Hebert19 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 He never seemed to get going in Tampa but some of that was because they had other weapons at their disposal. I'd imagine he would be looking for a prove it deal with a good QB to try and hit a payday next year. If we don't go after gronk I would definitely take a flier on him. 5 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I don’t mind it but He never really got going with Brady who targets TEs frequently. I think I would like a flyer on Evan Engram better if the money was similar. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Yes, as long as the price is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 If so, we can NOT call him Juice 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He never seemed to get going in Tampa but some of that was because they had other weapons at their disposal. I'd imagine he would be looking for a prove it deal with a good QB to try and hit a payday next year. If we don't go after gronk I would definitely take a flier on him. OK, did you really come up with this or are you taking what Joe B's article in yesterdays Athletic suggested? LOL Actually was a good all around take on which FA's to resign, who to draft and who to go after in FA. Went through a bunch of contract adjustments to make to free up money, who to cut, etc so the money all worked including who you'd then sign. Along with signing Howard he suggested; Fitz, Joe Mixon, Adam Humphries, Jeff Wilson, & Connor McDermott. And he suggested they resign Phillips, Hughes, Bates, and Kumerow and down the road Zimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: I don’t mind it but He never really got going with Brady who targets TEs frequently. I think I would like a flyer on Evan Engram better if the money was similar. Both of them, along with Noah Fant are head scratchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Im open to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 No, for two reasons. 1. Pedestrian production. Bucs were using him as a blocker. With TB12 and his 5,000 passing yards at the helm. 2. Not many players come completely back from a full tear of the Achilles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: If so, we can NOT call him Juice We will go a different route and call him "The Pulp" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 32 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He never seemed to get going in Tampa but some of that was because they had other weapons at their disposal. I'd imagine he would be looking for a prove it deal with a good QB to try and hit a payday next year. If we don't go after gronk I would definitely take a flier on him. OJ Howard already has proved what he's got. No. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, ddaryl said: We will go a different route and call him "The Pulp" Groan 34 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: He never seemed to get going in Tampa but some of that was because they had other weapons at their disposal. I'd imagine he would be looking for a prove it deal with a good QB to try and hit a payday next year. If we don't go after gronk I would definitely take a flier on him. I was high on him coming out, but he has never produced. I would take a flyer on a proven pass catcher or draft an athletic TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 But what about our comp picks!?!?!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I would probably lean towards a better blocker. James O'Shaughnessy, Kyle Rudolph, Geoff Swaim come to mind as guys who are #2's and considered very good blockers. Eric Tomlinson is one of the better guys, but he offers very little as a receiver. What I would do is sign Patrick Ricard. He is technically a fullback who provides great blocking, but can also play tight end, H back, and defensive end. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Yes if they can't get Gronk. Would be huge upgrade over Sweeney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebillzfan Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: Both of them, along with Noah Fant are head scratchers. I would sign fant if it made sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: OK, did you really come up with this or are you taking what Joe B's article in yesterdays Athletic suggested? LOL Actually was a good all around take on which FA's to resign, who to draft and who to go after in FA. Went through a bunch of contract adjustments to make to free up money, who to cut, etc so the money all worked including who you'd then sign. Along with signing Howard he suggested; Fitz, Joe Mixon, Adam Humphries, Jeff Wilson, & Connor McDermott. And he suggested they resign Phillips, Hughes, Bates, and Kumerow and down the road Zimmer Has Joe B. ever heard of comp picks? Damn! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: OJ Howard already has proved what he's got. No. Agree, you either find the cheapest way to sign Gronk or draft Sweeney's replacement in the mid rounds. Howard does nothing to move the needle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: OK, did you really come up with this or are you taking what Joe B's article in yesterdays Athletic suggested? LOL Actually was a good all around take on which FA's to resign, who to draft and who to go after in FA. Went through a bunch of contract adjustments to make to free up money, who to cut, etc so the money all worked including who you'd then sign. Along with signing Howard he suggested; Fitz, Joe Mixon, Adam Humphries, Jeff Wilson, & Connor McDermott. And he suggested they resign Phillips, Hughes, Bates, and Kumerow and down the road Zimmer They said he was going to be a cap casualty. Did not read the article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Shaw66 said: OJ Howard already has proved what he's got. No. Agreed @Shaw66! The reincarnation of Lonnie Johnson. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 No more OJ's, one was enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Lots of decent tight ends in the draft this year, would rather grab one of them if we don’t get Gronk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Sure, if we don’t get Gronk. He needs the Bills more than the Bills need him, so I could see a $2-3m deal with incentives. Worth a flier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 9:43 AM, ddaryl said: We will go a different route and call him "The Pulp" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 11:40 AM, dpberr said: No, for two reasons. 1. Pedestrian production. Bucs were using him as a blocker. With TB12 and his 5,000 passing yards at the helm. 2. Not many players come completely back from a full tear of the Achilles. Yup. He’s basically a bust that somehow made the cut numerous times in Tampa. I’m actually surprised he’s still in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Howard has already proven that he's not a very productive player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 He reminds me of evan engram...potential threat...but play was never good enough to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 36 minutes ago, nucci said: Howard has already proven that he's not a very productive player Those are the type of guys worth taking a chance on like a Jordan Phillips. Instead of signing JAGs to $5m per year. Sign guys like Howard to vet minimum deals and let somebody else pay them next year when they get good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Those are the type of guys worth taking a chance on like a Jordan Phillips. Instead of signing JAGs to $5m per year. Sign guys like Howard to vet minimum deals and let somebody else pay them next year when they get good. vet minimum yet you just posted this.... so I could see a $2-3m deal with incentives. Worth a flier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 11:11 AM, Hebert19 said: He never seemed to get going in Tampa but some of that was because they had other weapons at their disposal. I'd imagine he would be looking for a prove it deal with a good QB to try and hit a payday next year. If we don't go after gronk I would definitely take a flier on him. Howard needs to “prove it”, prove something before I’d take a flyer on him. I’d rather go in the draft before overpaying for Howard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, nucci said: vet minimum yet you just posted this.... so I could see a $2-3m deal with incentives. Worth a flier. https://frontofficenfl.com/2020/05/25/2020-nfl-cba-explained-contract-incentives-ltbe-nltbe/ Since he had 14 catches for 135 catches last year and was 3rd string, you could structure the contract where you pay him say $1.5m base and put some NLTBE (Not Likely To Be Earned) incentives that should be a slam dunk for him to earn as the #2 behind Knox and raise his comp to around $2.5-3m but still only counts $1.5m cap for 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 Figured I would be this. Boom! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Ask and you shall receive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 No way they get Gronk now that Tommy is coming back .the jury is still out on Howard worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 This thread aged well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 10:40 AM, Freddie's Dead said: No more OJ's, one was enough. Too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hebert19 Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 I just want to see this freak for 1 year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 11:11 AM, Hebert19 said: He never seemed to get going in Tampa but some of that was because they had other weapons at their disposal. I'd imagine he would be looking for a prove it deal with a good QB to try and hit a payday next year. If we don't go after gronk I would definitely take a flier on him. Nah, never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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