BillsFan619 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) He’s in great company. Only Hopkins, Kupp and Adams were ranked ahead of him. Love Diggs. Love this team. We be going places, mafia. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/pff-bills-stefon-diggs-nfl-125535712.html Edited May 27, 2022 by BillsFan619 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Can't argue with that list...except maybe DeAndre Hopkins facing a suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) Adams, Hopkins, Kupp, JaMarr Chase and Justin Jefferson. Then Diggs is my list. Edited May 27, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 3 6 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Adams, Hopkins, Kupp, JaMarr Chase and Justin Jefferson. Then Diggs is my list. You have a rookie who only has 81 receptions in the NFL ahead of Diggs who, not only with his year in and year out consistency, has had over 125 receptions in one year? 1 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 He's number 2 on my list. Only behind Tyreek Hill 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: He's number 2 on my list. Only behind Tyreek Hill I think he’s better than Tyreek Hill. Don’t get me wrong, Tyreek Hill is good. That said, once his speed starts to decline with age, he doesn’t have the route running and pass catching ability that Diggs has. Not even close. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: You have a rookie who only has 81 receptions in the NFL ahead of Diggs who, not only with his year in and year out consistency, has had over 125 receptions in one year? Yes. He’s a more dynamic player already. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 After Hopkins' season last year and the suspension, he shouldn't be on the list. Hill should be, but probably gets dinged because of his QB? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: He's number 2 on my list. Only behind Tyreek Hill What put him on your 💩 list? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 7 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: You have a rookie who only has 81 receptions in the NFL ahead of Diggs who, not only with his year in and year out consistency, has had over 125 receptions in one year? Chase is one of the few receivers I’d trade Diggs for. I know it’s blasphemous to speak against your own superstar, but that guy is scary explosive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 7 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: I think he’s better than Tyreek Hill. Don’t get me wrong, Tyreek Hill is good. That said, once his speed starts to decline with age, he doesn’t have the route running and pass catching ability that Diggs has. Not even close. This is absolutely false. Hill is an outstanding route runner. I will never understand why people here keep saying this. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 7 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: He's number 2 on my list. Only behind Tyreek Hill On what planet is Hill better than Adams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Weird to argue WR rankings amongst the premium tier likes of Hill, Adams, Kupp, Hopkins, Chase, Jefferson, Diggs, Evans, etc., given how uniquely gifted each guy is on that list. Celebrating one does not necessarily denigrate another. Could also probably toss in a few more prominent WRs (Brown, Thielen, Metcalf, Robinson, Samuel, and McLauren) to create a dangerous top-10/15. Of that cohort, only Tyreek Hill has coverage-busting cheetah wheels. The cheat code. Joystick movement skills. Paired with Jaylen Waddle, they could be a problematic duo to defend against, especially if Miami establishes its zone run schemes and play action concepts. Preston Williams has always struck me as more talented than he's shown, to be fair. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Receivers are only as good as the guy throwing the ball. Lets see how good Adams is with Carr instead of Rodgers. Lets see how good Hill is with Tua instead of Mahomes. I guarantee those guys will see a dip in production. Chase is impressive and he has the QB but lets see him do it more than just one season. Now Jefferson is scary. Cousins is not a scrub but he's not elite either and Jefferson would probably top 2k with someone like Josh, Mahomes or ARod. John Brown with Allen= Career year. Diggs with Allen= Career year. Beasley with Allen= Career year. Kupp with Stafford= Career year. See what I'm getting at? To me its, Adams Hopkins Diggs Hill Kupp Jefferson Chase JMHO of course.... 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 12 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: I think he’s better than Tyreek Hill. Don’t get me wrong, Tyreek Hill is good. That said, once his speed starts to decline with age, he doesn’t have the route running and pass catching ability that Diggs has. Not even close. No…no he’s not. He’s a better person than Tyreek, that’s not disputable but Reek is arguably the most athletic freak of a human to ever play the sport. 4 hours ago, Starr Almighty said: On what planet is Hill better than Adams? Earth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 People act like I said Sammy Watkins is better than Diggs. Lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Antonio Brown just saw the list, and has walked off. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 5 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Receivers are only as good as the guy throwing the ball. Lets see how good Adams is with Carr instead of Rodgers. Lets see how good Hill is with Tua instead of Mahomes. I guarantee those guys will see a dip in production. Chase is impressive and he has the QB but lets see him do it more than just one season. Now Jefferson is scary. Cousins is not a scrub but he's not elite either and Jefferson would probably top 2k with someone like Josh, Mahomes or ARod. John Brown with Allen= Career year. Diggs with Allen= Career year. Beasley with Allen= Career year. Kupp with Stafford= Career year. See what I'm getting at? To me its, Adams Hopkins Diggs Hill Kupp Jefferson Chase JMHO of course.... I do think Kupp is too low on your list, he had over 300 more yards than the next closest receiver last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I think the top about 8 guys are defined by their offense, basically trade them all around and the numbers go up or down mainly based on the team, not them. These dudes get open and are awesome but who is getting them the ball 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: People act like I said Sammy Watkins is better than Diggs. Lol. My gripe would be let’s just see chase string together a couple years before we’re putting him above perennial pro bowler/all pro. that seems sorta obvious to me. Personally I think Adams is the top dog until proven otherwise and the next 5-6 dudes can all switch places depending on the debate. Just happy we have a top 5 caliber guy. Edited May 28, 2022 by Stank_Nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 17 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: You have a rookie who only has 81 receptions in the NFL ahead of Diggs who, not only with his year in and year out consistency, has had over 125 receptions in one year? How about accounting for the fact the guy was a rookie and managed how many yards on those 81 catches? Chase is more physically gifted, and already performing at an insane level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 6 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Receivers are only as good as the guy throwing the ball. Lets see how good Adams is with Carr instead of Rodgers. Lets see how good Hill is with Tua instead of Mahomes. I guarantee those guys will see a dip in production. Chase is impressive and he has the QB but lets see him do it more than just one season. Now Jefferson is scary. Cousins is not a scrub but he's not elite either and Jefferson would probably top 2k with someone like Josh, Mahomes or ARod. John Brown with Allen= Career year. Diggs with Allen= Career year. Beasley with Allen= Career year. Kupp with Stafford= Career year. See what I'm getting at? To me its, Adams Hopkins Diggs Hill Kupp Jefferson Chase JMHO of course.... Not with all WRs. Some of them make their QBs better. Diggs was productive in Minnesota with Bridgewater, Keenum and Cousins. I could even be forgetting a name in there. I would argue, Diggs made all of these players better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Jefferson has over 3000 yards in his 1st 2 seasons. I take him over Hopkins in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) Tyreek Hill is the one I’d be most worried about giving a long term contract to, as hes elite due to his insane speed..and ability to translate that speed into his route running. That being said, until that speed declines, Tyreek Hill is the best WR in football. Almost could put him in a different category called “game breaker”. Adams & Diggs., are more complete inside/outside WR’s who will both likely age gracefully into their 30’s. Kupp is unstoppable out of the slot at times. Hop is definitely in that group, but he has some weird vibes and I just don’t know about him staying healthy/focused enough to remain in this group. Chase & Jefferson also belong in Tier 1, but it takes time to overtake the guys who have been doing it longer. Edited May 28, 2022 by SCBills 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: People act like I said Sammy Watkins is better than Diggs. Lol. The tribalism amongst football fans is real. Being anywhere in the top 7 or 8 of WRs is high praise. The league is LOADED with talent at the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) Hopkins has lost a step and shouldn't be in the conversation for Tier 1. Anyone who watched him play in Arizona last year will tell you he pretty much became a TD machine and wasn't creating seperation like he used to. The tricky part about the WRs is a few of them have new QBS For me: 1. Hill 2. Kupp 3. Adams 4. Jefferson 5. Chase 6. Diggs 7. Samuel I think that's Tier 1 and then you start talking about Hopkins, Brown, Evans, Allen, Metcalf, McLaurin, Higgins Edited May 28, 2022 by dma0034 Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, dma0034 said: Hopkins has lost a step and shouldn't be in the conversation for Tier 1. Anyone who watched him play in Arizona last year will tell you he pretty much became a TD machine and wasn't creating seperation like he used to. The tricky part about the WRs is a few of them have new QBS For me: 1. Hill 2. Kupp 3. Adams 4. Jefferson 5. Chase 6. Diggs 7. Samuel I think that's Tier 1 and then you start talking about Hopkins, Brown, Evans, Allen, Metcalf, McLaurin, Higgins Mike Evans is undoubtedly tier 1. Probably the most underrated/under-appreciated future Hall of Famer playing today. *You may be right about DeAndre, but also keep in mind that Hop was playing injured last season. I'd imagine his current suspension was due to, in part, trying to aid in his recovery. Edited May 28, 2022 by Chicken Boo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 All good discussion, but I think it’s very fair Diggs ended up in the 4th spot. I think he’ll end up higher after this year as he may share some receptions increased with the TE’s, but then he’ll also increase due to losing Beasely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I think the top about 8 guys are defined by their offense, basically trade them all around and the numbers go up or down mainly based on the team, not them. These dudes get open and are awesome but who is getting them the ball That and what other weapons are around? That can help and hurt. GB had Adams and a bunch of marginal WRs and some good RBs. Adams might have had to work harder to get open, but he was fed the ball. With the Raiders it should be easier, but the Raiders have a lot of mouths to feed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: All good discussion, but I think it’s very fair Diggs ended up in the 4th spot. I think he’ll end up higher after this year as he may share some receptions increased with the TE’s, but then he’ll also increase due to losing Beasely. I still think Bills fans are overlooking the Crowder signing. There were a lot of alpha WRs moved (Adams/ Brown etc) but Crowder was a sneaky good pick up, like KC getting Smith-Shuster. Crowder should be close to a zero sum difference. Josh and Crowder just need to develop that connection. I did a comparison a month or so back and Crowder's numbers are very close to what Beasley had before becoming a Buffalo Bill. Davis outside should be right around the #2 WR production we have had from Sanders and Brown as WR#2. Maybe better, he is younger than Brown or Sanders by a wide margin. I don;t know if Sanders got dinged up last year or just ran out of gas, but his production slipped in the second half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Need to switch Hopkins with Justin Jefferson. He was already having a bum year before his injury, and now he’s gonna be 30 years old coming off a torn MCL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) I'll take a stab at this... Looking at basic WR stats alone (receptions, yards, and TDs) In 2021, only 5 wide receivers placed in the top 10 for each: recs, yds, and TDs: Cooper Kupp, Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Justin Jefferson, and Stefon Diggs In 2020, only 2 wide receivers placed in the top 10 for each: recs, yds, and TDs: Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill (Diggs was close though as he was #1 in receptions, #1 in yards, but only 13th in TDs) So, if we are looking at just statistical production, not projections for 2022, it would be hard not to say that the best WRs over the last two years are: Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill, and Stefon Diggs Then Kupp and Jefferson As far as projections: -Yes, Hill and Adams have new QBs. Adams might be ok with Carr, but I think Cheetah's production will definitely suffer with Tua -Kupp, Jefferson, and Diggs all keep their QB -Where does Deebo Samuel end up? But can't ignore his yards from scrimmage last year -Chase burst onto the scene last year (ranking 4th in yards and 2nd in TDs) and has a good QB -The only other receivers to place in the top 10 for 2 of the three categories last year were Hunter Renfrow and Diontae Johnson (but Renfrow will lose targets to Adams this year, and Johnson will have Trubisky/rookie as his QB) So, imo, there is currently a top seven as the top tier of NFL WRs heading into 2022 (ranked in my very speculative projections for 2022): Cooper Kupp Davante Adams Jamar Chase Stefon Diggs Justin Jefferson Deebo Samuel Tyreek Hill (rank due to QB) Next tier for me (to round out a top 15...and in no particular order): Chris Godwin (if back ok from injury) D. J. Moore (keeps producing despite weak QBs) A. J. Brown Michael Pittman Mike Evans Keenan Allen CeeDee Lamb Diontae Johnson (other considerations): D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett (Worried about their QB situation) Hopkins (fading imo and suspension will keep him out of 2022 stats leaders). Edited May 28, 2022 by folz 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I feel like one guy we don't see mentioned enough on these top WR lists is Mike Evans. He averages 75 receptions for 1100 yards and 9 TDs a season. He's also racked up 1000 receiving yards in each of his first eight seasons and I think he's the only player that's ever done that. He's been steady and consistent despite inconsistent QB play. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Watkins101 said: I do think Kupp is too low on your list, he had over 300 more yards than the next closest receiver last year. True but it's only the 2nd time he's gone over 1k in 5 seasons and it took the acquisition of Stafford to get him there. I'm judging by history, reputation and QB, not just last years body of work. Nice player no doubt. Like I said, JMHO. 2 minutes ago, blacklabel said: I feel like one guy we don't see mentioned enough on these top WR lists is Mike Evans. He averages 75 receptions for 1100 yards and 9 TDs a season. He's also racked up 1000 receiving yards in each of his first eight seasons and I think he's the only player that's ever done that. He's been steady and consistent despite inconsistent QB play. Good call. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not a chance… Diggs was completely shut down in the Divisional game. Despite all the attention on Hill, he still puts up huge numbers. You can slow him down with a good defensive game plan. To me that was more a product of superior coaching. Diggs and Knox destroyed KC in Week 5 and Reid made sure that didn't happen again. They were non existent in the playoff game as you said. Had they a scheme in place to at least limit Hill like Cincy did we might have a Lombardi. This may be blasphemy for some here but I think this team will be better moving forward without Levi Wallace. Good player but abused too often against better QBs, especially when he's isolated with little Safety help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: I still think Bills fans are overlooking the Crowder signing. There were a lot of alpha WRs moved (Adams/ Brown etc) but Crowder was a sneaky good pick up, like KC getting Smith-Shuster. Crowder should be close to a zero sum difference. Josh and Crowder just need to develop that connection. I did a comparison a month or so back and Crowder's numbers are very close to what Beasley had before becoming a Buffalo Bill. Davis outside should be right around the #2 WR production we have had from Sanders and Brown as WR#2. Maybe better, he is younger than Brown or Sanders by a wide margin. I don;t know if Sanders got dinged up last year or just ran out of gas, but his production slipped in the second half of the season. Agree on Crowder. As for Smith-Shuster, I'd agree if Hill were still there. 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Not a chance… Diggs was completely shut down in the Divisional game. Despite all the attention on Hill, he still puts up huge numbers. Yeah and as a result, Gabe Davis had possibly one of the greatest games ever by a WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Mike Evans is undoubtedly tier 1. Probably the most underrated/under-appreciated future Hall of Famer playing today. *You may be right about DeAndre, but also keep in mind that Hop was playing injured last season. I'd imagine his current suspension was due to, in part, trying to aid in his recovery. He'll have to play many many more "todays" to get in the HOF. For receivers, it's all about the yards. Ahead of him and not yet in the the HOF (current and former players) include: Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall, AB, Julio Jones, Tory Holt, Boldin, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith and Larry Fitzgerald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He'll have to play many many more "todays" to get in the HOF. For receivers, it's all about the yards. Ahead of him and not yet in the the HOF (current and former players) include: Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall, AB, Julio Jones, Tory Holt, Boldin, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith and Larry Fitzgerald. I hear ya, but barring injury he'll accumulate the stats to get in in about 3 seasons. Evans is currently only 10 TDs off of guys like Hines Ward, Brandon Marshall and Steve Smith and he's already ahead of Holt, Andre Johnson and Julio. He also has a Super Bowl ring, which some of the others do not. It's looking like he'll finish his career as only the 9th WR in history with 100+ TDs and then there's the 1,000 yard streak. He may have a wait, but he'll get in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 WR is one of those positions in the NFL where just being top 10 means you are damn good. I have no idea how anyone could sort out the top or so 6 in any kind of firm order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 We are about to find out how much Aaron Rodgers helped Adams in Green Bay. Selfishly I am rooting for Adams, AJ Brown and Hill to all have down years because I think the WR market has gone insane and still think it is mostly about the QB. That said, Carr isn’t some journeyman level QB. He is certainly capable of producing big numbers with Adams. Heck, they did it together back at Fresno State. I like Carr too so it would be nice to see him do well. Especially in that division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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