BillsFanForever19 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Well, this team does pretty much exclusively want to pass. So if you can’t get the targets here, you aren’t getting them anywhere. And what of Gabe Davis? Are you comfortable keeping him as the 3rd highest in reps and surely receptions? You'll lose him when his rookie deal is up for someone who can give him more playing time and a team that will pay him, which we won't be able to do after paying Diggs and Metcalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: And what of Gabe Davis? Are you comfortable keeping him as the 3rd highest in reps and surely receptions? You'll lose him when his rookie deal is up for someone who can give him more playing time and a team that will pay him, which we won't be able to do after paying Diggs and Metcalf. Reminder..........Gabe Davis has put an average of 574 yards in his first two seasons..........Metcalf has averaged over 1,000 yards per year in his 3. Actually producing in volume matters. I'm not predicting that Gabe is going to fail..........but to put it in perspective...........he hasn't actually had a more impressive regular season than 2018 Robert Foster yet. Foster put up 541 yards at a clip of 20 yards per reception and a catch rate over 60%............and he has practically vanished since. Sometimes small sample sizes don't translate..........and that's all we've gotten from Gabe so far.........reportedly in part because of nagging ankle and foot injuries in 2020-2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Does anyone really think that Metcalf would be a process guy? Don't see it happening. Then get rid of the process and keep Metcalf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Metcalf is a guy that has given inconsistent effort after a really impressive rookie season, and has been prone to really bad body language on the field. I think it was the Seahawks last playoff game where Metcalf got upset with his opportunities, then Wilson started forcing the ball to him and his lack of effort lead to an interception. I remember thinking to myself what an unfortunate development for the Seahawks because I thought the guy was about to enter the top WR in the league discussion. Insane talent, but pressing the issue hurt the team and shows a lack of perspective. Even if it comes from a place of competitiveness it can still hurt the team and is selfish. Now what is going on with that organization is a different story, but I’m not sure he is a guy that helps the Bills as much as we might think he would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) Bears fans are asking to trade for Seahawks WR D.K. Metcalf https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-fans-are-asking-to-trade-for-seahawks-wr-d-k-metcalf/ Could the Las Vegas Raiders trade for DK Metcalf? https://justblogbaby.com/2022/03/03/smart-raiders-trade-dk-metcalf/ 3 Reasons Cleveland Browns should trade for DK Metcalf https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/03/09/3-reasons-cleveland-browns-dk-metcalf/ Should the NY Jets attempt to trade for D.K. Metcalf? https://jetsxfactor.com/2022/03/08/should-ny-jets-trade-dk-metcalf/ Edited March 9, 2022 by HOUSE 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 The Bills should setup camp outside the Seahawks facility and have this in place for their fire sale. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Gabe Davis is our #2. We don’t need Metcalf. His effort sucks anyways. No thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 DK to Pats? Anyone else hearing that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I'm not one to think Metcalf makes the Bills Offense measurably better when Davis is a very viable option AND it appears the Bills will be looking for a new slot WR, be it draft or FA. I think he's very talented and an athletic freak, but I've also seen in some games a demeanor or attitude I don't care for - especially given the core of the locker room. Lockett seems to be a better fit for the Bills in terms of talent and persona. However, I'd rather see the Bills add a CB, DL, TE2, and two WRs - one for the slot and one for pure speed to stretch the Defense, before adding a player like Metcalf. And that's nothing against him as a talent or WR, it's that I think the Bills have the aforementioned need *before* they really need to spend the Draft capital on a WR of Metcalf's type. JMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: DK to Pats? Anyone else hearing that? They could get Jerry Rice in his prime and it won't make a difference with Noodle Arm at QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) I don't see this lust for WRs . We won on offense. Offense was good enough to win the SB last year. Defense blew it. We need defensive hammers, not more gaudy wideouts. Edited March 9, 2022 by RichRiderBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said: I don't see this lust for WRs . We won on offense. Offense was good enough to win the SB last year. Defense blew it. We need defensive hammers, not more gaudy wideouts. Beasley most likely isn't coming back. Sanders is leaning towards retirement ( from what I have read) so the Bills do need WR's be it FA or draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Ayjent said: Metcalf is a guy that has given inconsistent effort after a really impressive rookie season, and has been prone to really bad body language on the field. I think it was the Seahawks last playoff game where Metcalf got upset with his opportunities, then Wilson started forcing the ball to him and his lack of effort lead to an interception. I remember thinking to myself what an unfortunate development for the Seahawks because I thought the guy was about to enter the top WR in the league discussion. Insane talent, but pressing the issue hurt the team and shows a lack of perspective. Even if it comes from a place of competitiveness it can still hurt the team and is selfish. Now what is going on with that organization is a different story, but I’m not sure he is a guy that helps the Bills as much as we might think he would. 'Doesn't play well with others'...🤔 * Damn that 'conduct' side of the report card! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Cody Ford for DK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Reminder..........Gabe Davis has put an average of 574 yards in his first two seasons..........Metcalf has averaged over 1,000 yards per year in his 3. Actually producing in volume matters. I'm not predicting that Gabe is going to fail..........but to put it in perspective...........he hasn't actually had a more impressive regular season than 2018 Robert Foster yet. Foster put up 541 yards at a clip of 20 yards per reception and a catch rate over 60%............and he has practically vanished since. Sometimes small sample sizes don't translate..........and that's all we've gotten from Gabe so far.........reportedly in part because of nagging ankle and foot injuries in 2020-2021. Davis over 2 years has shown he's at least worthy of a #2. He can play inside and out, blocks well, good red zone threat. 125 targets 70 Catches 1148 yards 13 TDs I'd still like to see a dedicated slot WR player, as well as using a pick to further bolster the depth at the position. Sanders, mckenzie, and beasely is a ton of targets. Assume they sign a TE2 (and draft a TE3). They still need a dedicated slot WR (preferably take the bease role and mckenzie role), and someone as rotational depth outside. Metcalf pushes davis back down the depth chart for another year, costs draft capital, and will want a big fat raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 How about we just draft a WR with that 1st round pick? I hear there are some ok prospects this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Gabe Davis is our #2. We don’t need Metcalf. His effort sucks anyways. No thanks DK Metcalf Chases Down Budda Baker After INT | NFL Week 7 - YouTube Edited March 9, 2022 by What a Tuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie's Bills Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: DK Metcalf Chases Down Budda Baker After INT | NFL Week 7 - YouTube I was just about to post this haha. No effort? Not a process guy? Sureee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, RichRiderBills said: I don't see this lust for WRs . We won on offense. Offense was good enough to win the SB last year. Defense blew it. We need defensive hammers, not more gaudy wideouts. We can have both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Josh Allen would get 5500 yards and 60 touchdowns if we got Metcalf to form the deadly Fab Four: Diggs, Metcalf, Davis, and Knox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Gabe Davis is our #2. We don’t need Metcalf. His effort sucks anyways. No thanks 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: He felt like it that day, but not on others.... 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 20 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Does anyone really think that Metcalf would be a process guy? Don't see it happening. Who cares? Bills need a new process that gets them past the Chiefs in the playoffs. A single 1st rounder won't do it though.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: Gabe Davis is our #2. We don’t need Metcalf. His effort sucks anyways. No thanks Are you sure it isn't your effort that sucks? You couldn't even make up a better lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Who cares? Bills need a new process that gets them past the Chiefs in the playoffs. A single 1st rounder won't do it though.. A single first rounder *might*.........but agree that it's not nearly as likely as many fans believe.........it's about a 50/50 proposition that a 1st rounder even plays well enough that the team picks up their 5th year option. And this draft is particularly full of boom or bust or slow developing types in round 1, IMO. Daniel Jeremiah said it best IMO...........the strength of this draft will be the ability to get 2nd round talents in the 4th round. It's the depth of athletes. But a strength is not likely to be getting players who tear it up statistically as rookies. People are freaking out about the numbers that the 3 Georgia DL put up at the combine..........but the 3 of them only combined for 10 sacks in 2021. Expectations for first rounders are always too high but probably going to be even more unreleastic with this class. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 At what point are we more worried about signing good players so <insert team> won't get them, than their actual fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, benderbender said: At what point are we more worried about signing good players so <insert team> won't get them, than their actual fit? What are you even talking about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 https://larrybrownsports.com/football/video-dk-metcalf-heated-seahawks-sideline/571551 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ayjent said: https://larrybrownsports.com/football/video-dk-metcalf-heated-seahawks-sideline/571551 So you don't like Diggs either? Also the article states he came back and scored a 51 yard TD... Edited March 10, 2022 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 It seems like some fans are always trying to bury our own talent.... I see a bunch of threads "Sign Gronk" so we're burying Dawson Knox who's coming into his own as 1 of the better tight ends in the league? "Sign D.K. Metcalf", Davis just snagged 4 TD catches in the freakin playoffs, what does this man have to do to get respect? I feel like were great at TE and have a solid duo in Diggs/Davis. I think we'll need a solid slot WR since it looks like Beasley is gone and there are some decent ones out there and I'd really like them to bring back Emmanuel Sanders who unfortunately had some injury issues and didn't really get to showcase his talents but provides really good depth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Gronk is a completely different Tight End than Knox. If Gronk is signed, my guess is that would mean more 2 Tight End sets. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: It seems like some fans are always trying to bury our own talent.... Let Robert Foster EAT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 36 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Let Robert Foster EAT! the arm on that boy is shocking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, colin said: the arm on that boy is shocking! Thinking that Robert Foster was going to evolve into a WR1 or stud WR2..........coming off a Gabe Davis like 500+ yard 20 ypc season........could very well be why the Bills passed on the likes DK Metcalf and AJ Brown and instead traded up for Cody Ford. 🤢 This is why you don't just take for granted that players will keep improving @BuffaloBillsGospel. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: It seems like some fans are always trying to bury our own talent.... I see a bunch of threads "Sign Gronk" so we're burying Dawson Knox who's coming into his own as 1 of the better tight ends in the league? "Sign D.K. Metcalf", Davis just snagged 4 TD catches in the freakin playoffs, what does this man have to do to get respect? I feel like were great at TE and have a solid duo in Diggs/Davis. I think we'll need a solid slot WR since it looks like Beasley is gone and there are some decent ones out there and I'd really like them to bring back Emmanuel Sanders who unfortunately had some injury issues and didn't really get to showcase his talents but provides really good depth. They see a name and come up with a trade or FA signing. The game is more complicated. Metcalf might want to be a WR1. Then you get drama. Draft a WR3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Seeing rumors in Chiefs land that they might trade their 1st rounder (30 overall) for Metcalf. If it happens that's a very scary proposition trying to defend an offense with Kelce/Hill/Metcalf. Probably would be looking at another 2007 Patriots type of team and offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nitro said: They see a name and come up with a trade or FA signing. The game is more complicated. Metcalf might want to be a WR1. Then you get drama. Draft a WR3. Metcalf wanting to be a WR1 doesn't matter in an offense with an elite QB. It's like Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne...........didn't matter who #1 was because Manning would feed both. I don't really think the Bills are going to get Metcalf but a lot of the concerns about the possibility aren't as big of a deal as many think. Metcalf is a proven full season stud and for people worrying about maybe losing Gabe Davis eventually.........Gabe only has 1 more year of team control than Metcalf. One of them is likely getting a big new contract in the next 18 months either way. It's not like trading for Stefon Diggs and then watching Minnesota get an even better WR with the primary pick they acquired from Buffalo..........while having Jefferson for dirty cheap for 4 years.........while the Bills are paying Diggs around $15M aav. And we aren't unhappy with that deal, are we? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Seeing rumors in Chiefs land that they might trade their 1st rounder (30 overall) for Metcalf. If it happens that's a very scary proposition trying to defend an offense with Kelce/Hill/Metcalf. Probably would be looking at another 2007 Patriots type of team and offense. It is an arms race. The past two champions have loaded up with stars and been rewarded. And you could argue that the Chiefs did as well when they added Sammy Watkins at $16M per year and then traded for Frank Clark...........and while Sammy didn't pan out to be a WR1 he did come up huge for them in the playoffs for 2 years. Standing pat and being conservative is why the 2010's Green Bay Packers perennially fell short in the playoffs............the Bills might take note of that...........waiting until Josh Allen is 35 to push the envelope might not be a good strategy in a league with lot's of good young QB's entering. Go get it or be ready to go home early again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It is an arms race. The past two champions have loaded up with stars and been rewarded. And you could argue that the Chiefs did as well when they added Sammy Watkins at $16M per year and then traded for Frank Clark...........and while Sammy didn't pan out to be a WR1 he did come up huge for them in the playoffs for 2 years. Standing pat and being conservative is why the 2010's Green Bay Packers perennially fell short in the playoffs............the Bills might take note of that...........waiting until Josh Allen is 35 to push the envelope might not be a good strategy in a league with lot's of good young QB's entering. Go get it or be ready to go home early again. Arms race indeed. And this is what scares me the most about Beane and what the Bills do this offseason (unless the Pegula's interfere and make demands of course)...holding firm signing lesser tier FA's and not giving up any draft picks. Of course I'll reserve final judgement until I see what happens in the coming weeks but the time is now to do something out of character if you are Beane and not have blind faith in all this 'process' crap 6 years into the regime. There's simply too many good teams in the AFC and most are about to get much better considering some of the cap room available (Dolphins will be big time players). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 That Gabe fella we got is pretty solid. Probably end up having a better career then Metcalf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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