Logic Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I wasn't here to discuss the pick last night, and I haven't combed through all 21 pages, so perhaps this has been said, but... The Bills decided last year in the second regular season Patriots game that the primary way they were gonna beat two-high coverage going forward was to throw checkdowns and dumpoffs and utilize the running back in the passing game. They said "to hell with running the defense out of it, we're gonna THROW them out of it by utilizing the vacated space in the middle of the field". Josh was patient and hit Singletary a bunch, the plan worked, and the Patriots shifted tactics. Cook's addition has a few purposes: to provide a back who can actually make these dumpoffs and checkdowns DANGEROUS. To turn a 3 yard pass into a 12 yard gain. To help revive our long-dead screen game. To add speed and home-run ability to our running back stable, which it currently lacks. And finally, he's not JUST a dumpoff/checkdown back. He can legitimately split out not only into the slot but out wide and win routes against corners. You'll see him start out wide and then motion into the back field, or vice versa. You'll see him in the slot. You'll see him running reverses. He's gonna do A LOT in this offense. Picture the offense coming out in 12 personnel -- Davis, Diggs, Knox, Howard, Cook. This screams "running formation" to the defense. But then the offense goes empty. The linebackers are now forced to try to cover Knox, Howard, and Cook. THAT'S the future of the Bills offense. Still passing it, still spreading it out, but doing so with less predictable and more versatile pro personnel. 10 1 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: Live near Athens. Cook is a great pick. Has slot receiver abilities. He is a great pick….but he’s not going to run the ball very much imo. I’d say 2-5 carries this year with 2-5 targets. Then 5-10 targets in the future. All depends on how teams are trying to defend us and get mismatches with LBs 2 minutes ago, Logic said: I wasn't here to discuss the pick last night, and I haven't combed through all 21 pages, so perhaps this has been said, but... The Bills decided last year in the second regular season Patriots game that the primary way they were gonna beat two-high coverage going forward was to throw checkdowns and dumpoffs and utilize the running back in the passing game. They said "to hell with running the defense out of it, we're gonna THROW them out of it by utilizing the vacated space in the middle of the field". Josh was patient and hit Singletary a bunch, the plan worked, and the Patriots shifted tactics. Cook's addition has a few purposes: to provide a back who can actually make these dumpoffs and checkdowns DANGEROUS. To turn a 3 yard pass into a 12 yard gain. To help revive our long-dead screen game. To add speed and home-run ability to our running back stable, which it currently lacks. And finally, he's not JUST a dumpoff/checkdown back. He can legitimately split out not only into the slot but out wide and win routes against corners. You'll see him start out wide and then motion into the back field, or vice versa. You'll see him in the slot. You'll see him running reverses. He's gonna do A LOT in this offense. Picture the offense coming out in 12 personnel -- Davis, Diggs, Knox, Howard, Cook. This screams "running formation" to the defense. But then the offense goes empty. The linebackers are now forced to try to cover Knox, Howard, and Cook. THAT'S the future of the Bills offense. Still passing it, still spreading it out, but doing so with less predictable and more versatile pro personnel. Exactly. adapting, adjusting and having the ability to be multiple in our sets. On offense and defense….now that we have a corner that can excel in man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 As the season goes on Cook will become a 3 down back. Imagine Cook being in all 3 downs and then motioning out wide at the last second drawing LB coverage on 2nd or 3rd down. Cook is the missing link to this Bills offense. Unstoppable at the X,Y and Z positions on the offense and adding another pass catching weapon at RB. The defense can't cover everyone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Not sure if this has been posted, but this video shows that Cook was much more excited to be picked by the Bills than the broadcast video made it seem: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 44 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Funny thing about draft time is people know the cost of everything but the value of almost nothing. Buffalo was picking at 25 originally and used a 4th to move up to 23. It's gonna take a couple years, but at this point I'm cool with trading a 3rd to move up to grab a WR at 15 when your depth there is porous. After all, Buffalo getting another LB for the defense isn't a huge cost because those players aren't impacting games as much as a WR does. You can sign decent UFA LBs at value prices without burning top 100 picks anyway. Loads of WR's available after the draft? Come on dude. If you're talking UDFA's...yeah maybe 1 out of 20 becomes something. As for vets...try fitting them under the cap constraints this team faces each season now. To your final comment...KC last season was the better offense and threw the ball better. The Cheaps offense has been better at getting YAC and is overall less reliant on their QB carrying the ball. LOL! You know that moving from 25 to 15 (for...Dotson? Burks?) wouldn't have just cost a 3rd, right? It would have been a 2nd rounder, minimum. Sorry, not doing it for Dotson much less Burks. And veteran WRs. Who will come cheap because of the glut. But with Diggs, Davis and Crowder as their top-3, there's probably no room for a veteran except for depth. It's time to give Davis his shot. KC lost because their offense got shutdown in the 2nd half of that game. That didn't happen by accident. 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: He is a great pick….but he’s not going to run the ball very much imo. I’d say 2-5 carries this year with 2-5 targets. Then 5-10 targets in the future. All depends on how teams are trying to defend us and get mismatches with LBs Exactly. adapting, adjusting and having the ability to be multiple in our sets. On offense and defense….now that we have a corner that can excel in man. I see him running the ball quite a bit. They can't telegraph that he's just a receiving back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: LOL! You know that moving from 25 to 15 (for...Dotson? Burks?) wouldn't have just cost a 3rd, right? It would have been a 2nd rounder, minimum. Sorry, not doing it for Dotson much less Burks. And veteran WRs. Who will come cheap because of the glut. But with Diggs, Davis and Crowder as their top-3, there's probably no room for a veteran except for depth. It's time to give Davis his shot. KC lost because their offense got shutdown in the 2nd half of that game. That didn't happen by accident. I see him running the ball quite a bit. They can't telegraph that he's just a receiving back. We don’t have to give him more than 2-5 carries game to keep a D honest. How many snaps do you think he’s going to get this year? Motor will be our unquestioned starter imo and get 3x as many carries as Cook. I see Cook as an versatile pass catcher that we can move all around (backfield, motion, slot, outside) that needs to add some muscle to absorb what the nfl brings. The most carries James white ever averaged per game in a season was 5.8. They’ll look to get mismatches with LBs and take advantage of his speed. Not much a Lb can do matched up man with a guy like Cook. It doesn’t matter if they’re looking for it….once we get the matchup we want, it’s already over for the D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: We don’t have to give him more than 2-5 carries game to keep a D honest. How many snaps do you think he’s going to get this year? Motor will be our unquestioned starter imo and get 3x as many carries as Cook. I see Cook as an versatile pass catcher that we can move all around (backfield, motion, slot, outside) that needs to add some muscle to absorb what the nfl brings. The most carries James white ever averaged per game in a season was 5.8. They’ll look to get mismatches with LBs and take advantage of his speed. Not much a Lb can do matched up man with a guy like Cook. It doesn’t matter if they’re looking for it….once we get the matchup we want, it’s already over for the D I think 2:1 Motor:Cook. So around 8 carries a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 46 minutes ago, NewEra said: It’s blazing acceleration, suddenness and route running. He can be a 50+ reception per year guy, and is a legitimate threat that will make opposing defenses worry about him coming out of the backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 39 minutes ago, Logic said: I wasn't here to discuss the pick last night, and I haven't combed through all 21 pages, so perhaps this has been said, but... The Bills decided last year in the second regular season Patriots game that the primary way they were gonna beat two-high coverage going forward was to throw checkdowns and dumpoffs and utilize the running back in the passing game. They said "to hell with running the defense out of it, we're gonna THROW them out of it by utilizing the vacated space in the middle of the field". Josh was patient and hit Singletary a bunch, the plan worked, and the Patriots shifted tactics. Cook's addition has a few purposes: to provide a back who can actually make these dumpoffs and checkdowns DANGEROUS. To turn a 3 yard pass into a 12 yard gain. To help revive our long-dead screen game. To add speed and home-run ability to our running back stable, which it currently lacks. And finally, he's not JUST a dumpoff/checkdown back. He can legitimately split out not only into the slot but out wide and win routes against corners. You'll see him start out wide and then motion into the back field, or vice versa. You'll see him in the slot. You'll see him running reverses. He's gonna do A LOT in this offense. Picture the offense coming out in 12 personnel -- Davis, Diggs, Knox, Howard, Cook. This screams "running formation" to the defense. But then the offense goes empty. The linebackers are now forced to try to cover Knox, Howard, and Cook. THAT'S the future of the Bills offense. Still passing it, still spreading it out, but doing so with less predictable and more versatile pro personnel. There's a reason you're Logic. Well explained..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 My apologies if this has already been posted. The guy doesn't fumble it that often, gets a high Yards per run and Yards per catch and hardly ever drops it. I remember reading somewhere that he has caught over 85% of the targets thrown his way. 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Logic said: Not sure if this has been posted, but this video shows that Cook was much more excited to be picked by the Bills than the broadcast video made it seem: Draft coverage caught him right after he just managed to calm the room down, just some poor timing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: It’s blazing acceleration, suddenness and route running. I'll give you route-running, but what the heck is blazing acceleration? Do we notice "blazing acceleration" in a RB that has 4.8 speed? And then how do you define "suddenness"? (And please be honest) When I hear 'suddenness', I'm thinking quick change of direction; I don't see that in Cook any more than I do blazing acceleration. This is the only Beane pick since he's started making our picks that I absolutely do not like off top. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Here is a report on Cook from https://nfldraft.theringer.com SCOUTING REPORT BY DANNY KELLY Cook has a wiry frame and a highly versatile skill set. The younger brother of Vikings running back Dalvin Cook, James was a four-star prospect out of Miami, Florida, and a top-50 overall prospect nationally, per 247Sports. He took his talents to Georgia and became a four-year contributor there, tallying 1,503 yards and 14 touchdowns in his career to go with 67 catches for 730 yards and another six scores. He was a crucial piece to the team’s national championship run in 2021, turning 113 rushes into 728 yards and seven touchdowns while reeling in 27 passes for 284 yards and four scores through the air. Cook is both extremely quick and effortlessly smooth as a runner. He’s smaller than his older brother but brings a familiar running gait, utilizing stutter-skip and jump-cut moves in the open field that often leave defenders grasping for a cloud of dust. He’s shifty in the short area, showing good burst to accelerate and slip through small cracks in the defensive front. He has good vision to find the best rush track, and shows the patience to let his blocks set up in front of him, drafting off his offensive linemen before juking away from the defense. And he makes defenders miss with blur-inducing cuts and sudden jukes, and strings cuts together at the second level to find daylight. Where Cook truly stands out, though, is as a pass catcher. He’s capable of lining up all across the formation as a receiver (like when he ran a vertical route from the wing against Alabama in 2020, tracking the ball the whole way) and brings soft hands and natural skills as a route runner. He catches the ball away from his frame and shows the ability to go down and scoop it up when a throw comes in low. He shakes coverage when the play breaks down and gives his quarterback an outlet option. Cook has joker-piece potential as a hybrid pass catcher and running back at the next level. Cook is undersized by NFL standards and isn’t a powerful runner who breaks through contact or pushes the pile. He brings potential to add weight but at his current size he’s unlikely to be a volume runner in the NFL. He never got the bulk of the workload at Georgia, instead playing a complementary role to Zamir White. Lacks bulk to stymie blitzers in pass pro. WHY HE COULD RISE Cook brings the type of line-him-anywhere versatility in the passing game that NFL teams covet; he’s sudden and quick as a runner, too. WHY HE COULD FALL He lacks size and some teams may view him as a third-down complementary back only. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Here is a report on Cook from https://nfldraft.theringer.com SCOUTING REPORT BY DANNY KELLY Cook has a wiry frame and a highly versatile skill set. The younger brother of Vikings running back Dalvin Cook, James was a four-star prospect out of Miami, Florida, and a top-50 overall prospect nationally, per 247Sports. He took his talents to Georgia and became a four-year contributor there, tallying 1,503 yards and 14 touchdowns in his career to go with 67 catches for 730 yards and another six scores. He was a crucial piece to the team’s national championship run in 2021, turning 113 rushes into 728 yards and seven touchdowns while reeling in 27 passes for 284 yards and four scores through the air. Cook is both extremely quick and effortlessly smooth as a runner. He’s smaller than his older brother but brings a familiar running gait, utilizing stutter-skip and jump-cut moves in the open field that often leave defenders grasping for a cloud of dust. He’s shifty in the short area, showing good burst to accelerate and slip through small cracks in the defensive front. He has good vision to find the best rush track, and shows the patience to let his blocks set up in front of him, drafting off his offensive linemen before juking away from the defense. And he makes defenders miss with blur-inducing cuts and sudden jukes, and strings cuts together at the second level to find daylight. Where Cook truly stands out, though, is as a pass catcher. He’s capable of lining up all across the formation as a receiver (like when he ran a vertical route from the wing against Alabama in 2020, tracking the ball the whole way) and brings soft hands and natural skills as a route runner. He catches the ball away from his frame and shows the ability to go down and scoop it up when a throw comes in low. He shakes coverage when the play breaks down and gives his quarterback an outlet option. Cook has joker-piece potential as a hybrid pass catcher and running back at the next level. Cook is undersized by NFL standards and isn’t a powerful runner who breaks through contact or pushes the pile. He brings potential to add weight but at his current size he’s unlikely to be a volume runner in the NFL. He never got the bulk of the workload at Georgia, instead playing a complementary role to Zamir White. Lacks bulk to stymie blitzers in pass pro. WHY HE COULD RISE Cook brings the type of line-him-anywhere versatility in the passing game that NFL teams covet; he’s sudden and quick as a runner, too. WHY HE COULD FALL He lacks size and some teams may view him as a third-down complementary back only. As for the second bolded part: This is the key, right here. A great fit for the Bills offense, and will become Josh's favorite outlet when the play breaks down. As for the first bolded part, the vertical route from the wing against 'Bama: My pants just got a little tighter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Logic said: I wasn't here to discuss the pick last night, and I haven't combed through all 21 pages, so perhaps this has been said, but... The Bills decided last year in the second regular season Patriots game that the primary way they were gonna beat two-high coverage going forward was to throw checkdowns and dumpoffs and utilize the running back in the passing game. They said "to hell with running the defense out of it, we're gonna THROW them out of it by utilizing the vacated space in the middle of the field". Josh was patient and hit Singletary a bunch, the plan worked, and the Patriots shifted tactics. Cook's addition has a few purposes: to provide a back who can actually make these dumpoffs and checkdowns DANGEROUS. To turn a 3 yard pass into a 12 yard gain. To help revive our long-dead screen game. To add speed and home-run ability to our running back stable, which it currently lacks. And finally, he's not JUST a dumpoff/checkdown back. He can legitimately split out not only into the slot but out wide and win routes against corners. You'll see him start out wide and then motion into the back field, or vice versa. You'll see him in the slot. You'll see him running reverses. He's gonna do A LOT in this offense. Picture the offense coming out in 12 personnel -- Davis, Diggs, Knox, Howard, Cook. This screams "running formation" to the defense. But then the offense goes empty. The linebackers are now forced to try to cover Knox, Howard, and Cook. THAT'S the future of the Bills offense. Still passing it, still spreading it out, but doing so with less predictable and more versatile pro personnel. Coupled with McKenzie these things actually apply to spread formations as well. They can legitimately run “five wide” and have two running options (three of you count Allen). They might even be able to spread out 11 or 12 personnel to create matchup nightmares which could be deadly in a no huddle. It’s gonna be fun to see what they do with some of these personnel groups this season. There’s certainly more schematic flexibility with the additions they’ve made thus far. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Similar profile to McCaffrey, but without the insane college usage rate. Makes me think if we use him like McCaffrey probably should've been used (instead of as a workhorse), he can be highly effective in moderate doses as a runner & several targets per game. James Cook (5'11" 199 lbs) 40- 4.42 10yd Split- 1.54 Vertical- 33" Broad-124" Yards per touch- 9.04 1 TD per every 14.9 touches Christian McCaffrey (5'11" 202 lbs) 40- 4.48 10yd Split- 1.55 Vertical-37.5" Broad- 121" Yards per touch- 7.01 1 TD per every 23.5 touches 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Mike Rob 👍🏻 FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 hours ago, BurpleBull said: I don't agree that he runs the ball very well, that's why I don't think he should've been drafted in the 2nd. He didn't need to be an every down work-horse, I just needed to see other qualities traditionally associated with really good RBs. I literally don't see anything outside of speed and pass-catching, and it isn't even blazing speed. Was there a RB you did like in the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 17 hours ago, Mango said: He might turn out to be the most talented pass catching RB that we healthy scratch every Sunday. Sheesh. A couple of down votes. It was a joke. Tough crowd…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Stud. Lots of tread left on his tires too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Logic said: As for the second bolded part: This is the key, right here. A great fit for the Bills offense, and will become Josh's favorite outlet when the play breaks down. As for the first bolded part, the vertical route from the wing against 'Bama: My pants just got a little tighter. Yeah Cook tracks the ball on long throws very well for a RB. People who look at short screen passes to RB's and think that makes a back like an extra receiver on the field really don't get it. Really good receivers track and catch long throws just as easily as the short ones. The more they have to slow their feet or leave them altogether just to catch the ball........like, for example, clumsy former Bills WR Andre Holmes.......the less special they are. CJ Spiller is a good example of a guy who could catch a screen pass but 20 yards downfield he was terrible.........just as likely to take that pass off of his facemark as he was to bobble it in for a catch. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Was there a RB you did like in the draft? I liked Rachaad White outside of the 3rd rd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RocCityRoller Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 13 hours ago, NewEra said: Yeah that’s one of the better comparisons. Ekeler is definitely more compact and has more muscle mass. His route running and running style in the open field reminds me of Kamara, but he is not nearly as physical. Cook is more of WR in the open field than he is a Rb. Very little tackle breaking and not much make you miss. Burst and run away from you type stuff. I hope that he’s willing to put in the work in the weight room so he has a better chance of staying healthy and is more effective running the ball and in pass protection. Get him on the Singletary Swole Offseason workout program. Every site had Cook's weight different. I saw as low as 190 and as high as 199. 1 or 2 seasons in an NFL training/ eating program and I think he can settle in around 200 without losing much speed. I think Singletary added darned near 10 pounds last off season and didn't look slower. Cook has 4.42 speed. He is fast. He has great hands. Ekeler is about 1 inch shorter and 5-10 pounds heavier. If Cook is in it is probably a pass, but can run to mix things up. For the older heads I see Eric Metcalf. Metcalf was 5'10 188 4.46 40 Metcalf was a RB/WR hybrid who was an x factor for every team he played on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: I liked Rachaad White outside of the 3rd rd. White is a good player. For me, I’ll take the pass catching ability over White being a little bigger and slower. Also, the competition Cook played against is much better than what White played against. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah Cook tracks the ball on long throws very well for a RB. People who look at short screen passes to RB's and think that makes a back like an extra receiver on the field really don't get it. Really good receivers track and catch long throws just as easily as the short ones. The more they have to slow their feet or leave them altogether just to catch the ball........like, for example, clumsy former Bills WR Andre Holmes.......the less special they are. CJ Spiller is a good example of a guy who could catch a screen pass but 20 yards downfield he was terrible.........just as likely to take that pass off of his facemark as he was to bobble it in for a catch. He's Ekeler or Metcalf to me. That is a useable chess piece on offense with a QB like JA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, Warcodered said: seems like a good kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I think i know my fantasy rookie sleeper pick.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Get him on the Singletary Swole Offseason workout program. Every site had Cook's weight different. I saw as low as 190 and as high as 199. 1 or 2 seasons in an NFL training/ eating program and I think he can settle in around 200 without losing much speed. I think Singletary added darned near 10 pounds last off season and didn't look slower. Cook has 4.42 speed. He is fast. He has great hands. Ekeler is about 1 inch shorter and 5-10 pounds heavier. If Cook is in it is probably a pass, but can run to mix things up. For the older heads I see Eric Metcalf. Metcalf was 5'10 188 4.46 40 Metcalf was a RB/WR hybrid who was an x factor for every team he played on. Singletary would be a lot more popular with Bills fans if he just posted a fake video of him running a 4.4 40 yard dash.........nobody will know that it was only 37 yards........perception is reality apparently because the fact that he has averaged an excellent 4.7 ypr in his career clearly doesn't register. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: Coupled with McKenzie these things actually apply to spread formations as well. They can legitimately run “five wide” and have two running options (three of you count Allen). They might even be able to spread out 11 or 12 personnel to create matchup nightmares which could be deadly in a no huddle. It’s gonna be fun to see what they do with some of these personnel groups this season. There’s certainly more schematic flexibility with the additions they’ve made thus far. I wouldn't want to be a DC preparing for Buffalo this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 5 hours ago, BurpleBull said: I'll give you route-running, but what the heck is blazing acceleration? Do we notice "blazing acceleration" in a RB that has 4.8 speed? And then how do you define "suddenness"? (And please be honest) When I hear 'suddenness', I'm thinking quick change of direction; I don't see that in Cook any more than I do blazing acceleration. This is the only Beane pick since he's started making our picks that I absolutely do not like off top. Well. You are wrong. He will end up getting 50 percent of snaps by end of year. His acceleration is like Kamara...smooth but you don't catch him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Well. You are wrong. He will end up getting 50 percent of snaps by end of year. His acceleration is like Kamara...smooth but you don't catch him You are making things up. He gets caught from behind plenty in the highlights I've watched on him. It's rare that he even gets the opportunity to turn a carry into a foot race because he's taken to the turf so often on first contact. He'll be a nice receiving target out of the backfield, but there's no reason to begin imagining qualities that didn't show up regularly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: You are making things up. He gets caught from behind plenty in the highlights I've watched on him. It's rare that he even gets the opportunity to turn a carry into a foot race because he's taken to the turf so often on first contact. He'll be a nice receiving target out of the backfield, but there's no reason to begin imagining qualities that didn't show up regularly. 35 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Well. You are wrong. He will end up getting 50 percent of snaps by end of year. His acceleration is like Kamara...smooth but you don't catch him Well, I know which one of you I HOPE is right! 😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, GolfandBills said: Yeah looks like 28 bmi to me BMI is a great chart for growing pre- pubescent children, and less useless than the wonderlic for pro athletes. people complain about things they dont understand in the least. theres not a single scout in the league that cares about BMI. Arnold during his Mr Olympia run was "obese" on BMI scale Edited April 30, 2022 by BillsShredder83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warriorspikes51 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) We should Trade for his brother😎 2023 2nd + Moss to Vikes? Edited May 1, 2022 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 9 hours ago, BurpleBull said: I'll give you route-running, but what the heck is blazing acceleration? Do we notice "blazing acceleration" in a RB that has 4.8 speed? And then how do you define "suddenness"? (And please be honest) When I hear 'suddenness', I'm thinking quick change of direction; I don't see that in Cook any more than I do blazing acceleration. This is the only Beane pick since he's started making our picks that I absolutely do not like off top. You don’t have to give me anything. It’s true. That’s why he was a 2nd rd pick…. if you don’t know what suddenness is at this point in your life, I can’t help you. I’ve watched a ton of his tape. We obviously see different things when we watch RBs. Looks like Beane and co sees what I see. As the 3rd rb off the board. He’s mismatch vs most LBs and will be used as such. His route running is advanced for a RB. I’d call him a RB/WR 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 7 hours ago, BurpleBull said: I liked Rachaad White outside of the 3rd rd. I don't like RB picks early either. I think they basically got a 2nd rounder in the 1st round, and a 3rd rounder in the 2nd round.........and a 5th-6th rounder in the 3rd. And in the process gave away a 4th round pick in a year where there was 2nd round talent available in round 4. Basically they did what I dislike the team to do in the draft..........they just tried to make a small profit addressing needs at lesser positions of value in their systems......... instead of having a higher standard. If you draft like that consistently it eventually takes a toll on your roster.........it was a problem with the 90's Bills........they were often already drafting special teamers in mid rounds instead of gambling on upside and because of that eventually the Parcells Patriots and Johnson Dolphins caught up and passed them, roster wise. I would have passed on Cook too........but Cook is a potentially valuable player...........I can like him and not like the value where he was picked. This is the way the draft goes sometimes from a fan perspective. In all of the other McBeane drafts they did better for value. Really the Cody Ford trade was his only real glaring L prior to losing some battles this weekend, IMO. But in picking up some low hanging fruit.........a zone CB, a RB, a WLB, a slot receiver and a punter..........they may actually end up with a pretty decent amount of starters at least. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 He adds what the offense has lacked. Some who can take it to the house. Use him like Kamara. Teams want to sit in 2 high, good luck. I predict he is the starter by thanksgiving. Very young, 21? Easily, could add a few pds. Size, ie weight is becoming less a requirement to play in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Cook, McKenzie and Shakir are really adding some "position-less" types to the offense. It's going to be interesting to see the offense this season, because they definitely have the ability to line up and be really creative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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