Dan Darragh Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I always assumed that the K practices as a backup to the P (and vice versa). Why didn't the Bills use Bass to punt? And what made them think that Barkley would be any good at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: I always assumed that the K practices as a backup to the P (and vice versa). Why didn't the Bills use Bass to punt? And what made them think that Barkley would be any good at it? I was wondering that, as he has a record of a 60 yard field goal so can get distance. I assume we either didn’t want to dress him up or have him practice with a different holder to the one he’ll be playing with across the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted August 27, 2022 Author Share Posted August 27, 2022 Uh, I think you missed my point. Bass DID play last night but only kicked off since the Bills never scored and never tried a FG. My question is why they had Barkley punting instead of Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: Uh, I think you missed my point. Bass DID play last night but only kicked off since the Bills never scored and never tried a FG. My question is why they had Barkley punting instead of Bass Apologies, didn’t realise he kicked off. Suppose they didn’t want him at risk of getting challenged/injured during a field goal attempt or a punt? If yesterday was a league game I presume he would have punted as the emergency option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Maybe he can’t punt 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 He probably is, but why risk having him do it in a meaningless pre-season game? Also, based on one of the Training Camp reports, Josh Allen is probably your most capable back-up punter. Wouldn't that be wild - stupid, but fun for a moment. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I'd rather not have Bass in the punting formation where he's much more at risk of someone taking out his leg. 4 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CSBill said: He probably is, but why risk having him do it in a meaningless pre-season game? Also, based on one of the Training Camp reports, Josh Allen is probably your most capable back-up punter. Wouldn't that be wild - stupid, but fun for a moment. At this rate Josh will be doing everything. Edited August 27, 2022 by UKBillFan 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 - Two different skill sets. - Bass could get hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, CSBill said: He probably is, but why Also, based on one of the Training Camp reports, Josh Allen is probably your most capable back-up punter. Wouldn't that be wild - stupid, but fun for a moment. Ben R used to have a “surprise” punt or two back in his earlier years. 3rd and 37 from your 10 yard line. You don’t want to risk your QB getting sacked or the eventual punt blocked…quick kick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 47 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: I always assumed that the K practices as a backup to the P (and vice versa). Why didn't the Bills use Bass to punt? And what made them think that Barkley would be any good at it? Different mechanics for each. Kicker punts, then messes up a meaningful field goal. Don't want that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Question is what punters are available? Jordan Berry seems like the only option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said: I always assumed that the K practices as a backup to the P (and vice versa). Why didn't the Bills use Bass to punt? And what made them think that Barkley would be any good at it? For the same reason why your dentist isn't your back up brain surgeon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, CSBill said: He probably is, but why risk having him do it in a meaningless pre-season game? Also, based on one of the Training Camp reports, Josh Allen is probably your most capable back-up punter. Wouldn't that be wild - stupid, but fun for a moment. you could drop josh into shotgun and have him pooch kick one with no returner in an emergency of course they put a guy back and you get a 11 vs 10 play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, CSBill said: He probably is, but why risk having him do it in a meaningless pre-season game? Also, based on one of the Training Camp reports, Josh Allen is probably your most capable back-up punter. Wouldn't that be wild - stupid, but fun for a moment. Josh Blanda 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Marquette King? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, stevewin said: Josh Blanda 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said: I always assumed that the K practices as a backup to the P (and vice versa). Why didn't the Bills use Bass to punt? And what made them think that Barkley would be any good at it? Looks like he acquitted himself well and must have felt confident to do so. Better the third string qb risk any injury over our first string , harder to replace fg specialist as we look for a season preserving future solution. Imagine if he got hurt by a block attempt in a preseason game ; suddenly you have two specialists to replace in under two weeks , whereas Barkley is not expected to hit the field ! 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Probably trade for a punter at this point or get someone out of retirement. Pat McAfee has some free time I hear 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I'm old, but I remember when Daryle Lamonica in 1963 was the Bills regular punter 52 punts, 40 yard average, replaced by Paul Maguire the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 They’ll be working out punters today and beyond as McD sweats the details. I’ll save my comments as Simon asked to Araiza in the Araiza thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, CSBill said: He probably is, but why risk having him do it in a meaningless pre-season game? Also, based on one of the Training Camp reports, Josh Allen is probably your most capable back-up punter. Wouldn't that be wild - stupid, but fun for a moment. If true we could pull a Randall Cunningham play - I don't remember the distance but he got it over the deep man's head and it rolled a long way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Uh, I think you missed my point. Bass DID play last night but only kicked off since the Bills never scored and never tried a FG. My question is why they had Barkley punting instead of Bass Different techniques, and you don’t want to risk Bass pulling a hammy AT ALL. Also, Matt Barkley is the best punter in team quarterback history. The legend grows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 hours ago, CSBill said: He probably is, but why risk having him do it in a meaningless pre-season game? Also, based on one of the Training Camp reports, Josh Allen is probably your most capable back-up punter. Wouldn't that be wild - stupid, but fun for a moment. Like Danny White of Dallas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Here are the preseason stats for the second best punter on the teams that have had for more than one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Draconator said: Different mechanics for each. Kicker punts, then messes up a meaningful field goal. Don't want that. Sounds right. Punter basically ends up doing a standing split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Question is what punters are available? Jordan Berry seems like the only option. There are currently 3 teams with 2 punters, the Chargers, Titans and Bengals. Also, when Haack signed with Indy, there were about 5 punters trying out. There might also be a punter or 2 from the USFL who is good enough to bring in for a tryout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Kern is actually outperforming the rookie punter Stonehouse in TEN, If the Titans release Kern in a cap move, Bills should sign him, vet presence would steady the current noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Here are the preseason stats for the second best punter on the teams that have had for more than one. Bradley Pinion is a good name for a punter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: I always assumed that the K practices as a backup to the P (and vice versa). Why didn't the Bills use Bass to punt? And what made them think that Barkley would be any good at it? As has been said didn't want to risk injury from getting hit particularly since backups on O-line. I'd imagine too punting puts a whole different strain on leg, so Bass could have injured himself. Could be during practice Barkley looked decent at it. They must have known for some reason as he looked pretty good at it. Wouldn't surprise me Barkley's average last night beat Haack's average from last year. I didn't read through this entire thread but I'm sure if it had, it would been posted. LOL 2 hours ago, UKBillFan said: At this rate Josh will be doing everything. When I was a kid playing backyard football, we had a thing called an "angel pass" where the QB could throw it to himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Michael Palardy, who the Bills tried to sign before Haak a few years ago, is currently a FA and is a safe bet to be the guy. He’s an average punter, not sure how he is as a holder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted August 27, 2022 Author Share Posted August 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Could be during practice Barkley looked decent at it. They must have known for some reason as he looked pretty good at it. Barkley said in the post-game press conference that he never in his life even practiced punting until pre-game warmups. I guess the consensus here is that the risk of injury made Barkley the most expendable guy in the building. Curious, 4 days before cutdown, that nobody was more expendable than your QB3. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 39 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Kern is actually outperforming the rookie punter Stonehouse in TEN, If the Titans release Kern in a cap move, Bills should sign him, vet presence would steady the current noise. If he is that reliable, and I really like the idea of a veteran who knows what they are doing, it might even be worth a trade--a late round draft pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted August 27, 2022 Author Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, CSBill said: If he is that reliable, and I really like the idea of a veteran who knows what they are doing, it might even be worth a trade--a late round draft pick? Straight up for OJ Howard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: There are currently 3 teams with 2 punters, the Chargers, Titans and Bengals. Also, when Haack signed with Indy, there were about 5 punters trying out. There might also be a punter or 2 from the USFL who is good enough to bring in for a tryout. Something to consider is, how many of those punters have consistently played in inclement weather or cold weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 A couple of things I can think of - 1) It was a "reward" to Barkley. As people had mentioned, it's a practice game, so it doesn't really matter. 2) Perhaps Bass can't reliably catch a snap. Trust me, having someone throw a ball to you underhand, as hard as an average person is capable of throwing, w/ your hands away from your body, is a LOT more challenging than you think. And, of course as people have mentioned, there's the injury risk. Replacing a 3rd string practice squad QB is easier than an elite kicker. (For that matter, Barkley's value to the team is not based on his physical capabilities.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Well, if we have two backup punters (Bass & Barkley), that's better than most teams! Someone that can kick 40 and under field goals would be good too. I find it weird when a kicker is injured and you have players on the team try out during that week. I mean, all that time in training camp and you allow zero minutes to that important factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted August 27, 2022 Author Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, eSJayDee said: Perhaps Bass can't reliably catch a snap. Good point. Too bad he's not a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Barkley said in the post-game press conference that he never in his life even practiced punting until pre-game warmups. I guess the consensus here is that the risk of injury made Barkley the most expendable guy in the building. Curious, 4 days before cutdown, that nobody was more expendable than your QB3. He likely meant as a pro, cause they showed a stat he pointed 8xs in college Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: I always assumed that the K practices as a backup to the P (and vice versa). Why didn't the Bills use Bass to punt? And what made them think that Barkley would be any good at it? Seriously??? You would want him out there exposing himself to potential injury so he could kick fricking punts??? Thats a special kinda cray cray!!! Think with your head son! Bass is going to register ALOT of points for the Bills this year and you want him running around on punts??????? SMFH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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