Bangarang Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, CSBill said: Probably. In a perfect world, they would prefer to trade him for a late round pick. Keep watch to see who gets hurt or somewhere where the projected starter is not working out. Nobody is going to trade for him. Edited August 8, 2022 by Bangarang 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, muppy said: lol someone needs to gift #17 a Harley. I mean he would look great anywhere. But put him on a bike like that I'd frame it for my wall just sayin' 🙂 For goodness sake, no donorcycle for Josh! 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 As others have said -- if the offensive line is anything less than full strength, I wouldn't play Josh for a single snap. There's always the second preseason game, if they think the "getting reps with Dorsey calling plays" thing is truly important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc said: For goodness sake, no donorcycle for Josh! Yea some idiot would throw a football(car) at him while he rides it in hopes for a signature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Doc said: For goodness sake, no donorcycle for Josh! For Photo Op purposes 🙂 Yeah he riding a motorcycle wouldnt be a good thing I dont want he hurt either 7 minutes ago, Logic said: As others have said -- if the offensive line is anything less than full strength, I wouldn't play Josh for a single snap. There's always the second preseason game, if they think the "getting reps with Dorsey calling plays" thing is truly important. the O-Line and how they will all perform together is one question mark I have. Even more than CB's and the secondary its the Bills OL that I m unsure of. WE need data hence preseason games. The cream will we all hope rise to the top and make their keep/cut decisions easier. Edited August 8, 2022 by muppy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, buffalostu2 said: But then you have a body on the roster doing nothing as the #5 WR. So why? Kumerow was on O for 116 snaps, ran 46 routes, was targeted 6 times, caught 2 for a total of 28 yards, had 1 drop that was a likely TD. —- I don’t think his 28 yards on offense will be missed. He played 15 games on STs and made 5 solo tackles, which was 6th on the team. There was a day when 5 tackles would have made him an ST ‘must keep’, but I think those days are behind us. I think Hodgins offers more upside than 28 yards and I think there are others that could kick in as much or more than 1 tackle every third game. just my opinion. I guess we’ll see. 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Logic said: As others have said -- if the offensive line is anything less than full strength, I wouldn't play Josh for a single snap. There's always the second preseason game, if they think the "getting reps with Dorsey calling plays" thing is truly important. Completely agree. My other thought on this is why give the Colts a look at Allen? The Colts are a potential playoff game for the Bills this year. I’d rather risk showing Allen versus Denver is PreSeason Week 2 than giving the Colts anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hemma Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Back2Buff Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I see no reason for Kumerow if Hodgins is proving he can play WR. I'm pretty sure Hodgins could learn to run down on STs. With a kicker than can kick it through the end zone and a punter that can kick it through the end zone too, I'm about done keeping players on a team that can only contribute on ST. I will never forget needing Kumerow in the NE game, and he came up small. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, AmishRifle said: Completely agree. My other thought on this is why give the Colts a look at Allen? The Colts are a potential playoff game for the Bills this year. I’d rather risk showing Allen versus Denver is PreSeason Week 2 than giving the Colts anything. what could possibly be gained from watching a few meaningless preseason snaps as opposed to 4 years of actual games? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, AmishRifle said: My other thought on this is why give the Colts a look at Allen? The Colts are a potential playoff game for the Bills this year. I’d rather risk showing Allen versus Denver is PreSeason Week 2 than giving the Colts anything. Denver is just as probable a playoff opponent as Indy. It doesn't make sense to have preseason matchups in-conference. I'd much rather see all NFC opponents. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It's mating season for tents. Nice little national geographic clip 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a K-Gun Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Saw Jimbo's bike at the HOF a couple weeks ago...he might need to have a conversation with Josh. Edited August 8, 2022 by Son of a K-Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Best part of this is imagining what Spencer Brown is thinking. Something like, "Are you kidding me? I'm still practically a rookie, I haven't played or practiced any football for eight months, and one of the greatest edge rushers in the history of the game is across the line of scrimmage from me, dancing? C'mon, man!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Greg S said: Here is a question leading up to the Colts game this Saturday. How much should Allen and the starters on offense play? The defense probably won't play much as they know the system/scheme from Frazier's defense minus the new additions. But a new OC, some new wrinkles to the offense. I get we don't want injuries but the offense needs the reps. Two series, maybe three at most. 2 hours ago, 17islongenough said: I don't want to Allen at all this weekend or next. The line has to be healthy for him to play. Have him play a half and maybe one series the third pre season game Play time this weekend for Josh - should be zero. I would hope for a couple of limited series week 2 and nothing at all Week 3. That gives the O-Line a week to gel with everyone back before protecting Josh in live action and then a couple of weeks after the week 2 game for players to get treatment and ready for the Rams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Son of a K-Gun said: No red helmet?? Cantaloupe farmer needs to protect his melon. Especially with fans throwing footballs At him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I know the numbers don’t work but I would really like to see Hodgens make this team if for no other reason then we drafted him and he finally looks like he’s coming around 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBill Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He was supposedly having a great camp last year. Let’s hope he makes an already crowed WR room even more competitive. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yea, I was definitely in the "Stop trying to make Hodgins happen" crowd a few weeks ago... but from all reports, this guy sounds like a legit option to take WR6. I certainly would rather bet on the potential of Hodgins vs the ceiling of what Kumerow is, if it comes down to a battle between them for the last spot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Worthington Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, hemma said: Kumerow was on O for 116 snaps, ran 46 routes, was targeted 6 times, caught 2 for a total of 28 yards, had 1 drop that was a likely TD. —- I don’t think his 28 yards on offense will be missed. He played 15 games on STs and made 5 solo tackles, which was 6th on the team. There was a day when 5 tackles would have made him an ST ‘must keep’, but I think those days are behind us. I think Hodgins offers more upside than 28 yards and I think there are others that could kick in as much or more than 1 tackle every third game. just my opinion. I guess we’ll see. Now that’s a data-driven response! Great work hemma! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Sounds like the pendulum swung back in the defenses favor today, does this mean we switch from being overly worried about the defense to being overly worried about the offense? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: He was supposedly having a great camp last year. Let’s hope he makes an already crowed WR room even more competitive. He’s had very promising camps each year...only to get injured and miss the season... If I’m not mistaken. Hopefully, he continues to improve and stays healthy! And, yes, he’ll certainly have to play Special teams to make the team. Anyone as far down on the depth chart as him has to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Is EJ Manual in the house? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Sounds like the pendulum swung back in the defenses favor today, does this mean we switch from being overly worried about the defense to being overly worried about the offense? You’re a Bills fan….. you default to worrying about everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, TBBills said: It's mating season for tents. Nice little national geographic clip Someone whose job it was to stake and weight that thing properly is handing in his or her Bills ID and getting their job hunt on right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, Warcodered said: The D is pissed they were told to lay down for the red and blue practice 😛 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: what could possibly be gained from watching a few meaningless preseason snaps as opposed to 4 years of actual games? I see your point on this but I just think it’s different watching film versus actually playing against the guy. 1 hour ago, 947 said: Denver is just as probable a playoff opponent as Indy. It doesn't make sense to have preseason matchups in-conference. I'd much rather see all NFC opponents. Totally agree that preseason should be non-conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 No Lil Dirty, no O. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 52 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Sounds like the pendulum swung back in the defenses favor today, does this mean we switch from being overly worried about the defense to being overly worried about the offense? Sounds bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, CapeBreton said: Not gonna lie...... Looking forward to punting a few times on Saturday (as long as it's Araiza doing the punting. I have no desire to see Haak ever kick a ball for us again.) 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Cynthia Frelund swiped Josh's scooter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, hemma said: If Hodgins can make it through camp without injury, imo - he finally makes the team. This is gonna be tough, nothing against him, but this wont be an easy roster to make. Obviously, Diggs and Davis are going no where, and neither is Shakir given there is 0% chance they could successfully stash him on the PS, not to mention, he has been having an outstanding camp too. McKenzie as well, he isn't likely going anywhere at this point unless Beane decides he needs to make a trade to make room for someone, then McKenzie might be the only guy who would have any trade value (as they are not trading Davis, Diggs, or Shakir). But other than that, its safe to pencil these 4 in. Then you probably still have Crowder and potentially a KR specialist. Recently McKenzie and even Shakir have taken snaps as the primary returner, so if one of them locks down the job as a primary returner, then that makes the path easier for Hodgins to make the roster. But we already know they were not happy with McKenzie last year as a returner, and while Shakir did some in college, it wasn't what he was known for. So if we keep those 4 above, plus Crowder and a KR guy, that would mean we would have to keep 7 WRs for Hodgins to have a chance to make the team. And that 7th spot will likely also have to be someone who can prove they can be a reliable contributor on ST too. So not only is Hodgins competing as a WR against guys like Tavon, Stevenson, Kumerow, Pau'u, etc...he also competing to show he can be good on ST, something Kumerow for example has already proven he can be. Ive always liked Hodgins potential, so be cool to see him keep growing and make the team. But assuming there are no injuries or surprise cuts/trades at WR, then he likely needs to see us keep 7 to a real chance to make this team, and at the same time prove he can be relied upon on ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Plus the offensive line they are trotting out there is trash. Regardless of how the season plays out I would hope Beane puts a priority on the OL for 2023 draft. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: It won't crumble without Kumerow, but there's a numbers game - the lower guys on the roster totem pole pretty much MUST play ST or there aren't enough ST bodies to put on the field without risking the starters. And last year, Kumerow came on as very good at ST. So unless Hodgins has started playing teams, his path to the 53 looks murky. Anyone know what the practice squad roster rules will be this season? From what I have been reading, Hodgins has been getting plenty of reps with Special Teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Sounds bad! Thad was drooling while writing this tweet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: No chance I’d put Josh out there behind a makeshift OL. “Don’t worry, bro. I got you.” —Bobby Hart 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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