I don't think WR is a need. We got a breakout star on our roster already

[JerseyBills]

His name is Marquez Stevenson. With the Crowder acquisition, re signing McKenzie and Davis being as good as I believe he is, I think we're good at WR. Also the beauty of having a Stefon Diggs is he'll bring great intensity and leadership to the WR room and bring out the best from the younger guys.

 

Stevenson was 1st team all ACC in 18 and 19 and has freakish speed. He seemed to gain confidence in the coaching staff with his late season return duties. 

 

Davis takes Sanders role. Crowder takes Beasleys role. McKenzie can play in or out and Stevenson can be what McKenzie was last year.

 

I could totally see a Diggs , McKenzie and Stevenson 3 WR set. I think he could at least be a Hardman type of WR WR because his pure speed is super elite and will always gain attention for his deep threat ability.  

 

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a WR in rd 5 or later but we quietly built a really good WR room even with 2 veteran losses. Hodgins is also sitting there as a total wildcard. He might not cut it in the NFL but he's only going on year 3

 

What yall think? 

His college tape is insane! 

 

 

 

Edited April 1, 2022 by JerseyBills

[FireChans]

Strong praise for a fifth round pick who has proven nothing at the NFL level.

 

Why him and not Isaiah Hodgins?

[JerseyBills]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Strong praise for a fifth round pick who has proven nothing at the NFL level.

 

Why him and not Isaiah Hodgins?

I don't remember any game off the top of my head that Hodgins was active for. 

Like I said, the coaching staff seemed to gain alot of trust in Stevenson as the season went on. 

[smuvtalker]

10 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

His name is Marquez Stevenson. With the Crowder acquisition, re signing McKenzie and Davis being as good as I believe he is, I think we're good at WR. Also the beauty of having a Stefon Diggs is he'll bring great intensity and leadership to the WR room and bring out the best from the younger guys.

 

Stevenson was 1st team all ACC in 18 and 19 and has freakish speed. He seemed to gain confidence in the coaching staff with his late season return duties. 

 

Davis takes Sanders role. Crowder takes Beasleys role. McKenzie can play in or out and Stevenson can be what McKenzie was last year.

 

I could totally see a Diggs , McKenzie and Stevenson 3 WR set. I think he could at least be a Hardman type of WR WR because his pure speed is super elite and will always gain attention for his deep threat ability.  

 

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a WR in rd 5 or later but we quietly built a really good WR room even with 2 veteran losses. Hodgins is also sitting there as a total wildcard. He might not cut it in the NFL but he's only going on year 3

 

What yall think? 

His college tape is insane! 

 

 

 

I'm certainly not giving up on him, but I tend to agree with FireChans in that he really didn't do too much last year, outside of a couple of decent punt returns.  I'm down to see what he can do given a chance or two at WR....However, this year's draft just has such sexy prospects it's hard to ignore the fact at least one or two bonafide stars could be there waiting for us when we pick...

[That's No Moon]

I don't know how he is as a receiver, but what I saw of him as a returner was it looked like he had the worst field vision I've ever seen and was lucky he didn't get himself killed.

[GolfandBills]

4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

I don't remember any game off the top of my head that Hodgins was active for. 

Like I said, the coaching staff seemed to gain alot of trust in Stevenson as the season went on. 

You mean when they benched him ?

[BillsFanForever19]

I had hopes for him. But we needed speed last season and the coaches didn't use him, which speaks volumes. And when he got his shot at being the return man, he showed a proclivity for putting the ball on the ground. Both he and Hodgins were end of the draft picks that have shown nothing. They aren't people you count on.

[BADOLBILZ]

6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Like I said, the coaching staff seemed to gain alot of trust in Stevenson as the season went on. 

 

That didn't happen.

 

He played just 6 offensive snaps all season........no receptions..........and lost his returner job in the playoffs.

 

 

 

[1ManRaid]

5 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

I don't remember any game off the top of my head that Hodgins was active for. 

Like I said, the coaching staff seemed to gain alot of trust in Stevenson as the season went on. 

 

Gained a lot of trust as the season went on...you mean when he came off IR late in November after a couple months missed?  They "trusted" that he was no longer injured.  Finished the season with all of zero receptions, and two fumbles.

[JerseyBills]

6 minutes ago, smuvtalker said:

I'm certainly not giving up on him, but I tend to agree with FireChans in that he really didn't do too much last year, outside of a couple of decent punt returns.  I'm down to see what he can do given a chance or two at WR....However, this year's draft just has such sexy prospects it's hard to ignore the fact at least one or two bonafide stars could be there waiting for us when we pick...

He was sitting behind great WRs. He was a late rd rookie, what did you expect? And he made the active roster late in the year. 

He has freakish speed. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Sure could happen.  Diggs was a 5th rounder, Beasley was undrafted as was Thielan.  But odds aren't that great when dealing with a 6th round draft pick.  Not saying he can't become great, but don't think you want to count on it.

 

1st team ACC means very little as well the ACC isn't that great a conference to start with.  On top of that if you're going to get drafted at all you better be able to make 1st team ACC.  Yes he does have speed, could still easily make the team if if they draft a WR high as he could be the 6th WR, guy they turn to for pure speed.  Maybe he spent all off season in weight room and has bulked up.

 

They need to draft someone high, not so much for the 2022 season, but more long term.  No guarantee Diggs will be here next season if he decides he wants Hill/Adams type money or even close to it.   Also injuries to worry about so could use more high quality depth.

[whorlnut]

2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

He was sitting behind great WRs. He was a late rd rookie, what did you expect? And he made the active roster late in the year. 

He has freakish speed. 

A late rookie that gave us no reason to get excited is gonna be the answer?  You’re really reaching here dude. 

Edited April 1, 2022 by whorlnut

[Logic]

I HOPE Stevenson and/or Hodgins turn out to be good receivers.

Hope is not a strategy.

Get me a WR by round 4 and I'll be happy.

 

[JerseyBills]

4 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

Gained a lot of trust as the season went on...you mean when he came off IR late in November after a couple months missed?  They "trusted" that he was no longer injured.  Finished the season with all of zero receptions, and two fumbles.

Exactly. 

Immediately after coming off ir he was on the active roster

[whorlnut]

2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Sure could happen.  Diggs was a 5th rounder, Beasley was undrafted as was Thielan.  But odds aren't that great when dealing with a 6th round draft pick.  Not saying he can't become great, but don't think you want to count on it.

 

1st team ACC means very little as well the ACC isn't that great a conference to start with.  On top of that if you're going to get drafted at all you better be able to make 1st team ACC.  Yes he does have speed, could still easily make the team if if they draft a WR high as he could be the 6th WR, guy they turn to for pure speed.  Maybe he spent all off season in weight room and has bulked up.

 

They need to draft someone high, not so much for the 2022 season, but more long term.  No guarantee Diggs will be here next season if he decides he wants Hill/Adams type money or even close to it.   Also injuries to worry about so could use more high quality depth.

Don’t forget that Beane might not wanna pay Davis big money if he continues to ascend. There is a legit need at WR. 

[BillsFanForever19]

5 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

He was sitting behind great WRs. He was a late rd rookie, what did you expect? And he made the active roster late in the year. 

He has freakish speed. 

 

You're right. He has freakish speed. And he lasted until the 6th Round. What does that tell you? We needed speed and someone to stretch the field last season and they didn't use him. Even when we had injuries at WR. What does that tell you?

 

Maybe he'll stay on as the 6th or 7th WR. MAYBE. But it's insane to think he's going to be a contributor.

Edited April 1, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Don’t forget that Beane might not wanna pay Davis big money if he continues to ascend. There is a legit need at WR. 

 

Sure but wonder if instead they sign Davis and let Diggs go?  But agree either way, they need a top WR.

 

Will admit now that signed Bates and Bottenger, drafting a RB maybe in the 2nd doesn't sound as bad as less holes.  Especially true if they sign/trade for a CB before the draft.

[Warcodered]

If only his breakout WR powers weren't sealed all of last season by that Mummie's curse.

[babulator]

I came here expecting a Gabe Davis thread. 🤔

[Bruffalo]

Banking on late round guys to be breakout players is an objectively awful teambuilding strategy.  Guys like Gabe Davis are the exception to the rule, not the expected norm.

WR is a major need, in my opinion (and I hope that opinion is shared by Beane).  Having effective weapons that are cost controlled is really important to the future of the Bills.

[TailgateChef]

20 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

He was sitting behind great WRs. He was a late rd rookie, what did you expect? And he made the active roster late in the year. 

He has freakish speed. 

I can only find a 4.45 for his 40.  Am I missing something?  Diggs ran a 4.46, and I would not call him freakish in the speed department.  Fast, can run from most corners, but not Tyreek Hill fast.

[billsherd]

You mean Hodgins?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

49 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

His name is Marquez Stevenson. With the Crowder acquisition, re signing McKenzie and Davis being as good as I believe he is, I think we're good at WR. Also the beauty of having a Stefon Diggs is he'll bring great intensity and leadership to the WR room and bring out the best from the younger guys.

 

Stevenson was 1st team all ACC in 18 and 19 and has freakish speed. He seemed to gain confidence in the coaching staff with his late season return duties.

 

Dude, Stevenson "gained so much confidence" with his late-season return duties that he was literally inactive for the final game of the season and both playoff games, while McKenzie got back into the return game.

 

He took a total of 6 offensive snaps.  He had 2 fumbles (and I believe 1 or 2 muffs, in addition)

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Marquez Stevenson turn into a player we could count on, but until he shows a little bit more, we'd better not count.

 

 

[TC in St. Louis]

He was very good in preseason.....anybody remember the catch he made vs. Green Bay, I think, on 4th down.....50 yards downfield....set up the winning score.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

13 minutes ago, TailgateChef said:

I can only find a 4.45 for his 40.  Am I missing something?  Diggs ran a 4.46, and I would not call him freakish in the speed department.  Fast, can run from most corners, but not Tyreek Hill fast.

 

4.37 according to this source. 

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Marquez-Stevenson-WR-Houston

 

So far I have to say he plays slower than his 40 time (IMO)

[qwksilver]

If this is a team where we are expected to be 7-10, then 5th and 6th rounders from the previous year are expected to contribute. We are super bowl contenders, he'll be lucky to make the team..

Edited April 1, 2022 by qwksilver

[Motor26]

I thought this was going to be a Gabe Davis thread and was mildly disappointed when it wasn’t.

[Solomon Grundy]

42 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

I had hopes for him. But we needed speed last season and the coaches didn't use him, which speaks volumes. And when he got his shot at being the return man, he showed a proclivity for putting the ball on the ground. Both he and Hodgins were end of the draft picks that have shown nothing. They aren't people you count on.

It's kinda hard to throw deep against teams playing a two high safety shell on defense. Once the Bills get a RB that defenses fear (wink)😉, then maybe they can utilize Stevenson speed

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

His name is Marquez Stevenson. With the Crowder acquisition, re signing McKenzie and Davis being as good as I believe he is, I think we're good at WR. Also the beauty of having a Stefon Diggs is he'll bring great intensity and leadership to the WR room and bring out the best from the younger guys.

 

Stevenson was 1st team all ACC in 18 and 19 and has freakish speed. He seemed to gain confidence in the coaching staff with his late season return duties. 

 

Davis takes Sanders role. Crowder takes Beasleys role. McKenzie can play in or out and Stevenson can be what McKenzie was last year.

 

I could totally see a Diggs , McKenzie and Stevenson 3 WR set. I think he could at least be a Hardman type of WR WR because his pure speed is super elite and will always gain attention for his deep threat ability.  

 

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a WR in rd 5 or later but we quietly built a really good WR room even with 2 veteran losses. Hodgins is also sitting there as a total wildcard. He might not cut it in the NFL but he's only going on year 3

 

What yall think? 

His college tape is insane! 

 

 

 

Sir,

 

What in his first year led you to believe this?

 

I mean as a bills fan I WANT this to happen.......but he literally couldnt even handle special teams duties.

 

Hell.....Lil Dirty was BETTER at returns even with the botched one that ended up in a turnover.......Lil Dirty ran some back for touchdowns only to get called back.

 

As a actual on the field on offense receiver?   What did Stevenson show in his first year to make you even believe this?

[NewEra]

As long as we never have to see him as a return man again!!  

[BillsFanForever19]

3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

It's kinda hard to throw deep against teams playing a two high safety shell on defense. Once the Bills get a RB that defenses fear (wink)😉, then maybe they can utilize Stevenson speed

 

They didn't utilize him at WR all season long. Not even when they had injuries. Two high safeties had nothing to do with it. They obviously didn't like what they saw in practice.

Edited April 1, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[prissythecat]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

His name is Marquez Stevenson. With the Crowder acquisition, re signing McKenzie and Davis being as good as I believe he is, I think we're good at WR. Also the beauty of having a Stefon Diggs is he'll bring great intensity and leadership to the WR room and bring out the best from the younger guys.

 

Stevenson was 1st team all ACC in 18 and 19 and has freakish speed. He seemed to gain confidence in the coaching staff with his late season return duties. 

 

Davis takes Sanders role. Crowder takes Beasleys role. McKenzie can play in or out and Stevenson can be what McKenzie was last year.

 

I could totally see a Diggs , McKenzie and Stevenson 3 WR set. I think he could at least be a Hardman type of WR WR because his pure speed is super elite and will always gain attention for his deep threat ability.  

 

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a WR in rd 5 or later but we quietly built a really good WR room even with 2 veteran losses. Hodgins is also sitting there as a total wildcard. He might not cut it in the NFL but he's only going on year 3

 

What yall think? 

His college tape is insane! 

 

 

 

 

Da’Rick Roger’s tape was insane.  I heard he also led the SEC back in receiving back in the day.  He’s available too.
 

Edited April 1, 2022 by prissythecat
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[Special K]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

His name is Marquez Stevenson. With the Crowder acquisition, re signing McKenzie and Davis being as good as I believe he is, I think we're good at WR. Also the beauty of having a Stefon Diggs is he'll bring great intensity and leadership to the WR room and bring out the best from the younger guys.

 

Stevenson was 1st team all ACC in 18 and 19 and has freakish speed. He seemed to gain confidence in the coaching staff with his late season return duties. 

 

Davis takes Sanders role. Crowder takes Beasleys role. McKenzie can play in or out and Stevenson can be what McKenzie was last year.

 

I could totally see a Diggs , McKenzie and Stevenson 3 WR set. I think he could at least be a Hardman type of WR WR because his pure speed is super elite and will always gain attention for his deep threat ability.  

 

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a WR in rd 5 or later but we quietly built a really good WR room even with 2 veteran losses. Hodgins is also sitting there as a total wildcard. He might not cut it in the NFL but he's only going on year 3

 

What yall think? 

His college tape is insane! 

 

 

 

I made this joke in the Tua thread last week, and I think it applies here:

 

I’d like to welcome Marquez Stevenson’s Mom to the board!

[klos63]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

I don't remember any game off the top of my head that Hodgins was active for. 

Like I said, the coaching staff seemed to gain alot of trust in Stevenson as the season went on. 

Which coaching staff are you referring to and can you give any examples of this trust?  I thought he was one of the least impressive players I've seen in some time. Maybe he'll show something this season, but I have no expectations.

[JerseyBills]

10 minutes ago, Special K said:

I made this joke in the Tua thread last week, and I think it applies here:

 

I’d like to welcome Marquez Stevenson’s Mom to the board!

Haha. I'll take that.. 

I'm surprised at the negative vibes in here. 

I understand he's unproven but just the fact he was on the active roster , after being on IR is a sign to me that the staff does like him. McD and Hall are some very intense, detail oriented coaches. They're obviously intrigued by something in his game. 

 

Hodgins hasn't touched an active roster in 2 years for example.  

We're a legit SB contender, of course he's going to be on a short leash his rookie year but I'm just saying, i wouldn't be surprised to see him with a role on next year's offense. 

Edited April 1, 2022 by JerseyBills

[Big Turk]

All I remember about Stevenson is he had the worst instincts as a return man I have ever seen and I held my breath every time he had one because he literally ran into his own players and ended up in some interesting situations.

[JerseyBills]

8 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Which coaching staff are you referring to and can you give any examples of this trust?  I thought he was one of the least impressive players I've seen in some time. Maybe he'll show something this season, but I have no expectations.

Just the fact he was active after a stint on ir in his rookie year gives me hope that the coaches feel he can be an X factor on this O. 

This is a legit SB roster after all.

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

His name is Marquez Stevenson. With the Crowder acquisition, re signing McKenzie and Davis being as good as I believe he is, I think we're good at WR. Also the beauty of having a Stefon Diggs is he'll bring great intensity and leadership to the WR room and bring out the best from the younger guys.

 

Stevenson was 1st team all ACC in 18 and 19 and has freakish speed. He seemed to gain confidence in the coaching staff with his late season return duties. 

 

Davis takes Sanders role. Crowder takes Beasleys role. McKenzie can play in or out and Stevenson can be what McKenzie was last year.

 

I could totally see a Diggs , McKenzie and Stevenson 3 WR set. I think he could at least be a Hardman type of WR WR because his pure speed is super elite and will always gain attention for his deep threat ability.  

 

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a WR in rd 5 or later but we quietly built a really good WR room even with 2 veteran losses. Hodgins is also sitting there as a total wildcard. He might not cut it in the NFL but he's only going on year 3

 

What yall think? 

His college tape is insane! 

 

 

 

I would be SHOCKED if Stevenson ever becomes a meaningful contributor to this team, for all the reasons many other posters are pointing out.  But if somehow you actually call this shot, I will consider you a prophet.

Edited April 1, 2022 by strive_for_five_guy

[JerseyBills]

7 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

I would be SHOCKED if Stevenson ever becomes a meaningful contributor to this team, for all the reasons many other posters are pointing out.  But if somehow you actually call this shot, I will consider you a prophet.

This is what I dont understand.  He was a late rd rookie on a stacked WR corps and was activated immediately after coming off ir. 

 

I don't think it's a stretch at all that he could develop into a Mecole Hardman type of WR

Especially with Chad Hall coaching him up. 

You can teach and coach up alot of things but raw speed isn't one of em.

🤷‍♂️ We'll see. I'll definitely be re posting this around week 10.  I truly believe that

[klos63]

12 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Just the fact he was active after a stint on ir in his rookie year gives me hope that the coaches feel he can be an X factor on this O. 

This is a legit SB roster after all.

Didn't they take him off kick returns late in the season?  I would love to be wrong about him, but I saw nothing from him last season, not one thing to make me feel good about his future.