BillsFan692 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Someone help me out here and tell me what you think the projection is as far as starters/backups go for our new defensive line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 DE- Miller DT- Oliver DT- Settle DE- Rousseau 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) I think it's pretty straightforward: Miller - Oliver - Jones (maybe Settle) - Rousseau 1 minute ago, MJS said: DE- Miller DT- Oliver DT- Settle DE- Rousseau Jones probably compliments Oliver more, whereas Settle is more supplementary. But I'm sure we'll see various combinations. Edited March 17, 2022 by Richard Noggin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Miller, Oliver, Jones, Rousseau. Epenesa, Phillips, Settle, Basham. Still waiting on Settle and Phillips to officially sign, think the delay is due to money moving around. Beane doesn’t want to push a penny down the line he doesn’t need too. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I’d say it’s too early. Lot of chatter of Jordan Phillips being signed. I wouldn’t rule out Akiem Hicks until he’s signed somewhere (Just my opinion he’ll join a contender on the cheap) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 id really like to keep jerry if possible. hes a nice secondary punch to spell rousseau/ miller. let him come in more fresh after tackles been beat tf up! if rousseau makes even a nice step forward look outttttttttt 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: id really like to keep jerry if possible. hes a nice secondary punch to spell rousseau/ miller. let him come in more fresh after tackles been beat tf up! if rousseau makes even a nice step forward look outttttttttt Many speculate that the bills are just ready to move on for him... but maybe no one else shows interest and we can get him back for a cheap cheap price? 5 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I’d say it’s too early. Lot of chatter of Jordan Phillips being signed. I wouldn’t rule out Akiem Hicks until he’s signed somewhere (Just my opinion he’ll join a contender on the cheap) How do you guys feel about phillips though? I'd feel good about it -- he played pretty good for us when he was here. 10 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think we'll sign Hughes or Addison and Phillips, cut Star. Rotation looks like this. Rousseau - Jones - Oliver - Miller Basham - Phillips - Settle - Hughes/Addison Epenesa is going to get traded is my guess. I just can't see them trading Epenesa for some reason but maybe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsFan692 said: How do you guys feel about phillips though? I'd feel good about it -- he played pretty good for us when he was here. Phillips to me is just a guy who will have to make the most of every snap he sees in practice to make the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: I think it's pretty straightforward: Miller - Oliver - Jones (maybe Settle) - Rousseau Jones probably compliments Oliver more, whereas Settle is more supplementary. But I'm sure we'll see various combinations. Yeah, we'll see. I'm really liking what I hear about Settle and what a hard worker and impact player he can be. Maybe they play him and Oliver on obvious pass rush downs and Jones is in on 1st and 2nd down for run stuffing? 32 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said: How do you guys feel about phillips though? I'd feel good about it -- he played pretty good for us when he was here. I was against re-signing Phillips at the time and I'm not too excited to sign him back now. Phillips is not a scheme guy. He does one thing and that's go after the QB. He doesn't play sound football. He doesn't fill appropriate gaps. He is a liability at times. He is a physical force, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Pain!!!!!! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 DE- Miller, Basham 3 Tech- Oliver / Settle / Phillips 1 Tech- Jones, Star DE- Rousseau, Epenesa We could draft another DE or sign another vet on the cheap and that's what I think the Dline looks like this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Rousseau, Jones, Oliver, Miller Basham, Settle, Phillips, Hughes Trade Epenesa for a 7th, Cut Star, Draft a DT, Sign a couple UDFA for training camp bodies Keep 9 this year not 10. If you keep bring back Hughes, Miller could play some OLB in a 3-4 alignment or if Milano misses some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, MJS said: DE- Miller DT- Oliver DT- Settle DE- Rousseau De-Miller 3T-oliver 1T-Jones DE- rousseau Settle for jones on passing downs, but jones was pretty good getting pressure last year too. If the IDL can cause a ruckus, our DEs are gonna eat. Bring back Jerry!!! Someone start a petition! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: IEpenesa is going to get traded is my guess. I could give you another red cross but think i will go this way... No.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: De-Miller 3T-oliver 1T-Jones DE- rousseau Settle for jones on passing downs, but jones was pretty good getting pressure last year too. If the IDL can cause a ruckus, our DEs are gonna eat. Bring back Jerry!!! Someone start a petition! I don't want Jerry back, personally. But I understand those who do. I'd rather let the younger guys get some playing time and development. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocky Landing Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Is it possible we see some 4-3 formations with Miller lined up at Sam, or Will? Do we start blitzing once in a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, NewEra said: De-Miller 3T-oliver 1T-Jones DE- rousseau Settle for jones on passing downs, but jones was pretty good getting pressure last year too. If the IDL can cause a ruckus, our DEs are gonna eat. Bring back Jerry!!! Someone start a petition! God I'd love to see Jerry hoist a Lombardi. Considering all the ref crap he's had to deal with. From what I've read, Settle is slightly better than Jones. Groot should be able to step up his game with Von chasing qbs back toward him. AJE just didn't pop this season and I'd try trading him with Edmunds. Phillips, Jones and Boogie will rotate as depth. Please give your top 4 at least 60% of the snaps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Miller, Oliver, Jones, Rousseau. Epenesa, Phillips, Settle, Basham. Still waiting on Settle and Phillips to officially sign, think the delay is due to money moving around. Beane doesn’t want to push a penny down the line he doesn’t need too. You know Star is still here right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam727 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Has Von Miller played DE in a 4-3 defense lately? (Or in our case 4-2-5?) I'm really happy the Bills went all in on a top tier pass rusher and I trust Beane, but for some reason I thought Von Miller would not be a great scheme fit for us? His strength seems to be rushing in open space from the OLB spot? Can the Bills find ways to move Von Miller around or is he definitely just RDE? If so any concern he doesn't play as well at that position? Edited March 17, 2022 by Adam727 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Miller is really good at stunting so I expect some interesting stunts with him and Ed because of their mobility. I hope Jerry comes back on the cheap to win with us. If he does, AJ can’t make this roster. He’s the worst guy standing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: God I'd love to see Jerry hoist a Lombardi. Considering all the ref crap he's had to deal with. From what I've read, Settle is slightly better than Jones. Groot should be able to step up his game with Von chasing qbs back toward him. AJE just didn't pop this season and I'd try trading him with Edmunds. Phillips, Jones and Boogie will rotate as depth. Please give your top 4 at least 60% of the snaps. Settle and jones are much different, but both very solid players imo. Our DL is very good now. I think it might be the best in the league if we have Jerry too. I have my doubts about epenesa and I think Basham will be a steady depth player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think we'll sign Hughes or Addison and Phillips, cut Star. Rotation looks like this. Rousseau - Jones - Oliver - Miller Basham - Phillips - Settle - Hughes/Addison Epenesa is going to get traded is my guess. Beane never gives up on a high draft pick that quickly and besides I think he has a long way to go and wil have a good season finally next year…. 13 minutes ago, NewEra said: Settle and jones are much different, but both very solid players imo. Our DL is very good now. I think it might be the best in the league if we have Jerry too. I have my doubts about epenesa and I think Basham will be a steady depth player. Nah, we don’t have an great players in their prime even. Like Pittsburgh has Hayward and Watt and SD has two, the raiders have two even if Chandler is past his prime. Washington has four I believe… we’re not even close but it is a lot better after today…. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Locomark said: Miller is really good at stunting so I expect some interesting stunts with him and Ed because of their mobility. I hope Jerry comes back on the cheap to win with us. If he does, AJ can’t make this roster. He’s the worst guy standing. A GM has to make tough and hard choices and Jerry is nowhere near his prime, he should retire. I. Love the guy but this is business. We are in the business of winning a SB…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: Beane never gives up on a high draft pick that quickly and besides I think he has a long way to go and wil have a good season finally next year…. Nah, we don’t have an great players in their prime even. Like Pittsburgh has Hayward and Watt and SD has two, the raiders have two even if Chandler is past his prime. Washington has four I believe… we’re not even close but it is a lot better after today…. Yeah, other teams have more elite players We have 8-9 good players, one of which is HoF and still playing well. He dominated the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Settle and jones are much different, but both very solid players imo. Our DL is very good now. I think it might be the best in the league if we have Jerry too. I have my doubts about epenesa and I think Basham will be a steady depth player. I really like the DL they are assembling and I would not be surprised if Jordan Phillips ends up here as well. I think this was a very good overall defense last year; however, the two areas where they really suffered was having that game changer in the pass rush and the interior of the DL against the run. I think they are exponentially better now in both areas. In clear passing situations, they now have the ability to get consistent pressure with just the front four. Obviously, Miller gives them that game changer, Oliver and Settle provide good penetration along the interior, and Rousseau, IMO, may actually benefit the most form the addition of Miller and more interior pressure. In the run game, both Miller and Rousseau are good against the run and the addition of Jones, Settle, and possibly Phillips, gives them the ability to really seal off the interior. I would love to see Hughes come back (playing maybe 30-35 % of snaps) as well; however, even if he doesn't, I believe this line has become more athletic and aggressive, and has the ability to become one of the best in the league against both the pass and the rush. Edited March 17, 2022 by billsfan1959 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think we'll sign Hughes or Addison and Phillips, cut Star. Rotation looks like this. Rousseau - Jones - Oliver - Miller Basham - Phillips - Settle - Hughes/Addison Epenesa is going to get traded is my guess. Doubt they trade Epenesa. I don't see Basham at DE as much as DT. IMO it'll be Hughes/Epenesa as the platoon DEs. We'll see, though. It'll really depend on how they play at OTAs and in camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Doubt they trade Epenesa. I don't see Basham at DE as much as DT. IMO it'll be Hughes/Epenesa as the platoon DEs. We'll see, though. It'll really depend on how they play at OTAs and in camp. Depends on numbers imo. They might not bring in anyone else. They might keep 6 DE's like last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Someone help me out here and tell me what you think the projection is as far as starters/backups go for our new defensive line? I think it looks like this looking at it from Left to Right or (RT to LT) DE - Von Miller / Epenesa DT - DaQuan Jones / J. Phillips DT - Ed Oliver / Settle DE - Groot (Takes Hughes Side) / Basham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: You know Star is still here right? He's not going to be cut because of cap ramifications. It's cheaper to keep him...unfortunately. It would be nice for him to hit the all you can eat buffets not to mention the weight room. Last year was such a disappointment. Edited March 17, 2022 by fasteddie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Turk Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, fasteddie said: He's not going to be cut because of cap ramifications. It's cheaper to keep him...unfortunately. It would be nice for him to hit the all you can eat buffets not to mention the weight room. Last year was such a disappointment. He played pretty well up until he got COVID, let's not have changing memories of how he played because it's been 8 months since then and you have recency bias. Edited March 17, 2022 by Big Turk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Big Turk said: You know Star is still here right? For now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: For now Doubt he is getting cut this year, it costs too much for not much savings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think we'll sign Hughes or Addison and Phillips, cut Star. Rotation looks like this. Rousseau - Jones - Oliver - Miller Basham - Phillips - Settle - Hughes/Addison Epenesa is going to get traded is my guess. Why do people assume Addison or Hughes will be back but Epenesa will get traded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: We're just here to do the Chippewa Shuffle? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Georgie said: Why do people assume Addison or Hughes will be back but Epenesa will get traded? Because Addison and Hughes can actually play in the NFL, and Epenesa looks like a bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 hours ago, NewEra said: Yeah, other teams have more elite players We have 8-9 good players, one of which is HoF and still playing well. He dominated the playoffs In the playoffs, Miller had Aaron Donald tying up 2 sometimes 3 blockers, we don't have an Aaron Donald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Big Turk said: You know Star is still here right? Yah but if he got beat out by Harry at the end of last year he could be a healthy scratch each week with this line up but i would hope it motivates him to play better . Or maybe Beane could get a draft pick for him maybe package him to a needy team to move up or down to get rid of the dead cap money he carries . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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