess he is not going on IR, hopeful he can be back next week or for Steelers (his hometown team) THANKS! Great write up! Bummer about Hyde, and I am not talking about even this game. The moment he was seeking a 2nd opinion we knew that what ever news he got on his injury was not something he liked, meaning it probably meant some sort of sustained time missed, possibly even needed some sort of season ending surgery. I really hope it ends up being relatively short term, not only because he such a good player, but just because this team feels on the verge of something special, and he has been a big part of getting to this point for a long time now. I would be sick for him if something happened where he had to miss the rest of the season. I agree on all your guesses too, that seems to be pretty spot on based on what we know. I think Dane will return sometime between next week and the KC game, and probably against Balt or Pitt. I really hope Poyer can go, its gonna be tough being down our whole starting secondary plus Phillips up front who has been wreaking havoc this season. Speaking of Phillips, I am concerned about how long he might be out. To be ruled out this soon on a hamstring injury is pretty significant. That tells me its not a minor hammy issue, and these things can linger and take a while to heal. So, it could lead to Phillips being out several weeks, but lets hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Nothing new...quick recap: 1. Coach declared out (during 10:30am interview with Sal): Hyde, Dane, Phillips 2. Pre practice press conference, Coach said (paraphrasing): all others will be on the field in some capacity. He also said 2-3 players may be uncertain on status, even after today. So sounds like gametime decision for a few. 3. Poyer: Coach said his foot injury happened during Titans game, has been getting more info throughout this week. Coach made it sound like Jordan might be a gametime decision, perhaps not 100% even if he plays. 4. Milano: should be full go 5. Hyde/Jackson: Coach was asked if any concern longterm/IR with these guys, and he "didn't want to get into it". Jackson was then seen at practice (light stretching in red jersey- Matt Parrino twitter). My guess from all this: 1. Offense: should have all guys back, Davis, Morse, Knox 2. Defense: think Ed, Poyer and Settle will be gametime decisions. Hopefully all 3 can suit up 3. Hyde: mystery still, hopefully he's not a surprise IR tomorrow. Think they will make a decision (hence 2nd opinion) on IR before this game, to create the roster spot 4. Jackson: encouraging to see him at practice, albeit just light jogging. Would guess he is not going on IR, hopeful he can be back next week or for Steelers (his hometown team) Hyde was originally said to be "Day-to-Day" on Tues or Wed wasn't he? Him also texting Poyer that he's okay makes me hopeful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: That guy is just playing the wishful thinking (he's a Fins fan) speculation game based on some other tweets he read. More like ONE tweet (by an unverified person) that he's quoting as his source. Okaaaaay... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 *I'M NOT A DOCTOR* IMO the only reason you'd get a 2nd opinion is if: a. Rehab vs. Surgery b. Career-threatening injury. We know that Hyde went to the hospital. Very conceivable that they did precautionary/exploratory scans/MRIs and something pre-existing injury popped up and they are advising Hyde that he can't play anymore. Much like the Eric Wood situation. Hopefully it is not that but serious neck issues can be nebulous and can go undetected. He could have a minor injury but a serious risk could have been detected. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Hyde was originally said to be "Day-to-Day" on Tues or Wed wasn't he? Him also texting Poyer that he's okay makes me hopeful Where did that info come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I saw this on Finheaven. Its just pure speculation and don’t know who this guy is. It is a genuine possibility though. Obviously hoping for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I saw this on Finheaven. Its just pure speculation and don’t know who this guy is. So you look into that tweet and he gets that info from some Bills YouTube guy having a guy on to speculate about it, so he's not hearing anything at all really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: So you look into that tweet and he gets that info from some Bills YouTube guy having a guy on to speculate about it, so he's not hearing anything at all really. It's all speculation but it's somewhat informed by Hyde's player history and what has happened with other players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I'd like to speculate that someone's speculation about someone else's unverified opinion may point to the possible end of someone's career that has no basis other than speculation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 It's all speculation until we get more info. Micah has been seen in the building every day so it's not like he's flying to the AO Foundation in Switzerland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 22 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: That had already been corrected, and was just a typo. And again, I have said over and over again I still think we win the game and Allen is who I take in a shootout 100% of the time. Just pointing out the importance of this game given our schedule ahead. Next 4 games are @Mia, @Balt, Pitt, @KC. Miami has Buf, @Cincy, @jets, Minn. If Miami manages to upset us this week, their next 3 games are all games they can win. Cincy has looked bad, Jets are the jets, and Minn looked horrific against the Eagles. Where we have to face 2 of the top AFC teams and offenses on the road in 2 of those next 3 weeks. And again, I think we can win all those games too, just pointing out their schedule is a bit easier than ours the next few weeks, so I think that makes this game a little more important as we don't want to risk going down multiple games early in the season to a divisional foe. Good analysis Alphadawg of our respective schedules. That is a very manly schedule the Bills have over the next month. Road games at Miami Baltimore and KC are nothing to sneeze at. Pittsburgh has a pretty marginal roster, especially without TJ Watt playing. Watching Trubisky play last nite against the Browns was almost painful. (especially since I bet them taking the 4 1/2 points. But Tomlin still should have went for the TD instead of the FG on 4th and 1 on their last drive. Its not 1975 Mike!!) How he was drafted # 2 in 2017 is absolutely beyond me. Kenny Pickett needs to start for the Steelers. Trubisky is just not an NFL starting QB. Cincinnati will get well against the Jets and give the Dolphins all they can handle on Thursday nite. But I do agree that Sunday in Miami is a big game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 hours ago, ddaryl said: defensive line can be difference makers Sunday too This is the most important aspect of the game. Our D line vs. the Phins O line. This is how we win. 33 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: I'd like to speculate that someone's speculation about someone else's unverified opinion may point to the possible end of someone's career that has no basis other than speculation. Yes, so much simpler to say that we don’t know right now. Good post 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I saw this on Finheaven. Its just pure speculation and don’t know who this guy is. Honestly...that was my first thought too...I have been thinking about Aaron Williams a lot more than I planned on this week... He is a football coach, which means he may be friendly with and/or know other coaches that personally know or have coached Hyde that probably would have heard something on it from friends or family... No idea if that is the case or not but wouldn't say that is out of the realm of possibility...coaches tend to be a pretty tight knit group. I have a friend who has some plugins that may have heard something, I will see if he knows anything. Edited September 23, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I saw this on Finheaven. Its just pure speculation and don’t know who this guy is. There's a lot of rumors circulating online and easy to speculate he's done for the season based on the whole '2nd opinion' story. But no matter what's happening it's a safe bet that Hyde probably won't be in the lineup any time soon even if the injury isn't season/career ending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: There's a lot of rumors circulating online and easy to speculate he's done for the season based on the whole '2nd opinion' story. But no matter what's happening it's a safe bet that Hyde probably won't be in the lineup any time soon even if the injury isn't season/career ending. “There’s a lot of rampant speculation out there…. So let me add mine!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It is a genuine possibility though. Obviously hoping for the best. True, but it could be anything at this point. It could be a more minor structural issue that can be corrected with surgery that keeps him out for two months. It could be that he felt himself go a little more numb than he has in the past when tweaking his neck, got the medical workup done at the hospital and it showed zero issues, and he's still uncomfortable about it and wants additional doctors to take a look to make sure he's not endangering his future mobility out there. Obviously, we're free to speculate and worry as much as we'd like, but we won't know anything definitive until we hear it from the docs or Hyde himself. But I do think it's irresponsible for some Fins fan to go spreading hearsay on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: THANKS! Great write up! Bummer about Hyde, and I am not talking about even this game. The moment he was seeking a 2nd opinion we knew that what ever news he got on his injury was not something he liked, meaning it probably meant some sort of sustained time missed, possibly even needed some sort of season ending surgery. I really hope it ends up being relatively short term, not only because he such a good player, but just because this team feels on the verge of something special, and he has been a big part of getting to this point for a long time now. I would be sick for him if something happened where he had to miss the rest of the season. I agree on all your guesses too, that seems to be pretty spot on based on what we know. I think Dane will return sometime between next week and the KC game, and probably against Balt or Pitt. I really hope Poyer can go, its gonna be tough being down our whole starting secondary plus Phillips up front who has been wreaking havoc this season. Speaking of Phillips, I am concerned about how long he might be out. To be ruled out this soon on a hamstring injury is pretty significant. That tells me its not a minor hammy issue, and these things can linger and take a while to heal. So, it could lead to Phillips being out several weeks, but lets hope not. Re:Phillips, I think he had a hammy injury during his stint with the Cardinals. Not sure if same hammy. Coach said he was day to day, during his press conference Tuesday. I'd like to see him heal up completely, especially if it's the same leg that he dealt with before. Based on how he immediately collapsed running, going to guess he felt it twinging (but not pulled). Hoping Balt return, but more likely Steeler game. 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Hyde was originally said to be "Day-to-Day" on Tues or Wed wasn't he? Him also texting Poyer that he's okay makes me hopeful Actually Coach didn't say "day to day", he said we will take it one day at a time with Hyde. He used "day to day" for the other injuries, except Dane. Agree on Poyer comment, that is encouraging. But it was immediately after the game, prior to this 2nd opinion, so hopefully no news is good news right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: “There’s a lot of rampant speculation out there…. So let me add mine!” Saying he's going to be out of the lineup indefinitely isn't really reaching here given the circumstances and how this team handles injuries. Losing Hyde for the season cannot be understated in terms of how dramatically it would change this defense and teams SB aspirations so hopefully that's not a scenario that Bills mafia has to realize in the near term. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Based on how he immediately collapsed running, going to guess he felt it twinging (but not pulled). Hoping Balt return, but more likely Steeler game. That was my initial thought as well. I think most of us have been there. Dead sprint and you feel it tighten up and you just dead stop to avoid a major blowout. If it was a tear, he'd be on IR, so it's likely just a light strain. But I agree, give him a couple of weeks to get back to 100%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Why was he even on the field in the 4th qtr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Why was he even on the field in the 4th qtr? It was the middle of the 3rd Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Saying he's going to be out of the lineup indefinitely isn't really reaching here given the circumstances and how this team handles injuries. Losing Hyde for the season cannot be understated in terms of how dramatically it would change this defense and teams SB aspirations so hopefully that's not a scenario that Bills mafia has to realize in the near term. Don't take too much joy in making these statements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Saying he's going to be out of the lineup indefinitely isn't really reaching here given the circumstances and how this team handles injuries. Losing Hyde for the season cannot be understated in terms of how dramatically it would change this defense and teams SB aspirations so hopefully that's not a scenario that Bills mafia has to realize in the near term. If he's out for the season w a neck injury it likely has quality of life implications going forward, so personally I'd be very happy to see him walk away from football if that's the case and I imagine most Bills fans would feel similarly. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: It was the middle of the 3rd Q Gotcha, was just going by the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Saying he's going to be out of the lineup indefinitely isn't really reaching here given the circumstances and how this team handles injuries. Losing Hyde for the season cannot be understated in terms of how dramatically it would change this defense and teams SB aspirations so hopefully that's not a scenario that Bills mafia has to realize in the near term. Just suck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Don't take too much joy in making these statements. Why would I be happy about this? He's one of the best players we have and for Hyde personally there's a lot more to think about than football given the nature of the injury. Hopefully he'll be fine but the bad injury mojo is already hanging a dark cloud over this team despite the hot start and that's the one thing that can stop a SB run dead in it's tracks no matter how good JA17 is playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Saying he's going to be out of the lineup indefinitely isn't really reaching here given the circumstances and how this team handles injuries. Losing Hyde for the season cannot be understated in terms of how dramatically it would change this defense and teams SB aspirations so hopefully that's not a scenario that Bills mafia has to realize in the near term. Horse s*** as usual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Why would I be happy about this? He's one of the best players we have and for Hyde personally there's a lot more to think about than football given the nature of the injury. Hopefully he'll be fine but the bad injury mojo is already hanging a dark cloud over this team despite the hot start and that's the one thing that can stop a SB run dead in it's tracks no matter how good JA17 is playing. I didn't say you were happy about the injury, you are gleefully speculating that it could be an end to the bills superbowl hopes in a "one can only hope" way of saying it. The consistent pessimism everytime the Bills play someone coupled with the non stop fish hype, we know you are a closet fish fan. Just stop pretending. Edited September 23, 2022 by What a Tuel 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Yeah because the defense and the rest of the offense don’t do anything to help win games…, Bueller, Bueller, anyone…, Well with the injury bug hitting the team he pretty much is the team again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Well with the injury bug hitting the team he pretty much is the team again Yeah because the defense and the rest of the offense do nothing to help win games…, Bueller, Bueller, anyone…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, What a Tuel said: I didn't say you were happy about the injury, you are gleefully speculating that it could be an end to the bills superbowl hopes in a "one can only hope" way of saying it. The consistent pessimism everytime the Bills play someone coupled with the non stop fish hype, we know you are a closet fish fan. Just stop pretending. Not really. And even though I feel Hyde is a very important veteran piece to this defense, i don't think it necessarily changes this teams ultimate goal this year unless this season goes the way of the Ravens last year in terms of season ending injuries. Make no mistake about it though, this type of injury list two games into the season is not a good omen no matter how positive of a spin you want to put on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said: Not really. And even though I feel Hyde is a very important veteran piece to this defense, i don't think it necessarily changes this teams ultimate goal this year unless this season goes the way of the Ravens last year in terms of season ending injuries. Make no mistake about it though, this type of injury list two games into the season is not a good omen no matter how positive of a spin you want to put on it. Welcome back, you've been pretty quite lately...wonder why 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Not really. And even though I feel Hyde is a very important veteran piece to this defense, i don't think it necessarily changes this teams ultimate goal this year unless this season goes the way of the Ravens last year in terms of season ending injuries. Make no mistake about it though, this type of injury list two games into the season is not a good omen no matter how positive of a spin you want to put on it. Every team goes through injuries. Part of the game. McD is trying to keep the guys healthy. Bills will be alright on Sunday. They have a huge advantage at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I love Hyde and I don't want to see him miss games....at the same time, I think Jaquan Johnson is a stud. Bet he's in on a takeaway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Not for nothing it’s a homecoming game for Jaquan. The heat shouldn’t bother him much and he’ll likely have friends and family in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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