Norcalbillsfan Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Christian Watson, not really a sleeper anymore now that he's being mocked in rd 1. But this wr class is so deep I think his freak size and speed are getting a little over shadowed. If he got paired with a good veteran wr to learn from and a good QB to throw to him he could be everything the chargers hope Mike Williams will finally be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: Mac Jones literally 1 year ago. Mac Jones is not a statue in the pocket. He isn't especially mobile but he can move. The book on Strong is that he is almost completely immobile because of surgeries to his right knee. As immobile as Matt Ryan or Philip Rivers. That type of QB isn't valued in the modern NFL. I don't have a dog in this fight, Strong might be a great NFL QB when all is said and done, but you're the only one I've seen pegging him as a 1st round QB let alone a top 10 QB. The medical red flag alone will drop him. Just now, FFadpecr said: Strong - J Allen This is an awful comparison. Allen is a much much better athlete. Even if Strong reaches his ceiling he will never be able to do some of the things Allen does to escape pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 5:08 PM, GolfandBills said: Rachaad White I could see Rachaad White getting into the third round, similar to Antonio Gibson going much higher than projected in 2020. I'm gonna throw WR Michael Woods II out there as a sleeper, probably won't go until late but I think he'll be a decent pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, FFadpecr said: You miss the point. Strong = Franchise QB Allen = Franchise QB All the other guys are not NFL Franchise QBs. I am not saying Strong will be as good as Allen; I am saying Strong will come out of this draft as an NFL Franchise QB; those other guys you mentioned will not, just like Baker/Darnold/Rosen did not. The NFL comparison for Carson Strong is a clutch Carson Palmer. Carson Palmer was an NFL Franchise QB. Go back and look what Palmer did with Bruce Arians and the Cardinals. That's Strong in the NFL, especially with Carroll. For probably the 10th time, you're clearly very convinced with all of this, why not put some money behind it? Or at the very least, please stop talking to everyone else like we're the ones who look crazy, when you're coming here with the NFL Draft version of screaming "lizard people control the world". Like Gunner said, we're as convinced that you're wrong as you're convinced that you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 3:40 PM, Magnum Force said: Tariq Wollen CB Tyquan Thorton WR Tyquan Thorton WR might be a steal on day 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Putin said: Tyquan Thorton WR might be a steal on day 3 I agree… he would a great pick for the Bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 hours ago, FFadpecr said: Mac Jones literally 1 year ago. Matt Stafford just won the Super Bowl. If Strong is an "immobile pocket passer" then so is Stafford, who is the reigning SB winning QB and is headed for the HOF after a few more strong regular seasons. Stafford leans toward the "immobile" side of NFL QBs, as does Strong. Strong has elite pocket awareness and pocket manipulation. Pocket manipulation has nothing to do with athleticism. Mac Jones = #15 overall pick in 2021 Old-school coach Belichick drafts old-school QB in Top 15. Now take Mac Jones' body, and attach Justin Herbert's right arm to it - you get Carson Strong. Strong is Mac Jones with Arm Talent. Basically, he's a much more talented Mac Jones. Carroll = Old-School Coach Strong = Old-School QB Put 2 and 2 together. Matthew Stafford is not making the HOF. Other than that, great take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Getting this thread back on track after yesterday's madness... Call this an anti-sleeper, if you like, but Jalen Wydermyer is absolutely worth a late round dart throw. There's plenty to be concerned about with this kid, and it's probably not unfair to say he's likely to be nothing in the pros, but clearly there is (or was) something there. Maybe he needs to grow up? Maybe he was hiding an injury? Maybe he doesn't actually love the game, or to the point that the above link makes, maybe he's just not in peak physical shape and/or didn't refine his testing techniques. Any/all of those could be true, but if you can untap his potential, he could be an absolute bargain with a 6th or 7th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 56 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Getting this thread back on track after yesterday's madness... Call this an anti-sleeper, if you like, but Jalen Wydermyer is absolutely worth a late round dart throw. There's plenty to be concerned about with this kid, and it's probably not unfair to say he's likely to be nothing in the pros, but clearly there is (or was) something there. Maybe he needs to grow up? Maybe he was hiding an injury? Maybe he doesn't actually love the game, or to the point that the above link makes, maybe he's just not in peak physical shape and/or didn't refine his testing techniques. Any/all of those could be true, but if you can untap his potential, he could be an absolute bargain with a 6th or 7th round pick. I have a 5th on him. I agree there is something there. His tape was super disappointing but if you are going to take a swing on day 3 he is a candidate to do it. I would go as far as saying the Bills will definitely draft a tight end somewhere this year. They have zero under contract for 2023. That is a "Carson Strong top 10" level guarantee. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I have little doubt that @BringBackFergywill be sound asleep before the Bills make their first pick. @Beerball @CountryCletus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Gugny said: I have little doubt that @BringBackFergywill be sound asleep before the Bills make their first pick. @Beerball @CountryCletus Pay me my $40 in the morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrW Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) My sleeper: Erik Ezukanma WR Texas Tech Living in Lubbock (TTU pays me to teach biochemistry), I am watching every Texas Tech game. Erik has good size (6'2" to 6'3", 210 to 220, depending on the source) but plays even stronger, fighting for YAC with defenders hanging on to him. He is the best WR Texas Tech had since Michael Crabtree (admittedly, so far he has not reached Crabtree's level). He was a clear day 2 candidate after the 2020 season. An injury and the atrocious pay of the Texas Tech QBs in 2021 dropped his stock. Edited April 5, 2022 by DrW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 17 hours ago, Gugny said: I have little doubt that @BringBackFergywill be sound asleep before the Bills make their first pick. @Beerball @CountryCletus Quoted for emphasis. Dude has more nap that my chic suede jacket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickveto Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 4.37 He reminds me of Adrian Peterson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 In years gone by, Tim Couch and Marcus Davenport were a couple of my favorites. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Vickveto said: 4.37 He reminds me of Adrian Peterson. He certainly runs hard…I like it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickveto Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 7:59 PM, Putin said: Tyquan Thorton WR might be a steal on day 3 I think because of his speed he gets selected in the third round. I would be happy if we took our chance in the third round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 6:13 PM, MrEpsYtown said: One other is Isaiah Likely from Coastal Carolina. I study their stuff and have stolen a bunch of their plays for my high school team. That dude can play. Reminds me a bit of Charles Clay before we signed him and he started to suck. Isaiah Likely looks FAST on tape but he ran a 4.8 40 yard dash which is pretty bad for him, hopefully it drops him in the draft because he looks like a weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Noah Ellis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 10:45 AM, FFadpecr said: QB Carson Strong Best QB in this draft class by a mile. A true NFL Franchise QB. NFL comp: Carson Palmer with the clutch gene Draft ceiling: #6 to Carolina Likeliest destination: #9 to Seattle Draft floor: #11 to Washington Top 11 pick on April 28th. @FFadpecr your day has arrived! Still feeling this confident in Strong??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 This Breece Hall guy they say is a 2nd rounder but a lot of people thinking he might go in the 1st 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: This Breece Hall guy they say is a 2nd rounder but a lot of people thinking he might go in the 1st 🤔 STAY TUNED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 12:29 AM, Vickveto said: 4.37 He reminds me of Adrian Peterson. Why did they use music normally reserved for bowling highlights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/4/2022 at 2:08 PM, glazeduck said: Getting this thread back on track after yesterday's madness... Call this an anti-sleeper, if you like, but Jalen Wydermyer is absolutely worth a late round dart throw. There's plenty to be concerned about with this kid, and it's probably not unfair to say he's likely to be nothing in the pros, but clearly there is (or was) something there. Maybe he needs to grow up? Maybe he was hiding an injury? Maybe he doesn't actually love the game, or to the point that the above link makes, maybe he's just not in peak physical shape and/or didn't refine his testing techniques. Any/all of those could be true, but if you can untap his potential, he could be an absolute bargain with a 6th or 7th round pick. I like to look back at those “way too early next year mock drafts” that everyone posts like the day after the draft. He was the projected first round tight end before the season. So its projection. Bills have shown interest and it is totally worth a late round shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I like to look back at those “way too early next year mock drafts” that everyone posts like the day after the draft. He was the projected first round tight end before the season. So its projection. Bills have shown interest and it is totally worth a late round shot. Something's up with him, so certainly interviews may nix him entirely, but he's got talent, fix the other stuff and you've got a low investment chance at something solid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Well, me, for one.. <YAWN> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Barno, Turner, Parham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 4:09 PM, DJB said: Buddy Nix used to sleep through free agency and the draft Just following Levy's direction: "If you develop a reputation as an astute player personnel man, you can sleep through free agency and the draft." At least, I think that's what Marv said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Sleepers? Pretty sure I'll be sleeping by the time the Bills pick. Edited April 28, 2022 by skibum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) I think it’s Rachaad White. Seems like a complete back does everything good and has 4.48 speed Edited April 28, 2022 by GolfandBills 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 4:17 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: Draft sleeper on offense Jeremy Ruckert from Ohio State cause the Bucks system doesn’t really utilize the Tight End he is going to make someone very happy in the middle rounds as the kid can play. Draft Sleeper on D…Troy Anderson the linebacker from Montana State he really is a poor man’s Micah Parsons 6’4 243lbs absolutely did everything at that school and also ran 4.42 40 I don't think folks are sleeping on Anderson NOW. Seeing him mocked as high as round 2 or 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 5:13 PM, MrEpsYtown said: One other is Isaiah Likely from Coastal Carolina. I study their stuff and have stolen a bunch of their plays for my high school team. That dude can play. Reminds me a bit of Charles Clay before we signed him and he started to suck. I feel we could take Likely in the 4th if he's still around. Ty Chandler, I've mentioned him before. I think he's a perfect compliment to Singletary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 DT Noah Eliss, Idaho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Malcolm Rodriguez, doesn't have ideal size for a LB but he can fly. Looks like a faster Matt Milano. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, skibum said: Sleepers? Pretty sure I'll be sleeping by the time the Bills pick. They REALLY should be starting the draft at 6:00...... 8:00 is too late!! Anyone care to guess what TIME pick #25 should roll in???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Hate to admit I am a draft sleeper. I will be trying to stay up this time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yantha said: They REALLY should be starting the draft at 6:00...... 8:00 is too late!! Anyone care to guess what TIME pick #25 should roll in???? I would guess between 10:00 and 10:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Tariq Woolen, CB, Texas-San Antonio Height: 6-4. Weight: 205. Arm: 33.63. Hand: 9.13. Official 40 Time: 4.26. Projected Round (2022): 2-4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I think most of my friends will be a-sleepers by the time buffalo drafts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Marquan mcCall! Love that dude 6-3, 379 and he can move 53 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I feel we could take Likely in the 4th if he's still around. Ty Chandler, I've mentioned him before. I think he's a perfect compliment to Singletary. Likely is a good weapon in the RPO game. I like his upside. I like TY too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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