Pete Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Imo Beane makes several deals. The Bills roster is too deep. There will be a feeding frenzy on Bills cuts. So Beane gets something instead of just gifting players to the league. Cody Ford, Haack, Crowder….there are many potential players traded because of numbers game what other Bill do you think might get traded? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Ford you might get a 6th rounder lol Haack will get you a bag of kettle corn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Fun topic.. I don’t think anyone gets traded though. Ford is the obvious. I’ll throw edmunds out not cause I want him gone, but someone is gonna say it cause he’s public enemy #1 round here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Who is going to trade anything -- literally anything -- for Matt Haack? No offense to the guy or anything, but he's a punter and there are football fans in rural Malaysia who know that we are going to release him. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Ford you might get a 6th rounder lol Haack will get you a bag of kettle corn Beane loves his draft picks, and is big fan of extra 6th round picks 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Guys who could get cut but have some trade value: Ford Kumerow Epenesa Giles-Harris Duke Johnson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Zero. A deep roster doesn't necessarily make it easier to trade guys when teams know you might actually be cutting two decent guys or putting good players on your practice squad. (Side note: Wildgoose has a great pre-season game for the Jets) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Ford possibly. I wonder if Cam Lewis might have some late round value as well if he ends up on the outside looking in here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Allen2Diggs said: Guys who could get cut but have some trade value: Ford Kumerow Epenesa Giles-Harris Duke Johnson I'd be shocked if Kumerow or Duke could fetch a draft pick, even with Beanes prowess. Ford is competing with VanRoten. I think Cody makes it as our 9th. AJ is making this team, can't see a situation we want Shaq as our 4th DE. Epenesa played fairly well last night, think he is our 4th DE and makes it. Giles Harris is a definitely a good call out. I think he's on the bubble, between him/Dodson/Spector. Thought he played well, but I could see Beane getting a late pick for him (if we don't keep him). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, Pete said: Imo Beane makes several deals. The Bills roster is too deep. There will be a feeding frenzy on Bills cuts. So Beane gets something instead of just gifting players to the league. Cody Ford, Haack, Crowder….there are many potential players traded because of numbers game what other Bill do you think might get traded? The Bills sat their starting 5 oline plus their 2 top reserve oline guys - Quessenberry and Mancz. Ford and Hart played only the first quarter yesterday at both guard spots. I think Doyle is OT4 and the battle for OG4 is Ford and Hart. As of now, I think Ford makes the team. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Malazan said: Zero. A deep roster doesn't necessarily make it easier to trade guys when teams know you might actually be cutting two decent guys or putting good players on your practice squad. (Side note: Wildgoose has a great pre-season game for the Jets) Zero? Like when Belichick knew Russell Bodine wouldn't make the team so he still insisted to trade a 6th round pick for him? 😎 Edited August 14, 2022 by syhuang 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, Pete said: Imo Beane makes several deals. The Bills roster is too deep. There will be a feeding frenzy on Bills cuts. So Beane gets something instead of just gifting players to the league. Cody Ford, Haack, Crowder….there are many potential players traded because of numbers game what other Bill do you think might get traded? I think he would be the first GM ever to trade a punter if he did that 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Ford you might get a 6th rounder lol Haack will get you a bag of kettle corn A 6th is not "lol" for someone who hasn't performed, it's better than cutting him. But yeah as for Haack, he had one of the lowest net punt averages last year (a really good offense probably didn't help on that front), so I don't see teams lining up to trade for him. You can get at least something for a mediocre player if they are at a position of desperate need, but mediocre punters are not desperately needed when a street signing will often do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: A 6th is not "lol" for someone who hasn't performed, it's better than cutting him. But yeah as for Haack, he had one of the lowest net punt averages last year (a really good offense probably didn't help on that front), so I don't see teams lining up to trade for him. You can get at least something for a mediocre player if they are at a position of desperate need, but mediocre punters are not desperately needed when a street signing will often do. It’s an lol Because we traded up into the second round to grab a terrible lineman And that’s a might… A bad GM who never watched any tape might give that up Edited August 14, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Every year this type of thread gets started and every year I rationalize why no deals are going to be made. I'm usually wrong, so I'll keep quiet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Love it if he gets something for Crowder. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, syhuang said: Zero? Like when Belichick knew Russell Bodine wouldn't make the team so he still insisted to trade a 6th round pick for him? 😎 It's not like I'm etching Zero in stone. He could certainly find a team who wants somebody and will toss a 6th or 7th for them. The point is people on here get dumb and expect Beane can just force trades for players because he wants to and it's not simply a situation of xx would be better than xx on xx team. There will be people on here getting all uppity because the Bills cut a guy "when they could have at least gotten a 7th from SOMEBODY for him." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: I'd be shocked if Kumerow or Duke could fetch a draft pick, even with Beanes prowess. Aaron Rodgers got his GM to trade a pick for Randall Cobb last year. After trading away Davonte Adams, Aaron might cry until his team trades a 7th to reunite him with Kumerow. I almost put Moss instead of Duke, but after yesterday I think Moss looked good enough to stick around. Edited August 14, 2022 by Allen2Diggs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, Allen2Diggs said: Aaron Rodgers got his GM to trade a pick for Randall Cobb last year. After trading away Davonte Adams, Aaron might cry until his team trades a 7th to reunite him with Kumerow. Would gladly take that, make it happen Beane! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 54 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Aaron Rodgers got his GM to trade a pick for Randall Cobb last year. After trading away Davonte Adams, Aaron might cry until his team trades a 7th to reunite him with Kumerow. I almost put Moss instead of Duke, but after yesterday I think Moss looked good enough to stick around. Cobb has had a very good career, 600 receptions, over 50 TD's, Kumerow really hasn't done anything as a WR. He's a special teams player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Did Beane make one last year? I don’t recall if he did but I didn’t think so. As for guys I think he could: Cody Ford: 6th rounder but prob too valuable as a backup to move for that price Zack Moss: 5th or 6th: Again not sure Beane is ready to make this move so I don’t see it necessarily. Shaq Lawson: 7th rounder. I know he’s a fan favorite but he’s squarely on the roster bubble and if the Bills can get some value than why not. Cam Lewis: 6th or 7th rounder. I think another guy the Bills would like to hold onto. The Bills have a lot of CBS this year and not sure if Lewis fits in. He has a lot of tape in real games that can be intriguing but with White, Jackson, Elam, Benford, Johnson, and Neal I don’t really see where he can fit in. Any other Olineman: Greg Van Roten, Mancz that’s a veteran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Did Beane make one last year? I don’t recall if he did but I didn’t think so. As for guys I think he could: Cody Ford: 6th rounder but prob too valuable as a backup to move for that price Zack Moss: 5th or 6th: Again not sure Beane is ready to make this move so I don’t see it necessarily. Shaq Lawson: 7th rounder. I know he’s a fan favorite but he’s squarely on the roster bubble and if the Bills can get some value than why not. Cam Lewis: 6th or 7th rounder. I think another guy the Bills would like to hold onto. The Bills have a lot of CBS this year and not sure if Lewis fits in. He has a lot of tape in real games that can be intriguing but with White, Jackson, Elam, Benford, Johnson, and Neal I don’t really see where he can fit in. Any other Olineman: Greg Van Roten, Mancz that’s a veteran. Traded DE Darryl Johnson to Carolina last year for a pick. I think it was a 6th rd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I think he’ll pull off one trade. Crowder, Haack, Kumerow, Duke, Hodgins, Ford, Van Roten. Highly doubtful, but maybe even Dane if Tre is somehow back for week 1 and elam and Benford continue to shine. Cam Lewis could then stick if they wanted to go with 6 corners. Lots of options with such a talented roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 BREAKING NEWS Pete gets traded to the Patricheats for FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Allen2Diggs said: Guys who could get cut but have some trade value: Ford Kumerow Epenesa Giles-Harris Duke Johnson Why do people think we would cut Espenesa?!?! He is on his rookie deal. Keep him cheap and let him go and someone will sign him and it "will count towards" our compensatory picks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: Highly doubtful, but maybe even Dane if Tre is somehow back for week 1 and elam and Benford continue to shine. Cam Lewis could then stick if they wanted to go with 6 corners. Highly doubtful indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, BillsFanSD said: Who is going to trade anything -- literally anything -- for Matt Haack? No offense to the guy or anything, but he's a punter and there are football fans in rural Malaysia who know that we are going to release him. Some who does wants to make sure they get him might trade for him. Once he is cut, he is a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Rico said: Love it if he gets something for Crowder. Saltine crackers and a bread bowl. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, syhuang said: Zero? Like when Belichick knew Russell Bodine wouldn't make the team so he still insisted to trade a 6th round pick for him? 😎 Exactly. A trade guarantees a team gets the player, instead of having to compete with other teams. A trade is never out of question with Beane, especially when we have good depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Pete said: Imo Beane makes several deals. The Bills roster is too deep. There will be a feeding frenzy on Bills cuts. So Beane gets something instead of just gifting players to the league. Cody Ford, Haack, Crowder….there are many potential players traded because of numbers game what other Bill do you think might get traded? No one wants Ford , he was and still is a major bust. As for trades, unless you're planning on trading Mckenzie who is pretty good there is no one of great value that is bringing any draft capital back. Crowder was a free agent and Haack was terrible last season when he had to punt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipnmi Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I think Crowder is by far the best bet to be traded. The only way to get out of his fully guaranteed contract is to trade him and there are a bunch of teams that are pretty weak at WR. He's a proven vet that will work through his current struggles and would be valuable to keep. That said, he's clearly not required based on how McKenzie, Shakir & Hodgins have all delivered. It will come down to if Beane has a way to keep 7 WR's without losing another player he really covets (Spector). I think they'll want to keep 3 TE's and the numbers at the other offensive positions are pretty straight forward. That means if they keep 7 WR's, the extra spot will probably need to be taken from the defense. Going with only 5 LB's while Smith is suspended or cutting Shaq and going with 4 DE's are 2 possibilities, but my guess is they would rather stay with 6 WR's with Kumerow or Crowder being the odd man out. Crowder's contract is not huge, which could help the trade possibilities, but they're also not in a position to eat the $3m in cap space by cutting him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I can see Beane at least trying to trade Haack. McDermott just commented: McDermott on Araiza 82 yarder: "Don't want to dismiss it... but it's just one punt. Thought Haack did a good job on his punt. Both did well." good chance he’s giving Haack a chance to show what he’s got. No way we keep both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, Flipnmi said: I think Crowder is by far the best bet to be traded. The only way to get out of his fully guaranteed contract is to trade him and there are a bunch of teams that are pretty weak at WR. He's a proven vet that will work through his current struggles and would be valuable to keep. That said, he's clearly not required based on how McKenzie, Shakir & Hodgins have all delivered. It will come down to if Beane has a way to keep 7 WR's without losing another player he really covets (Spector). I think they'll want to keep 3 TE's and the numbers at the other offensive positions are pretty straight forward. That means if they keep 7 WR's, the extra spot will probably need to be taken from the defense. Going with only 5 LB's while Smith is suspended or cutting Shaq and going with 4 DE's are 2 possibilities, but my guess is they would rather stay with 6 WR's with Kumerow or Crowder being the odd man out. Crowder's contract is not huge, which could help the trade possibilities, but they're also not in a position to eat the $3m in cap space by cutting him. I could see a team sending us a 5th-6th rounder for Mckenzie based on his game against the Pats. Not sure anyone needs or wants Crowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Why do people think we would cut Espenesa?!?! He is on his rookie deal. Keep him cheap and let him go and someone will sign him and it "will count towards" our compensatory picks. The only reason he's still on the roster is because he was a 2nd round pick. He has been absolutely invisible and he's been outplayed by Boogie Basham, who should get more reps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Pete said: Imo Beane makes several deals. The Bills roster is too deep. There will be a feeding frenzy on Bills cuts. So Beane gets something instead of just gifting players to the league. Cody Ford, Haack, Crowder….there are many potential players traded because of numbers game what other Bill do you think might get traded? Poyer? 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: Did Beane make one last year? I don’t recall if he did but I didn’t think so. As for guys I think he could: Cody Ford: 6th rounder but prob too valuable as a backup to move for that price Zack Moss: 5th or 6th: Again not sure Beane is ready to make this move so I don’t see it necessarily. Shaq Lawson: 7th rounder. I know he’s a fan favorite but he’s squarely on the roster bubble and if the Bills can get some value than why not. Cam Lewis: 6th or 7th rounder. I think another guy the Bills would like to hold onto. The Bills have a lot of CBS this year and not sure if Lewis fits in. He has a lot of tape in real games that can be intriguing but with White, Jackson, Elam, Benford, Johnson, and Neal I don’t really see where he can fit in. Any other Olineman: Greg Van Roten, Mancz that’s a veteran. I have heard next to nothing about Lawson this summer. Is this the year for Mike Love? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Ford you might get a 6th rounder lol Haack will get you a bag of kettle corn All Ford will get you is a bag of unpopped kernels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, DCbillsfan said: Traded DE Darryl Johnson to Carolina last year for a pick. I think it was a 6th rd They drafted Benford with that pick. May turn out to be a steal. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I doubt anyone is trading for a bunch of JAGs, albeit some above average JAGs. GMs will wait until they hit the market..they would rather overpay a bonus then give up one of their precious late round draft picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Ford you might get a 6th rounder lol Haack will get you a bag of kettle corn You might be right, but we all know how much Beane likes those late round picks as chips to trade up a bit to get that one guy they really like. I trust him to work a little wizardry to pick up some extra late round picks in return for guys who just won’t make our roster. Even if we are going to cut a guy, the only way you can guarantee getting him is to trade for him first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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