Warcodered Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 51 minutes ago, Big C said: For Hackett it’s going to be a question of learning game management over the course of the season. I don’t think he called a bad game. Hackett has been in the league for years. If he hasn't learned yet, he never will. He called that last drive like it was 1994. I think he is in over his head. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Bubba Gump said: That last 2 minute drive by the Broncos was absolutely pathetic. Wouldn't surprise me if Hackett is one and done. Maybe they should give him one more week.🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Bubba Gump said: Hackett has been in the league for years. If he hasn't learned yet, he never will. He called that last drive like it was 1994. I think he is in over his head. God I do not miss Nathanial Hackett's playcalling. 2013 flashbacks all over the place. The first down incomplete, 2nd down run up the gut for 1.... he specialises in it. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Tuesday morning reflections: 1. Give the Seahawks and Shane Waldron in particular a lot of credit for the offensive gameplan in the first half. Lots of half field reads for Geno, lots of disguise and misdirection and Denver never really caught up with what they were doing. In the second half they managed to shut Seattle down and when Geno is forced into a conventional drop back game his limitations are clear, but the damage was done. Seattle had enough points to win. 2. Part of that is I thought Seattle was, for the most part, the better team up front. And that is a concern I have had for the Broncos. Their offensive line is very meh, Grant Bolles has never been my favourite left tackle and the rest are average, below average or unproven. Their defensive line is a little better.... I do like their edge players... but I think they are weak in the middle. 3. Denver's playcalling. 🤢. Their gameplan was atrocious. Their playcalling predictable. It was the Nathaniel Hackett I remember from Buffalo. Awful. Especially in the redzone. If Russ got mad in Seattle with the offense being too vanilla he is not going to enjoy this experience. 4. Russ himself just feels a bit less dynamic. I don't know if it is age or the injury, but there just doesn't seem like there is as much pop in his arm and he runs less. Last night he played Quarterback like a shorter version of Matt Ryan. I don't know that is going to get it done in a league with the dynamic athletes we have playing the position now. 5. Finally on Denver they were yet another team that looked sloppy and undisciplined in week one. Ultimately coaching won this game for Seattle. They are less talented than the Broncos but fair play to Pete and his staff, they had their guys more ready to play. I still think ultimately Seattle is going to be a bottom 5 team this year, but Pete hasn't forgotten to coach and he might help them spring one or two more surprises as they go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 And analysts are picking Denver to go to the superbowl? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steptide said: And analysts are picking Denver to go to the superbowl? I never bought that. I never felt the rest of the team was as Superbowl ready as some of the talking heads. They have two v talented young receivers in Sutton and Jeudy and I still expect both to have big years. They have a decent secondary, but their defense loses Vic Fangio's scheming from last year. And he is one of the best in the game. I think they could possibly compete for a wildcard.... but I still feel like maybe the Raiders are ahead of them (as well as obviously KC and LAC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 My biggest takeaway from last night is that I can’t believe Nate Hackett is a head coach. I do think Denver suffered from not playing anyone during preseason. They lost that game in the first half. Agree with @GunnerBill that the Broncos may be 4th in that division. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Brandon, you're delusional. That may be your line to get to in Denver's thin air, but you weren't in Denver. No player in NFL history has ever kicked a ball that far in an outdoor stadium that is not in Denver, and that was only done once in Denver. So your line was a ridiculous overreach. . It really wasn’t. The kick was long enough and it wasn’t wildly off target. He missed it wide left but not by a lot, and with plenty of distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 59 minutes ago, Steptide said: And analysts are picking Denver to go to the superbowl? What analysts picked Denver to go to the Superbowl? The talk will be about the last drive and the timeouts, but 12 penalties for 106 yards are what killed the Broncos. Seattle had 7 first-downs from penalties, that's not a disciplined team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EffKCChiefs Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I'm rooting for the Chiefs Thursday but I think the Chargers are going to curb stomp them. Please explain why in the hell would you do this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 HOLY SLIME LIME ON PRIME TIME.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, eball said: My biggest takeaway from last night is that I can’t believe Nate Hackett is a head coach. I do think Denver suffered from not playing anyone during preseason. They lost that game in the first half. Agree with @GunnerBill that the Broncos may be 4th in that division. I had so many flashbacks to his days in Buffalo and wanting to throw something through the TV. I’m glad he’s not our coach. I don’t understand what the league sees in the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I had so many flashbacks to his days in Buffalo and wanting to throw something through the TV. I’m glad he’s not our coach. I don’t understand what the league sees in the guy. It is two things - his surname and players like him. But I don't think he has ever been a great OC let alone Head Coach. The two jobs are different, of course, but he is an overpromoted position coach for my money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, QCity said: What analysts picked Denver to go to the Superbowl? The talk will be about the last drive and the timeouts, but 12 penalties for 106 yards are what killed the Broncos. Seattle had 7 first-downs from penalties, that's not a disciplined team. The goal to go fumbles... Edited September 13, 2022 by Mr. WEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Tuesday morning reflections: 1. Give the Seahawks and Shane Waldron in particular a lot of credit for the offensive gameplan in the first half. Lots of half field reads for Geno, lots of disguise and misdirection and Denver never really caught up with what they were doing. In the second half they managed to shut Seattle down and when Geno is forced into a conventional drop back game his limitations are clear, but the damage was done. Seattle had enough points to win. 2. Part of that is I thought Seattle was, for the most part, the better team up front. And that is a concern I have had for the Broncos. Their offensive line is very meh, Grant Bolles has never been my favourite left tackle and the rest are average, below average or unproven. Their defensive line is a little better.... I do like their edge players... but I think they are weak in the middle. 3. Denver's playcalling. 🤢. Their gameplan was atrocious. Their playcalling predictable. It was the Nathaniel Hackett I remember from Buffalo. Awful. Especially in the redzone. If Russ got mad in Seattle with the offense being too vanilla he is not going to enjoy this experience. 4. Russ himself just feels a bit less dynamic. I don't know if it is age or the injury, but there just doesn't seem like there is as much pop in his arm and he runs less. Last night he played Quarterback like a shorter version of Matt Ryan. I don't know that is going to get it done in a league with the dynamic athletes we have playing the position now. 5. Finally on Denver they were yet another team that looked sloppy and undisciplined in week one. Ultimately coaching won this game for Seattle. They are less talented than the Broncos but fair play to Pete and his staff, they had their guys more ready to play. I still think ultimately Seattle is going to be a bottom 5 team this year, but Pete hasn't forgotten to coach and he might help them spring one or two more surprises as they go. None of this is wrong. But if the Broncos don’t fumble on the goalline twice, they win. Edited September 13, 2022 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, FireChans said: None of this is wrong. But if the Broncos don’t fumble on the goalline twice, they win. True. I do think Seattle are still a bad team, and said as much. But Denver's issues were laid pretty bare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBob806 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Wilson's days of running around & making plays are numbered. Sure, he will make some. Hopefully not enough. Can't stand Denver. 7-10 please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 both teams are bad teams, and I never really thought Wilson was capable of propelling Denver to the next level Seattle, with Geno Smith, is all in for a top 10 draft pick and Denver is in QB purgatory for awhile. Wilson will keep Denver drafting between 10 and 20 IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Finally on Denver they were yet another team that looked sloppy and undisciplined in week one. Ultimately coaching won this game for Seattle. They are less talented than the Broncos but fair play to Pete and his staff, they had their guys more ready to play. I still think ultimately Seattle is going to be a bottom 5 team this year, but Pete hasn't forgotten to coach That’s it. Broncos: multiple penalties of the “we’re not prepared” variety, including 2 (and it should have been more) delay of games. Plus nothing resembling a 2 minute offense, hence the total lack of faith in the offense to get the ball into normal FG position. It’s tough to lose an opener against a team that really looks like it’s built to draft Bryce Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Brandon, you're delusional. That may be your line to get to in Denver's thin air, but you weren't in Denver. No player in NFL history has ever kicked a ball that far in an outdoor stadium that is not in Denver, and that was only done once in Denver. So your line was a ridiculous overreach. . Part of being a head coach is knowing the difference between what a player believes he’s capable of doing and what he’s actually, realistically capable of in a real game situation. “McManus was making them from 65 in pregame warmups” is like “my first baseman hit a dozen homers in batting practice.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 How are teams this sloppy for week 1? I dont recall such a plague in the past. Like 75% of the league, especially on offense, were just not ready. The Patriots dropped a really critical divisional game against a potential wild card rival... and I see fans shrugging it off as no big deal because preseason is truncated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 11 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: I’ll have to see a larger sample size. He was absolutely awful in his 3-4 starts last season. If he continues like this, absolutely. I think you're misremembering. He was pretty good. 5 TD, 1 INT, passer rating over 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: How are teams this sloppy for week 1? I dont recall such a plague in the past. Like 75% of the league, especially on offense, were just not ready. The Patriots dropped a really critical divisional game against a potential wild card rival... and I see fans shrugging it off as no big deal because preseason is truncated. Every year. The Bills lost to the Steelers week 1 last year. Edited September 13, 2022 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 46 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: How are teams this sloppy for week 1? I dont recall such a plague in the past. Like 75% of the league, especially on offense, were just not ready. The Patriots dropped a really critical divisional game against a potential wild card rival... and I see fans shrugging it off as no big deal because preseason is truncated. Teams are sloppy every year but Patriots fans are just in denial. They don't know how to deal with being mediocre to bad, and all signs are pointing that this will probably the Patriots' worst season in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Memo to teams: play your starters in the preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, FireChans said: Every year. The Bills lost to the Steelers week 1 last year. I get that... but I walked away thinking the Steelers were just strong with the pass-rush and were opportunistic. The Bills also got a bit unlucky... blocked punt too, but that was a trademark of Haaeck's slow delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 54 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: That’s it. Broncos: multiple penalties of the “we’re not prepared” variety, including 2 (and it should have been more) delay of games. Plus nothing resembling a 2 minute offense, hence the total lack of faith in the offense to get the ball into normal FG position. It’s tough to lose an opener against a team that really looks like it’s built to draft Bryce Young. 2 minutes left - you get the 1st and 10 on your side of the field. Either hurry up, or call timeout to call a couple of plays. Instead they ran like 30 seconds off the clock, seattle jumped the snap count for the like 40th time in the game, and they lost 4 yards. The next play was a quick pass incompletion, and the 3rd and 14 play was a swing pass behind the LOS. 4th and 5 with a minute left from the +46? Terrible clock management. Terrible use of timeouts. Terrible play calling. 2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I get that... but I walked away thinking the Steelers were just strong with the pass-rush and were opportunistic. The Bills also got a bit unlucky... blocked punt too, but that was a trademark of Haaeck's slow delivery. Big Ben had a couple of nice throws in that game. I think over the course of a season his arm would get worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I get that... but I walked away thinking the Steelers were just strong with the pass-rush and were opportunistic. The Bills also got a bit unlucky... blocked punt too, but that was a trademark of Haaeck's slow delivery. The point still stands, sloppy play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Honestly, that was the Seahawks supper bowl. Good for them. Hackett and their red zone offense was terrible. But that team has a lot of talent and should be dangerous. also that revenge Baker-Wilson parlay 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 The poor Denver fans. They looked so good in preseason too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 You really have to wonder if Nate Hackett is in over his head. Just seemed to look really lost and confused the whole game. Pressure is going to ramp up quickly if the Broncos lose again this week and continue to look sloppy with questionable coaching decisions. And to be honest I think they probably should have given Fangio another year especially with a viable QB option in Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: God I do not miss Nathanial Hackett's playcalling. 2013 flashbacks all over the place. The first down incomplete, 2nd down run up the gut for 1.... he specialises in it. He was bad at SU, bad in Buffalo and still sucks. Teams need to stop hiring coordinators that have Hall of Fame players leading their unit. Just like Josh is Buffalo’s offense, Aaron is GBs offense. The only thing I can imagine is that Elway thought he’d get Rodgers with Hackett. Whoops. Maybe next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: You really have to wonder if Nate Hackett is in over his head. Just seemed to look really lost and confused the whole game. Agreed. Maybe he’ll come around. Being a head coach/CEO/whatever is just not the same as being the lead assistant, so it may take time. McDermott was mocked as McClappy back in those first couple years, and he’s grown into being a rock of stability. But no, I didn’t like the hire. The Broncos 2022 are not the Bills 2017. The rookie McDermott Bills had a shock playoff season, but everyone knew this was a team trying to build for true contender status in 3 or so years. The 2022 Broncs should be in win now mode with their 33 year old QB and a lot of talent in its prime/cost-controlled years. An excitable rookie coach like Hackett was just the wrong choice. As others have said, he was Rodgers bait, not the best overall choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, FireChans said: The point still stands, sloppy play. 8 penalties, 4 fumbles, missed tackles. A lot of the same crap Denver had in this game. 34 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: You really have to wonder if Nate Hackett is in over his head. Just seemed to look really lost and confused the whole game. Pressure is going to ramp up quickly if the Broncos lose again this week and continue to look sloppy with questionable coaching decisions. And to be honest I think they probably should have given Fangio another year especially with a viable QB option in Wilson. There's talent there. The offensive line is not inherently bad. But when every snap comes up at 1, they jump that snap count. The pre-snap motion reminded me of Roman. It's there, but it really never amounts to anything - and you never have enough time to even do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 LOL, Melvin, maybe dont fumble on the goal line AGAIN. Maybe worry about your own coach. And the Super Bowl isnt in play for either of you. 37 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: You really have to wonder if Nate Hackett is in over his head. Just seemed to look really lost and confused the whole game. Pressure is going to ramp up quickly if the Broncos lose again this week and continue to look sloppy with questionable coaching decisions. And to be honest I think they probably should have given Fangio another year especially with a viable QB option in Wilson. You dont have to wonder. He absolutely is in over his head. He was in over his head as the floundering OC in SYRACUSE. If anyone ever wonders about why the NFL needs to implement rules that force teams to expand their coaching searches, look no further than the nepotism that has allowed HACKett to fail his way upwards from high school waterboy to NFL Head Coach simply because of his daddy. This dude has done nothing to earn his position, and should have been banished from the league after the Jags stint. If Denver is smart, they'll one-and-done him. Blame it on the new ownership. This chump is not their answer. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: LOL, Melvin, maybe dont fumble on the goal line AGAIN. Maybe worry about your own coach. And the Super Bowl isnt in play for either of you. Yeah, I'm sure either one of these two teams are a likely contender to make it to that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Yeah, I'm sure either one of these two teams are a likely contender to make it to that game. With it being another 4 years away, I doubt Gordon will ever play Seattle again in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 59 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: LOL, Melvin, maybe dont fumble on the goal line AGAIN. Maybe worry about your own coach. And the Super Bowl isnt in play for either of you. You dont have to wonder. He absolutely is in over his head. He was in over his head as the floundering OC in SYRACUSE. If anyone ever wonders about why the NFL needs to implement rules that force teams to expand their coaching searches, look no further than the nepotism that has allowed HACKett to fail his way upwards from high school waterboy to NFL Head Coach simply because of his daddy. This dude has done nothing to earn his position, and should have been banished from the league after the Jags stint. If Denver is smart, they'll one-and-done him. Blame it on the new ownership. This chump is not their answer. Obviously one game doesn't make a career and to his credit he has had a lot of success as an assistant especially in Jax under Marrone when a Blake Bortles led Jaguars team was within a few minutes of a SB if not blowing a lead against the patriots in Foxboro. Also think he was a key part of the Packers success the last few years with Rogers being back to back MVP. Time will tell what happens in Denver but I do agree he could be one and done there if they don't make the playoffs because that is the minimum expectation there after going out and getting Russ Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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