2022 Tremaine Edmunds Prediction & Watch Thread

[elijah]

Another thread on the most polarizing guy in Buffalo 🤯 

 

I tried to search but the top 3 thread results were all locked so, I don’t know merge this with another one if there’s an active one I missed? 

 

What are we predicting for Edmunds in 2022? Get your thoughts on record now! 

 

Stats are hard for linebackers (and defensive players in general) so I’ll steer clear of hard stat predictions, but I’m definitely in the breakout bandwagon. A stud that completely locks down the middle of the field and leads a top 5 defense. Dare I say, all-pro? I’m hoping Beane resigns him before the regular season starts to something like 4yr/$60M before the price skyrockets to 5yr/$85M after he cements himself as a top 5 linebacker in the league. 

 

What does TBD predict for Edmunds in 2022? Get your future bragging rights — and cold takes — on paper now before the season starts! 

[ddaryl]

With our DL I want to see Edmunds make some plays for little ,no gain and loss of yards

 

 

[DJB]

How I envision this thread to go;

 

Edited August 20, 2022 by DJB

[BruceVilanch]

I predict he's on another team next year. 

[Coach Tuesday]

Edmunds thread trigger alert!

[gobills404]

McDermott always says Edmunds is the “leader” of the defense, so that means everything bad that happens on defense is his fault. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[Wagon Circler]

Another crappy season with 100 tackles and no impact plays. Get Spector ready!

[muppy]

Senor edmunds has a BIG target on his back with the 2bd fanbase . His every play will be scrutunized and critiqued. I just hope the excellence of our defensive line will create opportunities for he to shine...or it might get ugly up in here just sayin'

 

 

[dorquemada]

He'll be fine, not great.  TBD will predictably overreact

[RiotAct]

he stops running like a newborn colt.

[mushypeaches]

I don't think it's ridiculous to ask the guy to make some actual plays on the field.

 

I get all the talk about his leadership, the coordination, and how his speed and physical talent makes it tough on opposing passing defenses.  Seemingly, that's how the coaching staff values Edmunds, and that doesn't always lend itself to stats, or him always being at the spot on the field where the ball is being thrown.

 

But if he's the athlete that he's supposed to be, I expect to see what I say from Cornelius Bennett 30+ years ago. 

Chasing ball-carriers down from behind, instead of always being caught in the wash of OL getting to the second level. 

Plugging the gap and shedding blockers, instead of being muscled out of the play

Actually getting in the neighborhood of the QB on the few times he's allowed to rush the passer

Taking some chances and stepping into passing lanes instead of just positioning himself to make the tackle

 

So yeah, I get that what he does bring elevates the play of the entire defense.  But I'm NOT dishing out dollar #1 for a second contract without seeing him be better in all the areas I described above.  I don't think it's irrational to ask that out of what he brings to the table physically.  Otherwise, I'm willing to watch Bernard or even Spector play the position for a rookie contract salary in 2023

[HOUSE]

Why am I having gas again???

[Toyo321]

2 hours ago, HOUSE said:

Why am I having gas again???

Because you're sipping on that juice again.  It's a brand new season, same old bad taste on Tremaine.  His expiration date is this year.  Time to dump him down the drain. 😁

Edited August 20, 2022 by Toyo321

[HOUSE]

1 minute ago, Toyo321 said:

Because you're sipping on that juice again.  It's a brand new season, same old bad taste on Tramaine.  His expiration date is this year.  Time to dump him down the drain. 😁

He won't get the big money here but Cleveland loves to over pay 

[947]

I want to see him tackle through RBs. I can only think of 1 time in his 4 seasons that he really drove a RB backwards, and it was last year. He usually pulls guys down on top of him, which gives them an extra 2 yards.

[T&C]

30 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Why am I having gas again???

Are you complaining about free gas?

[Dopey]

 

I'm predicting the vocal few who want him gone still won't get it. The main thing our defense was lacking was getting to the QB and taking him down. That's not on Edmunds in this defense. Defensive end and old ass Hughes was a bigger issue than the QB of the top ranked defense.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Dopey

[Toyo321]

7 minutes ago, Dopey said:

 

I'm predicting the vocal few who want him gone still won't get it. The main thing our defense was lacking was getting to the QB and taking him down. That's not on Edmunds in this defense. Defensive end and old ass Hughes was a bigger issue than the QB of the top ranked defense.

Yeah I do get that.  The thing that bothers me the most is watching this guy play.  He IS NOT a impact linebacker at all.  He very seldom makes 1 on 1 plays for a loss or contains a RB out of the backfield with out help.  He just can't a stuff another player one on one.  The problem is both our linebackers are a problem. Milano does not get a free pass either.  Go back to Indy game last year.  Our Linebackers were completely MIA, they did absolutely nothing in that game.  We have had suspect Linebackers for years.  And yes it has cost us wins,  in the win loss column.  

 

I am hoping that we get better LB play this year.  Because it will be needed to make it to the SB this year.

[Dopey]

16 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

Yeah I do get that.  The thing that bothers me the most is watching this guy play.  He IS NOT a impact linebacker at all.  He very seldom makes 1 on 1 plays for a loss or contains a RB out of the backfield with out help.  He just can't a stuff another player one on one.  The problem is both our linebackers are a problem. Milano does not get a free pass either.  Go back to Indy game last year.  Our Linebackers were completely MIA, they did absolutely nothing in that game.  We have had suspect Linebackers for years.  And yes it has cost us wins,  in the win loss column.  

 

I am hoping that we get better LB play this year.  Because it will be needed to make it to the SB this year.

I hear ya, but Edmunds was not the reason we didn't get there last year. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Guna be a tough go for him without all pro Star Loutlelilililili clogging the middle.

What would even make you think about typing this?  Why are you even thinking about Star? 
 

must…..add…….more…….negative……spin…..

[benderbender]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

 

I'm predicting the vocal few who want him gone still won't get it. The main thing our defense was lacking was getting to the QB and taking him down. That's not on Edmunds in this defense. Defensive end and old ass Hughes was a bigger issue than the QB of the top ranked defense.

Valid point. However, the sticking point for many is that Edmunds gets virtually no direct criticism. It's all deflected towards scheme or coaching or the wind, but anything aside from poor decisions. It's astounding to me how someone who has been in-position for 4 years has such poor instincts. It speaks volumes when guys like Baylon Spector and Terrel Bernard who are considered undersized have real paths to the roster based on playing style and drive. 

[Dopey]

2 minutes ago, benderbender said:

Valid point. However, the sticking point for many is that Edmunds gets virtually no direct criticism.  It's all deflected towards scheme or coaching or the wind, but anything aside from poor decisions. It's astounding to me how someone who has been in-position for 4 years has such poor instincts. It speaks volumes when guys like Baylon Spector and Terrel Bernard who are considered undersized have real paths to the roster based on playing style and drive. 

Where?!? Not here. Even when Milano makes the mistake. He's TBD whipping boy.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Dopey

[Mr. WEO]

I came for the fresh Edmunds takes…

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Did y’all see him miss the tackle? Not sure.

[Bob in STL]

Beane will find a way to keep him for a fair salary and the naysayers will eventually be converted. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Come on, you don’t remember the constant reminders of how much better Tremaine would play once Star was back in the line up clogging the lanes? 😜

Never happened.  😎

[SoMAn]

I’ve been a vocal critic of Edmunds, but I have a feeling he’s aware of the criticism and will work hard to shut us up. With the reinforced D-line and another year of experience and maturity, I won’t be surprised if he blossoms into the LB we all want him to be. 

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, Toyo321 said:

Yeah I do get that.  The thing that bothers me the most is watching this guy play.  He IS NOT a impact linebacker at all.  He very seldom makes 1 on 1 plays for a loss or contains a RB out of the backfield with out help.  He just can't a stuff another player one on one.  The problem is both our linebackers are a problem. Milano does not get a free pass either.  Go back to Indy game last year.  Our Linebackers were completely MIA, they did absolutely nothing in that game.  We have had suspect Linebackers for years.  And yes it has cost us wins,  in the win loss column.  

 

I am hoping that we get better LB play this year.  Because it will be needed to make it to the SB this year.

Tremaine was injured in the Indy game, so your point is that he is very impactful because you notice his loss. Tremaine is asked to be a different LB so we can run a base nickel, you thinking the leading tackler on the number 1 ranked defense is not good is crazy. 

[bigduke6]

Edmunds is a physical freak,  tall, lanky, fast.    mbe hes great at clogging up the passing lanes in the middle of the field.    hes not great in run support though imo.   hes not a threat rushing the passer either.   ya he makes tackles,  are they impact tackles though?.   most of his tackles are 5+ yards downfield and hes rarely sticking a guy and pushing him back.   i said this last year about him,  somebody needs to teach him about leverage.   

 

so hes good at pass D

average at best in run support

below average pass rusher

hes a leader i guess

not an impact tackler

 

is this a pro bowl linebacker?  somebody you give a bag of money too?

 

with how much our new D line is hyped up,  if they deliver,  Edmunds has zero excuses this year to not play lights out.

im not against him,  i just want him to play better,  be a bigger impact.   hes still young.   i want to see improvement though.

Edited August 20, 2022 by bigduke6

[Toyo321]

4 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Tremaine was injured in the Indy game, so your point is that he is very impactful because you notice his loss. Tremaine is asked to be a different LB so we can run a base nickel, you thinking the leading tackler on the number 1 ranked defense is not good is crazy. 

That is not what I said.  I know he did not play in that game and like I said,  Klein and Milano did nothing in that game.  Frankly even in the game today Milano and Tremaine tackled each other instead Hinton over the middle.  The receiver was right in front of them and they take each other out.  Denver's OL number 77 put Milano on his ass and they were both running around again today and hardly making any impact plays when they were in there. 

 

Like I said we can only hope it gets better than what we saw on the field today against Denver's 2nd String players.  Like I said last year none of our linebackers finished in the top 25 at their position last year.  There are plenty of other LB's in the game that are better than Tremaine and Milano right now.

 

FYI, there were 30 other linebackers last year with more tackles than Tremaine.   So he is not all that special.

 

 

Edited August 21, 2022 by Toyo321

[Orlando Tim]

30 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

That is not what I said.  I know he did not play in that game and like I said,  Klein and Milano did nothing in that game.  Frankly even in the game today Milano and Tremaine tackled each other instead Hinton over the middle.  The receiver was right in front of them and they take each other out.  Denver's OL number 77 put Milano on his ass and they were both running around again today and hardly making any impact plays when they were in there. 

 

Like I said we can only hope it gets better than what we saw on the field today against Denver's 2nd String players.  Like I said last year none of our linebackers finished in the top 25 at their position last year.  There are plenty of other LB's in the game that are better than Tremaine and Milano right now.

 

FYI, there were 30 other linebackers last year with more tackles than Tremaine.   So he is not all that special.

 

 

So your point in the Edmunds thread is that the other LBs played poorly in the game Edmunds missed? Odd point, but truly Edmunds and Milano are asked to play a very different LB position than 25 years ago therefore he is hard to grade without knowing his assignment. Lastly usually the league high tacklers are on the bad defenses because they get a lot more chances to make tackles so to me being the #1 tackler on the best defense when the other teams only have 289 plays is more impressive vs the guys who faced 450 or 500 snaps.

Edited August 21, 2022 by Buffalo Timmy

[stinky finger]

10 hours ago, RiotAct said:

he stops running like a newborn colt.

[LABILLBACKER]

10 hours ago, muppy said:

Senor edmunds has a BIG target on his back with the 2bd fanbase . His every play will be scrutunized and critiqued. I just hope the excellence of our defensive line will create opportunities for he to shine...or it might get ugly up in here just sayin'

 

 

No more excuses with Von, Groot and Settle. If he continues to make tackles 7 yards downfield with few if any impact plays, they'll let him walk. Especially if he's looking for 12-14/yr.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

18 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

No more excuses with Von, Groot and Settle. If he continues to make tackles 7 yards downfield with few if any impact plays, they'll let him walk. Especially if he's looking for 12-14/yr.

He’s actually one of the top LBs in the league at making the tackle within the first 3 yards. Run defense is not one of his weaknesses. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

 

[nosejob]

9 hours ago, Toyo321 said:

Yeah I do get that.  The thing that bothers me the most is watching this guy play.  He IS NOT a impact linebacker at all.  He very seldom makes 1 on 1 plays for a loss or contains a RB out of the backfield with out help.  He just can't a stuff another player one on one.  The problem is both our linebackers are a problem. Milano does not get a free pass either.  Go back to Indy game last year.  Our Linebackers were completely MIA, they did absolutely nothing in that game.  We have had suspect Linebackers for years.  And yes it has cost us wins,  in the win loss column.  

 

I am hoping that we get better LB play this year.  Because it will be needed to make it to the SB this year.

  That goes on  McFrazier . Playing the nickel religiously cost us those wins. They didn't stop those runs until they let Milano loose. Taron Johnson cannot handle those bigger backs and the Hoodie saw that. If they had went 4-3 with Klein after say...20 straight runs, maybe it's a different story. IMO Frazier is old school and unwilling/capable of game planning on a weekly basis against different teams.

 

 Maybe this year will be different, IDK, but there will be teams that will try that M.O. this year and the only way to counter that is a 4-3....and LB blitzes...ie. Milano near the end of those 2 games. Every team will be looking to keep josh off the field and control T.O.P.  I'm betting next year it's Milano, Bernard and Spector, not counting a free agent or draft pick. Edmunds should be turned into picks before Halloween.

[RyanC883]

8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

 

this basically sums up Edmunds against the run. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

10 hours ago, Dopey said:

I hear ya, but Edmunds was not the reason we didn't get there last year. 

Yes that was McD and Frazier. 
 

As for Edmunds, I hope he plays up to his potential. If he does then they probably move on from Milano, because Oliver and Knox are not going anywhere.

[Bookie Man]

115 tackles, 8 tfl, 2 int, 2 sacks sounds about right.