Virgil Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I haven't even begun to think about this upcoming draft and I know the Beane isn't a huge trade up guy. Beane likes to acquire picks and we have a lot of depth spots to fill. However, with the recent moves and cap spending, is there a difference maker that will be there at 10 or higher, that's worth us trading up for? From my little research, there isn't a WR that would be worth it. I'm actually inclined to take that WR from Bama who is hurt. I'd be all for a versatile LB that could wreak some havoc. Every other position we need, seems like there's plenty of depth and solid starters. I know a lot are clamoring for that DT who ran a crazy fast 40, but I think our D-Line is set now. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 They will need some cheap contracts so i think they’ll draft where they are. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I highly doubt we're moving up early. We need to keep the cupboard stocked with cheap draft talent moving forward. I do think we may use those 4 late picks (2-6, 2-7) to move around in the middle rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 How can you view CB as solid with Tre coming of a knee injury and might not be ready to start the season and Levi gone. CB is a big need 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said: How can you view CB as solid with Tre coming of a knee injury and might not be ready to start the season and Levi gone. CB is a big need You misunderstand me, or I'm dumb. There are plenty of DB's in this draft that we can get in the first 3 rounds that can easily start. I don't see DB as a position we would need to trade up for 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Virgil said: You misunderstand me, or I'm dumb. There are plenty of DB's in this draft that we can get in the first 3 rounds that can easily start. I don't see DB as a position we would need to trade up for Nope your analysis makes sense. Outside of "Sauce" Gardner from Cincinnati there's not a CB worth giving of picks for who won't be there when we drafted at 25 Edited March 17, 2022 by BillsFanThru-N-Thru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The places we need the most help at seem to be pretty deep from what I can tell. There isn’t a “must have” player at a position of weakness we need to move around for. When Free Agency has come to an end we can take a look at our needs and get an idea of where we may go. CB is the most glaring need with Levi leaving and Tre still recovering. We need depth at O-line for sure, and may want to look at TE after OJ leaves next year. I can absolutely see us going WR with Cole leaving town too. Those positions luckily are stacked for the most part. We just need to sit tight and let the board fall as it may. BPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: I haven't even begun to think about this upcoming draft and I know the Beane isn't a huge trade up guy. Beane likes to acquire picks and we have a lot of depth spots to fill. However, with the recent moves and cap spending, is there a difference maker that will be there at 10 or higher, that's worth us trading up for? From my little research, there isn't a WR that would be worth it. I'm actually inclined to take that WR from Bama who is hurt. I'd be all for a versatile LB that could wreak some havoc. Every other position we need, seems like there's plenty of depth and solid starters. I know a lot are clamoring for that DT who ran a crazy fast 40, but I think our D-Line is set now. Anyone? I was writing a similar thread but deleted it because i dont think there is that superstar that will put us over the top. Im hoping we can land WR Jameson Williams of Alabama do to his injury. Runs a 4.25 with decent size. But we definitely should trade those later round picks to get better picks in the middle rounds, because those late round picks arent making this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I don't see a trade up that's worth it, but I'm all for a slight trade back. As you said, this draft is deep at CB (and WR) so we could move back a little and get an extra mid-round pick that could be worth something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 It feels like the Bills are destined to pick both a WR and a CB in the first two rounds. They’re so willing to spend on the lines that they could really use cost-controlled rookie contracts at the WR and CB positions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsh1031 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Best course of action is to stay put at #25 in my opinion. The very top of the draft may not be as star-studded compared to years' past, but the depth all the way through to Pick #25 is solid. While the top 6-7 players may be in a tier above, I think the grades from players 8-30 or so are pretty similar, so I would let the board come to us and simply grab the highest rated player to fall in our lap at 25, ideally a WR or CB...I'm fairly optimistic that one of Olave, Burks, J. Williams, London, Stingley, McDuffie, or Booth will be available at our pick. 25 is a perfect spot to be in this year's draft. Stay put and don't waste the assets to move up in Round 1. Edited March 17, 2022 by jshalt31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Virgil said: You misunderstand me, or I'm dumb. There are plenty of DB's in this draft that we can get in the first 3 rounds that can easily start. I don't see DB as a position we would need to trade up for I see maybe 7-8 CBs that are day 1 starters. I expect them all to be gone by rd 2. There are others who could develop into starters but I don't think should be rushed. I'd move up to the late teens for a CB. The ones available around 25 are good players who are slightly shorter than I'd like. Edited March 17, 2022 by ndirish1978 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) @ndirish1978 You think 25% of the first round picks will be DB's? I'm not saying your wrong, because I have no idea, but wow Edited March 17, 2022 by Virgil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: I see maybe 7-8 CBs that are day 1 starters. I expect them all to be gone by rd 2. There are others who could develop into starters but I don't think should be rushed. The problem is out of those guys Gardner, Stingley, McDuffie, Gordon, Booth, Kaiir Elam, Roger McCreary are all going before the Bills pick in round 2. The only one that even remotely has a shot is Kyler Gordon in my opinion. If we want a day 1 starter at CB we have to draft one at 25. I'm in agreement with you but the top 7 guys dont make it to Bills round 2 pick. The next best guy is arguable amongst Emerson, Bryant, Woolen etc that next tier but thats a pretty steep fall off like your saying. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Sauce Gardner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: @ndirish1978 You think 25% of the first round picks will be DB's? I'm not saying your wrong, because I have no idea, but wow I don't think he said that they would all be first round picks, they just wouldn't make it to the Bills end of the 2nd round pick. I easily see McCreary, Gordon, and Elam being 2nd rounders but going before the Bills make their selection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Virgil said: @ndirish1978 You think 25% of the first round picks will be DB's? I'm not saying your wrong, because I have no idea, but wow A little less, I said by the end of round 2. I expect Stingley, Gardner, McDuffie, Booth, Elam to be gone in rd 1. I expect Gordon, Woolen, McCreary gone in rd 2. 4 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: The problem is out of those guys Gardner, Stingley, McDuffie, Gordon, Booth, Kaiir Elam, Roger McCreary are all going before the Bills pick in round 2. The only one that even remotely has a shot is Kyler Gordon in my opinion. If we want a day 1 starter at CB we have to draft one at 25. I'm in agreement with you but the top 7 guys dont make it to Bills round 2 pick. The next best guy is arguable amongst Emerson, Bryant, Woolen etc that next tier but thats a pretty steep fall off like your saying. Agreed, I think CB needs to be the pick in Rd 1 unless we get a solid starter in FA, it's the biggest hole on the team by far now. At 25 you're probably looking at Elam or Gordon and they would both be a little but overdrafted there. Most of the mocks I'm looking at have CBs going in the 11-20 range. Edited March 17, 2022 by ndirish1978 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I could see the Bills moving back and loading up picks rounds 2-5. That’s where the depth of this draft is. And contracts will be much smaller than first rounders. Bills add CB, WR, RB, IOL, P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 39 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: They will need some cheap contracts so i think they’ll draft where they are. Agreed on this. Actually, I would not be surprised to see the Bills even work their way down the board a little bit to pick up an extra body or two. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pete said: I could see the Bills moving back and loading up picks rounds 2-5. That’s where the depth of this draft is. And contracts will be much smaller than first rounders. Bills add CB, WR, RB, IOL, P I'm leaning toward this as well. Obviously, if someone who they have an R1 grade on slips, they take him; otherwise a move back might be wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I think if one of the CBs slips (Duffie, Booth) they'll pounce, otherwise I see a trade back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Pete said: I could see the Bills moving back and loading up picks rounds 2-5. That’s where the depth of this draft is. And contracts will be much smaller than first rounders. Bills add CB, WR, RB, IOL, P This, or I could see them trading back into the bottom of Rd 1 if there's someone they like who could be a day 1 starter in order to get the extra year of a rent controlled contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I think they'll stay put and have some combo of CB, WR, C/G in rounds 1-3. Leaning towards taking that C/G in the 3rd, depending how the draft falls. No moving up since the real difference makers will be going too high to get to from #25. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 If we decide to take a WR at 25 whether that’s a Williams or Dotson, I would try and trade back up into the 30-35 range. Then I’d grab Breece Hall. Williams/Dotson + Breece Hall = super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Let's not get all crazy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, Pete said: I could see the Bills moving back and loading up picks rounds 2-5. That’s where the depth of this draft is. And contracts will be much smaller than first rounders. Bills add CB, WR, RB, IOL, P They have 9 picks already. I can't foresee more than 3-4 rookies making the final squad There is no need to add more picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, B-Man said: They have 9 picks already. I can't foresee more than 3-4 rookies making the final squad There is no need to add more picks. Yes but 4 of those 9 are in the last 2 rounds. I don’t think they will trade back but if they did, it would add a higher mid round pick like a late 3 or early 4. Don’t want them to trade completely out of the first round though because of that 5th year option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I rather trade out of first and get two twos with a willing partner with picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I think they'll stay put and have some combo of CB, WR, C/G in rounds 1-3. Leaning towards taking that C/G in the 3rd, depending how the draft falls. No moving up since the real difference makers will be going too high to get to from #25. LB is a position to watch out for, as of now Edmunds is playing on his 5th year and a looming UFA. I do agree with this list btw, rd1-3 will depend on talent on the board. Beane may move a bit for who he wants or if a position is getting thin and there is a talent dropoff though; he always does. He is a very open GM, well as open as he can be, and he usually doesn't move from what he said... Also, this seems to be a fairly deep draft, which make me think next year's might be looking light... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: LB is a position to watch out for, as of now Edmunds is playing on his 5th year and a looming UFA. I do agree with this list btw, rd1-3 will depend on talent on the board. Beane may move a bit for who he wants or if a position is getting thin and there is a talent dropoff though; he always does. He is a very open GM, well as open as he can be, and he usually doesn't move from what he said... Also, this seems to be a fairly deep draft, which make me think next year's might be looking light... I would LOVE to be able to grab Nakobe Dean in the 1st, but I dont think we do even if he is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 No because I still want a veteran DB over a rookie. No way we can go into the season with the current CB depth chart as is + draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: I would LOVE to be able to grab Nakobe Dean in the 1st, but I dont think we do even if he is there. Depends who else is on the board... Do we really tie up money in 2 LB contracts? Not trying to be that guy either...even though I usually am. It comes down to what hole we want and what the prospects are of filling the hole in FA vs a long time partner in a position we value. I do wonder,if at this moment, CB2 is that important on our team. Not sure there is a perfect answer for this, other than we will find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I would LOVE to be able to grab Nakobe Dean in the 1st, but I dont think we do even if he is there. We seem to have our eye on that Penn St LB Brandon Smith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Very deep draft this year. No trading up. Trading back is a possibility to garner extra picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said: Nope your analysis makes sense. Outside of "Sauce" Gardner from Cincinnati there's not a CB worth giving of picks for who won't be there when we drafted at 25 I would move up for Gardner or Stingley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nitro said: Very deep draft this year. No trading up. Trading back is a possibility to garner extra picks. Lol you know of the right player is there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, B-Man said: They have 9 picks already. I can't foresee more than 3-4 rookies making the final squad There is no need to add more picks. Agree. We need quality, not quantity. We have most of the pieces in place. Getting cb’s or wr’s on rookie deals is the way to go early in the draft. Beane has already hinted he would try to move up if they saw someone dropping that they rated highly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Depends who else is on the board... Do we really tie up money in 2 LB contracts? Not trying to be that guy either...even though I usually am. It comes down to what hole we want and what the prospects are of filling the hole in FA vs a long time partner in a position we value. I do wonder,if at this moment, CB2 is that important on our team. Not sure there is a perfect answer for this, other than we will find out. Drafting Dean would allow us to move on from Edmunds and have only 1 real LB contract (Milano). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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