Bears sign Nate Peterman

[H2o]

7 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

My comment was more of a nod to how pathetic Peterman was than anything else, however thinking back to Josh’s rookie year, don’t you think it would have been better to have Kaep as a bridge QB until Josh was ready than having Peterman suck for a half of one game, then have to throw Josh out there right away? At that time Kaep was a way better option than Peterman IMO.

 

Kaep was blackballed by the NFL not because of racism, it’s because he knelt for the National Anthem...now is kneeling  for the anthem the best way to get your point across.....probably not, but it also doesn’t deserve the punishment of being completely shut out by the NFL.

I will not defend Peterman. We all saw first hand how bad he was. Kaep was not blackballed because of racism. That's just an excuse everyone runs to. Denver was going to take him, even after kneeling, but wanted him to take a pay cut on a prove it type of scenario. He declined, the trade never happened, and he asked for his release from the 49ers. Seattle had offered him a backup job at one point and he declined because of money again. Don't pretend he didn't have options to continue playing or get back in the NFL. Let's also not forget that Kaep originally sat down on the bench for the anthem. He didn't start kneeling to draw attention to himself until after he had lost his starting gig to Blaine Gabbert. Kudos to him, his agent, and his girlfriend for throwing a spin on it real quick and capitalizing on the media attention. He's made more $$$ away from football than he would have playing the game with his lawsuits, endorsements, and other endeavors. In everything he did after that, portraying himself as a martyr and playing politics, of course they aren't going to be ringing his phone off the hook. Add to that the fact he was a 58% career completion guy, who was a system QB, and relied on his legs more than his arm. No one is going to be worried about him, especially since he was on the wrong side of 30 and the fact he would bring a circus with him. 

[Mark Vader]

18 hours ago, Utah John said:

It isn't racism, exactly.  There are more black QBs in the league than I can count without doing more work than I want to.  Kaepernick is being blackballed because he insisted on bringing attention to a problem the NFL wanted kept quiet, and because a third of America foolishly believes everything Trump says.  Trump used Kaepernick's protest as one of his many wedge issues, and his followers lapped it up.  And now the cold-eyed NFL figures bringing Kaepernick back would not gain it anything and would cost it a lot of Trump's followers.  For a heartless, soulless, amoral league, this is an easy decision.

Kaepernick's problems he brought on himself. He is an attention *****.

Still to this day, he has done nothing of real significance to make changes in this country with the issues that face us.

 

As for his abilities as a QB, opposing defenses figured out his game, and he began to struggle.

Then the 49'ers foolishly did not retain Jim Harbaugh as their head coach. You think that wasn't a big issue for Kaepernick?

 

Then there were all of those farcical workouts he did. He was not interested in coming back to the NFL or to play football.

Vince McMahon tried to get Kaepernick to play for the XFL, but Kaepernick would only do it if he got $20 million!

Give me a break with this guy. He is not a victim.

[Bronxbomber21]

Peterman's Agent is the MVP. He might have more magic then Beane when it comes to wizardry 

[Special K]

43 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I think Josh got a lot more out of playing in 12 games his rookie year than sitting on the bench.  Because of his drive, keeping a healthy Josh on the bench would not have helped him.  He had to make his rookie mistakes & learn what not to do.  You don't get game experience on the bench.  

 

I agree that Josh should have been out there as soon as he was ready, but I’m sure McBeane would have preferred to get at least 4 games into the season before putting Josh into the starting lineup. Why they thought they could get 4 games out of Peterman is beyond me. It’s one of the weirdest and most naive decisions of the McBeane era.

 

Thankfully, Josh Allen became the Josh Allen we see today, and the Bills don’t have to worry about the QB position for years to come!!

Edited May 12, 2022 by Special K

[Special K]

12 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

I think that’s the big miss a lot of people have. The media circus that will follow wherever he goes is a big pain for the whole team. 

 

That might be true, but it’s pretty sad that there is more moral outrage for a guy that kneels for the anthem, then for the multitude of players, black and white, who beat their wives/girlfriends/kids, rape women, or threaten people with guns.......just sayin’.

[Rc2catch]

22 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

That might be true, but it’s pretty sad that there is more moral outrage for a guy that kneels for the anthem, then for the multitude of players, black and white, who beat their wives/girlfriends/kids, rape women, or threaten people with guns.......just sayin’.

You ain’t wrong there. I have no dispute 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Special K said:

 

My comment was more of a nod to how pathetic Peterman was than anything else, however thinking back to Josh’s rookie year, don’t you think it would have been better to have Kaep as a bridge QB until Josh was ready than having Peterman suck for a half of one game, then have to throw Josh out there right away? At that time Kaep was a way better option than Peterman IMO.

 

Kaep was blackballed by the NFL not because of racism, it’s because he knelt for the National Anthem...now is kneeling  for the anthem the best way to get your point across.....probably not, but it also doesn’t deserve the punishment of being completely shut out by the NFL.

 

 

Absolutely not!  McD's bizzaro "QB competition", which NP "won" mercifully lasted until halftime of Week 1, before he came to his senses and understood the obvious:  your #7 1st round draft pick QB plays his rookie season.

 

Josh played and the rest is history.

[billybrew1]

21 hours ago, Greg S said:

(13) Tom Pelissero on Twitter: "Free-agent QB Nathan Peterman is signing a one-year contract with the #Bears, per source. Peterman — who opened the 2018 season as the #Bills’ starter ahead of Josh Allen — spent the last few seasons with the #Raiders. Now, he joins Justin Fields and Trevor Siemian in Chicago." / Twitter

That was us not too long ago…. Can you imagine the fans in Chicago?

yeah!

[Marv's Neighbor]

Vikings, Lions & Packers fans are cheering!

[frostbitmic]

He's an NFL QB... I don't think anyone here can say that.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Eberflus just dying to march NPeterman up to the Bears #1 QB and say 🎶"Now may I introduce to you, the one and only Justin Fields!"🎵

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Soooooo....Nate Peterman has a new team, but Josh Rosen is still a free agent?

 

Huh.

[machine gun kelly]

As if the Bears weren’t bad enough.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Soooooo....Nate Peterman has a new team, but Josh Rosen is still a free agent?

 

Huh.

Yes, but Rosen and Peterman are about as different as Goofus and Gallant from Highlights magazine, like teef has in his office.  Oh wait, teef got rid of Highlights and replaced it with subscriptions to True Crime.  'Aaron Schobel: My Life in Stir!' 🤨

*
"Josh Rosen insults organizations that didn't draft him.  Nate Peterman washes dishes in the team training camp's kitchen after meals." 

[The Red King]

Peterman has a good head for the game and a good attitude.  Makes for a good clipboard holder.  Just a shame he doesn't have the arm strength for the job.

Edited May 13, 2022 by The Red King

[beerme1]

Peterman is there for one of two reasons. To hold a clipboard or throw interceptions.

[GunnerBill]

On 5/12/2022 at 4:46 PM, H2o said:

I will not defend Peterman. We all saw first hand how bad he was. Kaep was not blackballed because of racism. That's just an excuse everyone runs to. Denver was going to take him, even after kneeling, but wanted him to take a pay cut on a prove it type of scenario. He declined, the trade never happened, and he asked for his release from the 49ers. Seattle had offered him a backup job at one point and he declined because of money again. Don't pretend he didn't have options to continue playing or get back in the NFL. Let's also not forget that Kaep originally sat down on the bench for the anthem. He didn't start kneeling to draw attention to himself until after he had lost his starting gig to Blaine Gabbert. Kudos to him, his agent, and his girlfriend for throwing a spin on it real quick and capitalizing on the media attention. He's made more $$$ away from football than he would have playing the game with his lawsuits, endorsements, and other endeavors. In everything he did after that, portraying himself as a martyr and playing politics, of course they aren't going to be ringing his phone off the hook. Add to that the fact he was a 58% career completion guy, who was a system QB, and relied on his legs more than his arm. No one is going to be worried about him, especially since he was on the wrong side of 30 and the fact he would bring a circus with him. 

 

That isn't quite true. He stopped sitting and starting kneeling after a chat with Nate Boyer who was an army vet or a marine vet who advised him kneeling was less disrespectful. Though I do agree Kap could have had a backup job since then in the league had he swallowed his pride money wise.

On 5/13/2022 at 4:51 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Soooooo....Nate Peterman has a new team, but Josh Rosen is still a free agent?

 

Huh.

 

Nate Peterman still being in the league baffles me. He is legitmately terrible at his job. 

[Punching Bag]

He will do okay as a camp practice arm but will need another QB to get players up to game speed.

[Warcodered]

4 hours ago, beerme1 said:

Peterman is there for one of two reasons. To hold a clipboard or throw interceptions.

and he's all out of clipboards.

[BillsShredder83]

On 5/11/2022 at 4:38 PM, kenny3000 said:

omg, it’s almost criminal that this guy can get signed before someone like CK who is just much, much, much, much, much better than him. This racism is very real. 

Kaep has and never has had any real desire to get back in the nfl. 

Hard to blame him when he can milk Nike contracts, while turning a blind eye to Asian children sewing their finger tips off for 5cents an hour 😆 dudes a joke

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 5/12/2022 at 11:27 AM, Special K said:

That might be true, but it’s pretty sad that there is more moral outrage for a guy that kneels for the anthem, then for the multitude of players, black and white, who beat their wives/girlfriends/kids, rape women, or threaten people with guns.......just sayin’.

 

I See No Lies

[Punching Bag]

On 5/12/2022 at 12:27 PM, Special K said:

 

That might be true, but it’s pretty sad that there is more moral outrage for a guy that kneels for the anthem, then for the multitude of players, black and white, who beat their wives/girlfriends/kids, rape women, or threaten people with guns.......just sayin’.

 

I question the use of "moral" in that sentence. 

[Lfod]

Nate Peterman still getting work? Some one better remind me that Colin Kaepernick still isn't getting a shot. 

[Richard Noggin]

On 5/12/2022 at 11:46 AM, H2o said:

I will not defend Peterman. We all saw first hand how bad he was. Kaep was not blackballed because of racism. That's just an excuse everyone runs to. Denver was going to take him, even after kneeling, but wanted him to take a pay cut on a prove it type of scenario. He declined, the trade never happened, and he asked for his release from the 49ers. Seattle had offered him a backup job at one point and he declined because of money again. Don't pretend he didn't have options to continue playing or get back in the NFL. Let's also not forget that Kaep originally sat down on the bench for the anthem. He didn't start kneeling to draw attention to himself until after he had lost his starting gig to Blaine Gabbert. Kudos to him, his agent, and his girlfriend for throwing a spin on it real quick and capitalizing on the media attention. He's made more $$$ away from football than he would have playing the game with his lawsuits, endorsements, and other endeavors. In everything he did after that, portraying himself as a martyr and playing politics, of course they aren't going to be ringing his phone off the hook. Add to that the fact he was a 58% career completion guy, who was a system QB, and relied on his legs more than his arm. No one is going to be worried about him, especially since he was on the wrong side of 30 and the fact he would bring a circus with him. 

 

Actually, you're wrong about Kaep's progression of protest. He originally sat down on the bench, yes. But he started KNEELING based upon his consultations with a former special ops vet teammate, Nate Boyer, who suggested kneeling as a more noble/respectful gesture. The kneeling was intentionally meant to be effing respectful, because taking a knee IS IN FACT A RESPECTFUL GESTURE. The cultural outrage over this gesture is objectively NOT genuine. 

 

To be fair, though, positing a parallel between Nate Peterman signing for some minimum backup/camp arm deal in 2022 and Colin Kaepernick NOT signing suddenly, 5 years removed from playing, for something more akin to definite team TOP 2 QB depth chart money/opportunity is not exactly free of pre-existing agenda. 

 

I hate how Kaep became a pariah for his intentionally respectful and ultimately widespread method of protest, but I can't ignore his own initial reluctance to accept a significantly reduced-market value contract once things went south. It's not fair that he was so significantly downgraded so swiftly, but it's part of the complicated equation. I'm guessing he wouldn't allow himself to be lumped in with the Nate Petersons of the NFL landscape, and that prevented him from getting a foot in the door.

Edited May 16, 2022 by Richard Noggin

[H2o]

8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Actually, you're wrong about Kaep's progression of protest. He originally sat down on the bench, yes. But he started KNEELING based upon his consultations with a former special ops vet teammate, Nate Boyer, who suggested kneeling as a more noble/respectful gesture. The kneeling was intentionally meant to be effing respectful, because taking a knee IS IN FACT A RESPECTFUL GESTURE. The cultural outrage over this gesture is objectively NOT genuine. 

 

To be fair, though, positing a parallel between Nate Peterman signing for some minimum backup/camp arm deal in 2022 and Colin Kaepernick NOT signing suddenly, 5 years removed from playing, for something more akin to definite team TOP 2 QB depth chart money/opportunity is not exactly free of pre-existing agenda. 

 

I hate how Kaep became a pariah for his intentionally respectful and ultimately widespread method of protest, but I can't ignore his own initial reluctance to accept a significantly reduced-market value contract once things went south. It's not fair that he was so significantly downgraded so swiftly, but it's part of the complicated equation. I'm guessing he wouldn't allow himself to be lumped in with the Nate Petersons of the NFL landscape, and that prevented him from getting a foot in the door.

 

On 5/12/2022 at 9:36 AM, H2o said:

 

Exhibit A by the NFL: 

 

Josh Johnson, Tyler Huntley, Geno Smith, Jacoby Brissett, Josh Dobbs, Tyrod Taylor, Jordan Love, Kellen Mond, Feleipe Franks, PJ Walker. 

 

These are all QB's currently in the NFL that people on the Kaep hype train would argue he is better than, though he probably is not at this point. It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with the fact he is 35, hasn't played in 6 years, only boasted a 58% career completion percentage prior to, and isn't worth the circus it would likely create. 

The post I quoted under yours was the original one I posted when people want to say it's because of "racism" he isn't in the league. I've heard the story about his conversation Nate Boyer, but his move was to draw attention to himself. He, his agent, and gf played the situation perfectly. Kaep was raised in the suburbs by his WHITE adoptive parents in Turlock, CA. He isn't from the southside of Chicago, or Jamaica Queens, or Compton, or Detroit, or any other place with high crime rates and first hand encounters of such situations. It was his ploy to make himself a face of something, anything, because he wasn't going to be the face of the 49ers or any other franchise. Kaep was/is clearly better than Peterman, but there's also something to say about what type of teammates people are and how they carry themselves. The reports about Nate have always been good, but his talent just is that of a 3rd string QB. What is Colin actually bringing to a QB room? Like I said before, he was a system QB, with a 58% career completion percentage, who relied on his legs more than his arm. Everything that he did outside of the game, with his supposed "attempts" to get back in the game, have all been more attention grabs and side circuses. His workout he scheduled, then moved because he wouldn't sign a standard waiver, and then gave his little speech afterwards portraying himself as some kind of martyr. Acting like playing football should be his right and teams should be obligated to sign him. The fact that he had already turned down offers was against him too. The side circus he would bring with him is another distraction. All of these things contributed to where he is at. Even still, he parlayed everything he has done into more $$$ than he would have seen playing in the NFL. The ship has sailed, all of the news is just rehashed, and his time passed long ago. People should really let it go. You see all kinds of "villains" and suspect people in sports. Many of them are still playing. You know why? Because those teams see the talent and ability as worth the perception or press battles they will have to fight. Kaepernick's talent level wasn't worth it or he'd still be in the league.  

Edited May 16, 2022 by H2o

[Gugny]

On 5/11/2022 at 3:18 PM, dwight in philly said:

I am quite sure I am in the minority , but Peterman  just seemed like a victim of "bad luck" , for lack of a better term, in the SD game. Stuff happens, maybe he just "doesnt have it" , but so be it.. easy to pile on.. 

 

I will never stop believing that the O Line did not block for him in that SD game.

[FilthyBeast]

12 hours ago, Lfod said:

Nate Peterman still getting work? Some one better remind me that Colin Kaepernick still isn't getting a shot. 

 

Some day people are going to look past the politics/kneeling stuff and realize that Kaepernick was never a good NFL QB and another run of the mill back up type.

 

Better than Peterman? Sure, but there's a reason this guy has long been out of the league if you look closely.

[aristocrat]

Does Peterman still have the 2 worst games in nfl history?

[Punching Bag]

14 hours ago, Lfod said:

Nate Peterman still getting work? Some one better remind me that Colin Kaepernick still isn't getting a shot. 

 

Colin Kaepernick is not willing to go into camp as 3rd QB and likely to be cut and put on practice squad but you knew that right?

[Fan in Chicago]

On 5/14/2022 at 3:58 PM, beerme1 said:

Peterman is there for one of two reasons. To hold a clipboard or throw interceptions.

You mean that in TC, the DB that doesn't intercept Peterman is cut? 😁

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 5/12/2022 at 12:27 PM, Special K said:

 

That might be true, but it’s pretty sad that there is more moral outrage for a guy that kneels for the anthem, then for the multitude of players, black and white, who beat their wives/girlfriends/kids, rape women, or threaten people with guns.......just sayin’.

It’s a weird dynamic to be sure.  On the other hand, it does show exactly what the franchises view as an unacceptable risk to reward ratio.  

[The Red King]

Fair or not, Kap brings a real threat to any team that brings him in.  Let's say you bring him in as a starter.  If he struggles and you put your backup in, can you imagine the backlash?  You'd be called a racist, told the move was racially motivated and so on.

 

Likewise, if you bring him in as a backup there will be calls from some circles to put Kap in the moment the starter struggles.  And if you don't the race card would be put in play with people accusing you of being racist.

 

It's a headache for any franchise.  Why would they risk it.

[Punching Bag]

19 hours ago, The Red King said:

Fair or not, Kap brings a real threat to any team that brings him in.  Let's say you bring him in as a starter.  If he struggles and you put your backup in, can you imagine the backlash?  You'd be called a racist, told the move was racially motivated and so on.

 

Likewise, if you bring him in as a backup there will be calls from some circles to put Kap in the moment the starter struggles.  And if you don't the race card would be put in play with people accusing you of being racist.

 

It's a headache for any franchise.  Why would they risk it.

 

It appears to satisfy Kap supporters that the NFL should have a lottery.  Have balls for each team put in with number of balls in reverse ratio to draft order (1 ball for Rams to 32 balls for Jaguars).  Balls are spun by a certified company not connected to NFL and Cam is given a contract for one year to that team PAID FOR BY NFL.  The team also gets an extra roster slot when he is on roster and one more for game days.  This would help team absorbing him deflect issues to NFL since they could say it was their decision to place him on team.  He could be traded to another team with his agreement and they would get the extra slot, salary paid by NFL, etc.

 

A well managed team finds way to use him even if he is just holder on FGs giving them capability for trick plays.  

A poorly managed team just demonstrates that they are a poorly managed team.

Cam could demonstrate that he could be an asset to a team without being a distraction and that he still wants to play NFL Football.

[The Red King]

12 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

It appears to satisfy Kap supporters that the NFL should have a lottery.  Have balls for each team put in with number of balls in reverse ratio to draft order (1 ball for Rams to 32 balls for Jaguars).  Balls are spun by a certified company not connected to NFL and Cam is given a contract for one year to that team PAID FOR BY NFL.  The team also gets an extra roster slot when he is on roster and one more for game days.  This would help team absorbing him deflect issues to NFL since they could say it was their decision to place him on team.  He could be traded to another team with his agreement and they would get the extra slot, salary paid by NFL, etc.

 

A well managed team finds way to use him even if he is just holder on FGs giving them capability for trick plays.  

A poorly managed team just demonstrates that they are a poorly managed team.

Cam could demonstrate that he could be an asset to a team without being a distraction and that he still wants to play NFL Football.

 

Understood, but that doesn't address the issues I noted.  The minute the starter falters Kap's supporters will call for him to go in, and rampage if that doesn't happen.  Having him on the team is an automatic QB controversy at this point.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 5/11/2022 at 4:20 PM, gonzo1105 said:

Man backup QBs just have a way of sticking in the league. Hell prob have a 10 year career of being below average, save his body, and have a comfortable nest egg to fall back on 

He made almost 5 mil already!!

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 5/16/2022 at 1:14 AM, Lfod said:

Nate Peterman still getting work? Some one better remind me that Colin Kaepernick still isn't getting a shot. 

 

seems like you already remembered 

[fergie's ire]

On 5/11/2022 at 6:48 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

That guy sucks.

Good to have you back, Kirby.  Nate Peterman threads aren't the same without you.