Greg S Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 A very legitimate source said there were cities interested in taking the Bills away from Buffalo before the team struck a deal for a new stadium. On Wednesday, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said via WNYC radio that cities that specifically lost teams wanted to land the Bills had there been a possibility. She went on to indicate that San Diego was one. “I was aware that they were being reached out to by other cities that have lost teams before. That is real,” Hochul said. “My whole life there was talk of them going to Toronto… Buffalo is a very small market. It is quite extraordinary that they have a team at all,” she added. “Because there’s a lot more money to be had in those larger cities like San Diego and others who would love to have a team. So, that’s a reality most people probably aren’t familiar with.” Hochul, a western New York native, would be well aware of the Toronto subject. On March 28, it was officially announced that a $1.4 billion venue would be built for the Bills in Orchard Park next to their current home. The team will be locked into playing there for at least 30 years and will begin in 2026. The building will officially be an open-air stadium with about a 62,000-seating capacity. The Bills and the NFL will front $550M for the project. The $850M total from taxpayers covers 61 percent of the total cost of construction. Other markets that lost NFL franchises in the past include St. Louis and Oakland. 4 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Water is wet too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 My spec. is that simply trying to let her voters know the threat was real and make the $850 mil. More palatable. Who knows how serious San Diego was when they wouldn’t fork up the $ for a newer Chargers stadium. It went to a refendum (like everything on the left coast) 6 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Of course. Not surprising at all. The deal they struck was definitely lopsided against the state of NY, but either they anted up or the Bills could leave. With no guarantee that money would be used on “more important things.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Water is wet too This just reinforces the fact that she was able to get a deal done and secure the long term future for the Bills in WNY. We(fans) can relax and don't have to worry about relocation anymore. SD can wait 34 years now if they want the Bills. By that time I will probably be taking a permanent dirt nap. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: My spec. is that simply trying to let her voters know the threat was real and make the $850 mil. More palatable. Who knows how serious San Diego was when they wouldn’t fork up the $ for a newer Chargers stadium. It went to a refendum (like everything on the left coast) True. But she only mentioned San Diego. There seems to have been other places as well. Pegula’s would definitely be fronting all the money for a California stadium. Public money for new stadiums isn’t a thing out here. Edited April 13, 2022 by purple haze 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 PH, yep, and you’d think some of the detractors at least felt a little better that what $450 mil. Of it comes from gambling $. Im in no rush for the new stadium simply as when I fly up with my kids for a September game, it’s four airfares, tix, and spending for the whole family while there. It’s an investment which is why I’ve only in the last few years gone up twice and of course the wind was miserable in beginning of November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Taint nothing worse than a story w/o a link. Quote Hochul referenced years of rumors about the Bills moving to nearby Toronto, while also sharing that San Diego and other larger cities that recently lost NFL franchises had reached out to the Pegulas about relocating their franchise. Edited April 13, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Saw some tweets talking about the deal that noted something that I think people tend to ignore for some reason. As rich as the Pegula's are it's not realistic to think they just have a 1 Billion+ available to just spend on this, their net worth is including assets. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Taking the Chargers to LA was such BS. As if Los Angles needs two NFL franchises to be uninterested in. 3 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, purple haze said: True. But she only mentioned San Diego. There seems to have been other places as well. Pegula’s would definitely be fronting all the money for a California stadium. Public money for new stadiums isn’t a thing out here. That’s because they are always broke with excessive spending by the govt. Sorry, I’ve had three home offices out there for Mgmt meetings. Multiple times a year and was appalled by the excessive spending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Taint nothing worse than a story w/o a link. Gov. Kathy Hochul: San Diego was option for Buffalo Bills relocation (usatoday.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 So the team that already showed they couldn’t afford/help pay for a team was somehow going to land another team?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: My spec. is that simply trying to let her voters know the threat was real and make the $850 mil. More palatable. Who knows how serious San Diego was when they wouldn’t fork up the $ for a newer Chargers stadium. It went to a refendum (like everything on the left coast) Agreed, but Baltimore wouldn’t fork over the money and the Colts moved - suddenly they find the money and steal the Browns. Cleveland couldn’t find the money and when the Baltimore threat was realized - suddenly Cleveland found the money and then built a stadium for the new Browns. The same goes for St. Louis - lost the Cardinals - built a huge new dome for the Rams. Oakland lost the Raiders to LA and then got them back and lost them again over Stadium money. Houston needed a new stadium - lost the Oilers - built a huge new dome for the Texans. LA had 2 teams leave that needed new stadiums and tax breaks - San Diego needed a new stadium - lost the Chargers - why would it be a surprise that suddenly they decided they could force through the tax increase on Hotels that failed and make another nice offer. I would call BS except the exact same thing has happened at least 8 times in the last 30 years and every town that lost a team suddenly found funding to throw at a new team. Every time. The difference is if the Bills left Buffalo - they were not coming back - we were dead. 11 8 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Taint nothing worse than a story w/o a link. Sorry I can't post the link but its there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) San Diego always wants a team until they get one then they don't want one anymore. San Diego is a psychotic girlfriend. Edited April 13, 2022 by TBBills 1 1 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 San Diego could have kept the Chargers . The Bills would have to pay a massive amount to the NFL and its owners to move and then be expected to chip in big for a new stadium there, not likely. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Ya Digg? said: So the team that already showed they couldn’t afford/help pay for a team was somehow going to land another team?? That is how the game is played. Strange, I know……. 🤷♂️ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, TBBills said: San Diego always wants a team until they get one then they don't want one anymore. San Diego is a psychotic girlfriend. You’ve obviously speak from experience. 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 There has been talk about NFL expanding. Which obviously means they believe there are more markets out there. San Diego is potentially one of them so this is wholly believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Greg S said: Sorry I can't post the link but its there. Thats ok. I know how to Google Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I bet this meathead was behind it. Next time I see him I'm going to slap him upside his noggin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Greg S said: Sorry I can't post the link but its there. https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/04/13/bills-new-stadium-public-money-new-york-governor-hochul-san-diego-toronto-franchise-relocation-pegula https://www.localsyr.com/sports/buffalo-bills/hochul-bills-did-have-options-to-leave-buffalo-before-stadium-deal/ https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/13/kathy-hochul-san-diego-buffalo-bills-relocation-stadium/ There ya go. I offer classes on using a message board. Rates start at $1,795/hour. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 More Bills fans in San Diego than Chargers fans. I know from experience. Go Bills! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: So the team that already showed they couldn’t afford/help pay for a team was somehow going to land another team?? It has happened at least 8 times before in the modern NFL - why would we think it could happen again. The Chargers moved when a tax on hotels rooms was voted down - not even a tax the people in SD payed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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machine gun kelly Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 TB, is fellow Tampa guys need to stick together. Born in Hamburg, but moved here right after college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, purple haze said: Of course. Not surprising at all. The deal they struck was definitely lopsided against the state of NY, but either they anted up or the Bills could leave. With no guarantee that money would be used on “more important things.” Just like player salaries...the cost of building these things is going up and there will be no shortage of suitors. Pay up to have a team. Glad little buffalo/rochester gets to have an NFL franchise. They would never, ever get one in today's market. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 While it would have been great to have the bills much closer to me......I am glad they remained where they were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, purple haze said: Of course. Not surprising at all. The deal they struck was definitely lopsided against the state of NY, but either they anted up or the Bills could leave. With no guarantee that money would be used on “more important things.” And a large chunk is money made from the seneca casino in wny so its fitting that money is spent in wny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Must be an election year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: My spec. is that simply trying to let her voters know the threat was real and make the $850 mil. More palatable. Who knows how serious San Diego was when they wouldn’t fork up the $ for a newer Chargers stadium. It went to a refendum (like everything on the left coast) The County was very serious. The City not do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 46 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: My spec. is that simply trying to let her voters know the threat was real and make the $850 mil. More palatable. Who knows how serious San Diego was when they wouldn’t fork up the $ for a newer Chargers stadium. It went to a refendum (like everything on the left coast) I tend to think that San Diego learned their lesson... There's a price to pay for hosting an NFL team and it's not just your ticket price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Turk Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 So SD wasn't willing to build a stadium to keep the team there when they had a chance but they'd happily pay for one now? Makes no sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 San Diego should try to get the Chargers back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I know there are some loyal Bills fans in SoCal, but overall people out there are interested in other things than the NFL. I do love San Diego as a city, and it’s beautiful, but they are nothing like a group like Buffalo people. We eat, breathe, and bleed red, white, and royal blue. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: While it would have been great to have the bills much closer to me......I am glad they remained where they were. Same here. San Diego Chargers we’re always my 2nd favorite team. Not so much since they moved. Glad the Bills are staying in Buffalo but having them in SD would have been a bit conflicting. If the Bills moved anywhere else they would have been dead to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Hochul did the right thing. In my opinion, WNY losing the Bills would have been devastating. The only thing I would have done differently, in an effort to give Buffalo an economic shot in the arm, is locate the stadium in downtown Buffalo and add a retractable dome. I would have investigated to see if federal infrastructure dollars could be used for to created a winter sports park featuring Slalom Runs, Speed Skating Area, outdoor hockey arena, etc. The hope would have been to stimulate redevelopment and new private development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Thank God she got it done. She’s so brave. As her constituents, we should all be grateful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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