BADOLBILZ Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: Well this story definitely has some legs now, I'm just not sure if we have the cap space to actually make it happen. My guess is McDermott and Beane will want to see if Davis takes a firm grip on the #2 role before doing anything else. If he doesn't meet expectations they can bring in OBJ in October or November. Doesn't have anything to do with Davis. When you have a player like Diggs or Cooper Kupp who can excel anywhere..........you can have a 3 high end boundary options..........because you know one of them is going to be FAR better than the guy you have in the slot. But I am sure there is someone on here who will argue that somehow Isaiah McKenzie in the slot would be better than Diggs.............because it is TSW. Edited August 8, 2022 by BADOLBILZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, SWATeam said: The nice thing is, if this were to happen, it wouldn't be like a Sanders situation where Gabe is relegated to WR3. OBJ wouldn't be ready for quite a while so we would still get to see what Gabe looks like as WR2, and then- possibly- add on another weapon. Davis wasn't simply relegated to WR3..........he was injured and it limited him for most of the first 3/4 of the regular season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Doesn't have anything to do with Davis. When you have a player like Diggs or Cooper Kupp who can excel anywhere..........you can have a 3 high end boundary options..........because you know one of them is going to be FAR better than the guy you have in the slot. But I am sure there is someone one there who will argue that somehow Isaiah McKenzie in the slot would be better than Diggs.............because it is TSW. Diggs, Davis, and a healthy OBJ in 3 WR sets? Then throw in Knox at TE? Pssshhhh. What team in the NFL is going to be able to cover them? We'd score 40 a game. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, H2o said: Diggs, Davis, and a healthy OBJ in 3 WR sets? Then throw in Knox at TE? Pssshhhh. What team in the NFL is going to be able to cover them? We'd score 40 a game. I don't know about 40.... If we average 8 possessions per game, 8x7= 56. So 56. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoSaint Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, SWATeam said: The nice thing is, if this were to happen, it wouldn't be like a Sanders situation where Gabe is relegated to WR3. OBJ wouldn't be ready for quite a while so we would still get to see what Gabe looks like as WR2, and then- possibly- add on another weapon. There is also the reality that we are unlikely to see diggs/Davis/McKenzie play 17 regular season plus multiple post season games all 100% healthy. im not dying for OBJ but I think there’s something to be said for extra depth at receiver and some extra attitude that this team should walk away with rings if they show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) Diggs, Davis, and Beckham can all play outside and in the slot. We know that all three of them are high quality outside receivers, but all three of them also can play -- and have played -- very well from the slot. 11 Personnel featuring Diggs, Davis, Beckham, Knox, and Cook ? Yeah, sign me up for that. If Beckham is healthy and ready to contribute come December and the Bills feel they can afford him, sign me up. Having "too many" weapons is a wonderful problem to have. Edited August 8, 2022 by Logic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I feel like this is just Von and He trying to get LA to come strong with an offer now. If you're OBJ, you'd get more opportunities on a team that has Allen Robinson and Van Jefferson on the outside than you will Stefon Diggs and Gabe Davis. In Buffalo, we'll want him to rotate. In LA, Jefferson takes a seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 55 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This is just part of Miller’s stealth campaign to get Haack cut. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Logic said: Diggs, Davis, and Beckham can all play outside and in the slot. We know that all three of them are high quality outside receivers, but all three of them also can play -- and have played -- very well from the slot. 11 Personnel featuring Diggs, Davis, Beckham, Knox, and Cook ? Yeah, sign me up for that. If Beckham is healthy and ready to contribute come December and the Bills feel they can afford him, sign me up. Having "too many" weapons is a wonderful problem to have. Not specifically you but I keep reading everyone hype Cook. While I hope he comes out as NFL MVP, 2000 yards and all... I am more tempered and optimistic with the late season push and upswing by Singleterry. Dude doesn't quit, has been working his ass off, and in a contract year. He does well on wheel routes and various passing. We can't sleep on him. He is going to be hungry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Bring him in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I feel like this is just Von and He trying to get LA to come strong with an offer now. If you're OBJ, you'd get more opportunities on a team that has Allen Robinson and Van Jefferson on the outside than you will Stefon Diggs and Gabe Davis. In Buffalo, we'll want him to rotate. In LA, Jefferson takes a seat. Van Jefferson had 800 yards and 6 TD last year..............he's the Rams third option behind record setting Cooper Kupp and 3x 1000 yard receiver Allen Robinson. How is a young 800 yard, high pedigree, versatile talent like Jefferson not a better player than Isaiah McKenzie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Van Jefferson had 800 yards and 6 TD last year..............he's the Rams third option behind record setting Cooper Kupp and 3x 1000 yard receiver Allen Robinson. How is a young 800 yard, high pedigree, versatile talent like Jefferson not a better player than Isaiah McKenzie? I mean maybe you can say our TE will eat up more of those than the Rams TE. So still better option b.c he would be 4th pass catcher not just 3rd WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 OK, if you insist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills fan since 87 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Depth, talent, fun. Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Not specifically you but I keep reading everyone hype Cook. While I hope he comes out as NFL MVP, 2000 yards and all... I am more tempered and optimistic with the late season push and upswing by Singleterry. Dude doesn't quit, has been working his ass off, and in a contract year. He does well on wheel routes and various passing. We can't sleep on him. He is going to be hungry. I like Singletary, and Moss for that matter. When I was speaking of that personnel set above, I was envisioning it for passing downs. I DO think Cook will be the primary receiving back. If the Bills are sending a running back out into a pattern instead of keeping him into block, it’s likely going to be Cook more often than not. That’s what he was brought in for. Cook, based on his physical skill set, is going to stress a linebacker in coverage more than Singletary or Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Van Jefferson had 800 yards and 6 TD last year..............he's the Rams third option behind record setting Cooper Kupp and 3x 1000 yard receiver Allen Robinson. How is a young 800 yard, high pedigree, versatile talent like Jefferson not a better player than Isaiah McKenzie? Jefferson got most of those numbers playing when Odell wasn't in LA. Odell only played 8 games for LA last season. When Odell arrived, Jefferson was pushed down the depth chart. I'd imagine it would be the same if he returned there. Wherein here, I don't see them reverting Davis back to the role he had before for Odell. Kupp and McKenzie work out of the Slot. Odell is an outside guy. So he's either taking a starting role or rotating with Diggs and Davis or Robinson and Jefferson. He'd get more playing time on the boundary in LA. Edited August 9, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 hours ago, JDubya76 said: Sign him, stash him on IR and activate him when he’s healthy and needed. It’ll cost us what? 4 game checks against the cap? He's a vet and whatever he signs for is guaranteed. My note: No team is going to sign him until he can pass a physical. If at that time the Bills need a WR they should look at him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) Can be dye his hair blue first? Then I might be in on this. Edited August 9, 2022 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: Can be dye his hair blue first? Red with a blue stripe down the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Davis wasn't simply relegated to WR3..........he was injured and it limited him for most of the first 3/4 of the regular season. Sanders was added to the team to be WR2 prior to any Davis injury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Red with a blue stripe down the middle. He will end up doing the Josh allen red helmet. Two blue stripes with a red down the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 1:12 PM, StHustle said: Judge him off his play with the Rams. It’s pretty much a proven fact Mayfield held his stats back by rarely hitting him when he was open. Also he will miss over half the regular season so he already knows a 1 year deal would have to be at a discount. If he goes to it’s the Bills, we won’t be able to resign him but other teams will be in line to offer him huge contracts. Being with a team almost certain to play into February is a huge selling point for a player in his shoes. You can't count on him to be available let alone look at that sample size. He was excellent in the playoffs until the injury, but he had an 80% catch rate in the playoffs when his career is basically 60. It's also a proven fact that he tore his ACL in February... and its the 2nd time he's torn it since 2020. Combine that with a high ankle sprain, broken ankle, toe sprain on that foot. He's also got a history of soft tissue injuries in hamstrings, quad, groin etc. The fact that you don't know when you can project his availability is a concern as well. 13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Jefferson got most of those numbers playing when Odell wasn't in LA. Odell only played 8 games for LA last season. When Odell arrived, Jefferson was pushed down the depth chart. I'd imagine it would be the same if he returned there. Wherein here, I don't see them reverting Davis back to the role he had before for Odell. Kupp and McKenzie work out of the Slot. Odell is an outside guy. So he's either taking a starting role or rotating with Diggs and Davis or Robinson and Jefferson. He'd get more playing time on the boundary in LA. He tore his ACL in February - even a 9 month timetable to practicing is what, november/december? He'd start season on any teams PUP, the only advantage is you get his medicals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 16 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Tens of people will get their Manuel name plate changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Sean McVay says they’re trying to get OBJ back with the Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Is there going to be a Miami boat trip before a playoff game with Davis, Diggs and Mckenzie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: 🤔 We might as well start preordering our OBJ #3 jerseys. The current #3 for the Bills is Haack. I wonder what the fans will do who own Haack jerseys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: We might as well start preordering our OBJ #3 jerseys. The current #3 for the Bills is Haack. I wonder what the fans will do who own Haack jerseys? With the exception of his family I think the amount of fans who have this jersey are.....0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Greg S said: With the exception of his family I think the amount of fans who have this jersey are.....0 Lets change that. I'll buy a Haack home jersey, you buy the away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 He tore his ACL in February, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: We might as well start preordering our OBJ #3 jerseys. The current #3 for the Bills is Haack. I wonder what the fans will do who own Haack jerseys? I turned my autographed EJ Manuel jersey I won at a charity auction into a Matt Haack jersey and wore to the game week 17. He sucked. But I wore it proudly to the playoff game the next week to show I still support him… and he was great!!! 23 minutes ago, Greg S said: With the exception of his family I think the amount of fans who have this jersey are.....0 False! But people did ask if we were related haha Edited August 11, 2022 by JGMcD2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He tore his ACL in February, right? He's supposedly on track to play in early November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Von Miller has better legs than Carrie Underwood. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He's supposedly on track to play in early November Ya so idk why everyone is talking about it - he likely stays unsigned until mid season I’m down either way he was playing solid last year and it never hurts having weapons and he is solid in red zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, mikemac2001 said: Ya so idk why everyone is talking about it - he likely stays unsigned until mid season I’m down either way he was playing solid last year and it never hurts having weapons and he is solid in red zone you sign him now so he can bond with the team and learn the playbook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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