Bills show what a class organization they are

[marck]

Lets take the opportunity to congratulate the Buffalo Bills organization for the way they handled this very difficult issue with Matt Ariaza.

 

Each step was calculated, the response measured and the action swift and deceive.

 

Maybe organizations like the Browns and Dolphins can use this to learn that in player acquisition ethics, integrity and character are far more important then play on the field.

[Rico]

It was a little shaky last night and understandably so, but all is well now.

[Alphadawg7]

4 minutes ago, marck said:

Lets take the opportunity to congratulate the Buffalo Bills organization for the way they handled this very difficult issue with Matt Ariaza.

 

Each step was calculated, the response measured and the action swift and deceive.

 

Maybe organizations like the Browns and Dolphins can use this to learn that in player acquisition ethics, integrity and character are far more important then play on the field.

 

100%.  Class act all the way.  Not just today, but even not rushing to judgement on Matt and trying to find out facts recognizing this was an accusation prior to this.  

 

I completely applaud everything they have done in the handling of this.  Even how McD handled the post game PC refusing to talk football and only talk about this because this is bigger than a game.  

 

Beane and McD handling of the press conference too was all class act despite some sleezy attempts by reporters to force narratives to try and paint a bad picture for click bait headlines.  

 

Proud this is the team I am a massive fan of.  

[NewEra]

They did.  Class act for sure.  Another scum FO will pick him up
 

@DrPJax did you say you would stop being a bills fan if the FO did this?

Edited August 28, 2022 by NewEra

[Buffalo716]

The bills kept Tyrel Dodson after he was accused and arrested for domestic violence

[Mark Vader]

 @jkirchofer ,you want to chime in on this?

[BigDingus]

I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months.

 

Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June.

 

I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support.

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The bills kept Tyrel Dodson after he was accused and arrested for domestic violence

He went on to the exempt list and plead to a lesser charge.

[UKBillFan]

The only misstep for me is cutting Haack over Araiza. If they knew this was hanging over the latter, why cut the former when they did?

Edited August 28, 2022 by UKBillFan

[Billsatlastin2018]

1 minute ago, BigDingus said:

I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months.

 

Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June.

 

I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support.

That is a BIG question!

 

But, to be fair, double digit teams have said that they knew nothing!

[Victory Formation]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

The only misstep for me is cutting Haack over Araiza. If they knew this was hanging over the latter, why cut the former when they did?

I think they intended on moving on from Haack regardless of Araiza.

[Rico]

3 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months.

 

Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June.

 

I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support.

Who cares, he’s gone. A 48-hour distraction  that’s over.

[Simon Says]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The bills kept Tyrel Dodson after he was accused and arrested for domestic violence

He pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and was suspended 6 games. The Araiza situation does not appear close to resolution.

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months.

 

Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June.

 

I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support.

In fairness, most mock drafts had Araiza as the third or fourth punter to go due to doubts surrounding hang time and holding.

[Niagara Dude]

I trust that the Bills got enoughdetails and made a decision based on knowing enough and this would turn into a media circus distraction. People can jump to their own conclusions but any type of involvement is no good for a team like the Bills which has a HC who prides himself in having high character players on the team.

 

The Bills are not the Browns,  the answers and end of this case may take years and they need to move on.  

 

 

Maybe now the ambulance chaser lawyer of the accuser can now focus on all 3 defendants and not just Matt because he is a NFL PLAYER.  Her lawyer was tweeting out details the past few days that focused solely on Matt. If the accuser was indeed gang raped and beaten then people responsible should be punished in a criminal court of law not looking for payouts

[Ralonzo]

Congratulations on a LAMP.

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, Victory Formation said:

I think they intended on moving on from Haack regardless of Araiza.

Possibly. They could have held on to both until Tuesday and cut Haack then though; bought some time to see if anything else came out.

 

As you say, perhaps they decided there were enough free agent punters and those who will appear on waivers that we considered ourselves in a better position cutting Haack whatever the outcome with Araiza.

[Simon Says]

5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

He went on to the exempt list and plead to a lesser charge.

Good point. Araiza was not a member of the NFL when this incident occurred so apparently Exempt list not an option.

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months.

 

Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June.

 

I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support.

 

People need to stop with the predraft stuff, its been overwhelmingly confirmed that it was not known predraft by the Bills, the NFL, or other teams.  

 

This is the stuff that drives me crazy...no disrespect Dingus, I really mean no disrespect.  But people keep saying things like this that cause false information to persist. I get you may not have been privy yet to these facts, but its a dead issue...no one knew before the draft, and according to Beane neither Matt or his agent even knew until this summer about it or the potential civil case.  And that is because the criminal case had not even gotten started yet, so there had been no authorities or anyone contacting Matt either prior to the civil matter getting started.  

[Chandler#81]

7 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

The only misstep for me is cutting Haack over Araiza. If they knew this was hanging over the latter, why cut the former when they did?

Haak was outta here even if they had to find a UKBillFan to punt.

 

(you’re better than Barkley, right?)

[CorkScrewHill]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The bills kept Tyrel Dodson after he was accused and arrested for domestic violence

He eventually plead guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. Not certain the point you were making

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Haak was outta here even if they had to find a UKBillFan to punt.

 

(you’re better than Barkley, right?)

Oh definitely. 45 yards is a breeze…

[ExiledInIllinois]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The bills kept Tyrel Dodson after he was accused and arrested for domestic violence

Rape is domestic on violence on steroids. 

 

 

[marck]

9 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

Congratulations on a LAMP.

What are you talking about, if you have a problem with my post, say what it is

[JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS]

Based on what we think we know we know, this was the right answer.  Time to move on.

[Ralonzo]

1 minute ago, marck said:

What are you talking about, if you have a problem with my post, say what it is

 

There two well-established, well-moderated threads for discussing this subject. Yours is what's known as a LAMP: "Look At My Post!"

[Rochesterfan]

16 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months.

 

Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June.

 

I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support.

 

They pretty much stated they and confirming with the NFL - the league had no knowledge by the draft.  Even Matt’s agent knew nothing.

 

Matt was not the best punting prospect in ages - that is absolutely BS.  He had the best leg, but there were huge questions about his hang time, directional kicking, control over kicks to prevent touchbacks, and his speed to get punts off.  Most pre-draft things had 3-4 punters that depending on what you wanted being his equal or better - including the 2 guys drafted before him.

 

 

[Putin]

23 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

The only misstep for me is cutting Haack over Araiza. If they knew this was hanging over the latter, why cut the former when they did?

Because he sucks !!??

Edited August 28, 2022 by Putin

[ganesh]

22 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months.

 

Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June.

 

I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support.

 

I agree with it.  The Bills investigation team would have had to have known about it and raised a red flag; may be they raised it and Beane/McDermott ignored it. 

 

Also, the BIlls organisation would have shown MORE class if they had cut him before the Carolina game.   MY worry is the fear in Beane and McDermott to let go of a player at a non-critical position with zero financial impact.  I understand that the Bills are in general a very caring and empathy oriented organzation towards the players;  But this one needed to show to players that at the end Beane and McDermott are the boss and they will be ruthless with things that bring disrepute to the Buffalo Bills.  

[Buffalo716]

41 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

He eventually plead guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. Not certain the point you were making

I think it’s silly to say The bills are a class organization because they released MA 

 

When they have a alleged murderer on the wall of fame and another player with who got arrested for domestic abuse

 

Now I’m not saying those things make them a classless organization… But They are a football organization

 

They generally do what they think is in the best interest of the team… I didn’t think them keeping Dodson made them classless… Tho some certainly did

 

And I don’t equate them cutting MA to class

 

It was a business decision

35 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Rape is domestic on violence on steroids. 

 

 

Again I’m not Saying it isn’t … rape is obviously much much more serious 

 

I’m saying it’s hard call the bills a classy or classless organization based on one roster transaction

 

We have an alleged murderer on the wall of fame

Edited August 28, 2022 by Buffalo716

[SCBills]

Class would be cutting him because facts arose that showed he is guilty. 
 

Class would be sticking by someone who you believe is innocent in the face of media and Twitter mobs. 
 

Bills did neither of those things, but they did handle a horrible set of circumstances about as well as they could in the context of running a business. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I think it’s silly to say The bills are a class organization because they released MA 

 

When they have a alleged murderer on the wall of fame and another player with who got arrested for domestic abuse

 

Now I’m not saying those things make them a classless organization… But They are a football organization

 

They generally do what they think is in the best interest of the team… I didn’t think them keeping Dodson made them classless… Tho some certainly did

 

And I don’t equate them cutting MA to class

 

It was a business decision

Again I’m not Saying one is better than the other

 

I’m saying it’s hard call the bills a classy or classless organization based on one roster transaction

 

We have an alleged murderer on the wall of fame

Acquitted. 

 

20 years after he played. 

 

You don't have to like the acquittal, but you have to respect the law.

[london_bills]

Yes they handled it well.

[ganesh]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Class would be cutting him because facts arose that showed he is guilty. 
 

Class would be sticking by someone who you believe is innocent in the face of media and Twitter mobs. 
 

Bills did neither of those things, but they did handle a horrible set of circumstances about as well as they could in the context of running a business. 

well said

[Rico]

3 minutes ago, ganesh said:

 

I agree with it.  The Bills investigation team would have had to have known about it and raised a red flag; may be they raised it and Beane/McDermott ignored it. 

 

Also, the BIlls organisation would have shown MORE class if they had cut him before the Carolina game.   MY worry is the fear in Beane and McDermott to let go of a player at a non-critical position with zero financial impact.  I understand that the Bills are in general a very caring and empathy oriented organzation towards the players;  But this one needed to show to players that at the end Beane and McDermott are the boss and they will be ruthless with things that bring disrepute to the Buffalo Bills.  

I don’t think you break that news in Carolina, you have to do it back home.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Acquitted. 

 

20 years after he played. 

 

You don't have to like the acquittal, but you have to respect the law.

And Matt Ariza has not been charged with a crime yet

Edited August 28, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Warcodered]

Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:

Acquitted. 

 

20 years after he played. 

 

You don't have to like the acquittal, but you have to respect the law.

He did get convicted for other things later though, also was civilly liable.

[JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Class would be cutting him because facts arose that showed he is guilty. 
 

Class would be sticking by someone who you believe is innocent in the face of media and Twitter mobs. 
 

Bills did neither of those things, but they did handle a horrible set of circumstances about as well as they could in the context of running a business. 

Unless, based on the new information they have, they believe MA is destable human being.  In that case, the classy thing is to cut him, even though they just built the punting game around his leg.

[Putin]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I think it’s silly to say The bills are a class organization because they released MA 

 

When they have a alleged murderer on the wall of fame and another player with who got arrested for domestic abuse

 

Now I’m not saying those things make them a classless organization… But They are a football organization

 

They generally do what they think is in the best interest of the team… I didn’t think them keeping Dodson made them classless… Tho some certainly did

 

And I don’t equate them cutting MA to class

 

It was a business decision

Again I’m not Saying one is better than the other

 

I’m saying it’s hard call the bills a classy or classless organization based on one roster transaction

 

We have an alleged murderer on the wall of fame

OJ did it ??? 

[HamSandwhich]

This is a terrible precedent for our country. People can and do lie, now anyone can just levy an accusation and it means you lose your job? 
 

Some people suggest that this is a private business, which is true, so they can handle it any way they need to. What if this was you and your job and someone were to hurl an accusation you know you didn’t do and you were let go?

 

I’m not saying he’s innocent or not but we don’t have all the facts. 
 

I hope the Bills know something specific we don’t know and are moving on that. At this point it’s an accusation, and you can accuse a ham sandwich for anything. People here seem to be ok with lively hoods destroyed just for an accusation that may be proven false in the end. Sad state of affairs and actually the opposite of class. Class would have been letting it play out instead of jumping the gun, but here we are in todays backward world.