Billy Claude Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: I read that the NFL works very closely with these gambling companies. I wouldn’t be shocked if draftkings and fanduel scrub their databases every now and then for the names of nfl players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 The more I think about this the more I think Ridley should either join the current lawsuit or file a lawsuit of his own against the NFL. Owners allegedly offering coaches 500K to throw games. Ridley loses out on Millions over $1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Calvin Ridley losing $11MM for a $1,500 bet makes me feel way better about my gambling problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Rocket scientist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 The rules are the rules and they have to be followed. Definitely a stupid stupid move on his part. With that said the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Max two game suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Get’r done, Beane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Magox said: The rules are the rules and they have to be followed. Definitely a stupid stupid move on his part. With that said the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Max two game suspension. The Dolphins and Browns owners absolutely agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: 48 minutes ago, Magox said: The rules are the rules and they have to be followed. Definitely a stupid stupid move on his part. With that said the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Max two game suspension. He definitely had inside information - it was on his own team and he saw how well his QB avoided sacks and how well his line protected including likely scheme he would play against opponent. It business this would be called inside trading. No way he was returning to the team and have QB say "You betting against me?" There would be a question every time he was to get the ball that the QB set him to be hit. He could even talk to opposing person on upcoming opposing defense he knows and say "We know we are not going to win. We both should take advantage of this - you by getting lots of hits on WRs maybe even a fumble by you knowing tell I will use and I by having this teammate who bet against me be feeling it in morning." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Big Turk said: So much for the Bills trading for him... Official Statement from NFL: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1500933743279808514/photo/1 Pete Rose wants to know what the big deal is. 🤷♂️ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I want to know how he got caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 🤣🤣🤣🤣... Can he spin this into a gambling issue now too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, krf139 said: I want to know how he got caught https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_Sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, krf139 said: I want to know how he got caught He went to Florida and had to place a bet with the only app allowed in that state and they report to a watchdog site that reports to the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Suspend someone for a year for gambling pennies but look the other way at gun issues, domestic violence and even child abuse (Tyreek). Sounds about right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, krf139 said: Suspend someone for a year for gambling pennies but look the other way at gun issues, domestic violence and even child abuse (Tyreek). Sounds about right Problem is the judicial system typically let's these guys off the hook. Don't blame the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Billy Claude said: This will inspire many NFL players to have a friend make their bets for them. This problem isn’t going away with more states legalizing gambling and the NFL getting in bed with these companies. The fall of Rome is upon us. 2 hours ago, krf139 said: Suspend someone for a year for gambling pennies but look the other way at gun issues, domestic violence and even child abuse (Tyreek). Sounds about right Apples and oranges comparison. Those crimes don’t have the potential to impact the actual games on the field like gambling does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Limeaid said: He definitely had inside information - it was on his own team and he saw how well his QB avoided sacks and how well his line protected including likely scheme he would play against opponent. It business this would be called inside trading. No way he was returning to the team and have QB say "You betting against me?" There would be a question every time he was to get the ball that the QB set him to be hit. He could even talk to opposing person on upcoming opposing defense he knows and say "We know we are not going to win. We both should take advantage of this - you by getting lots of hits on WRs maybe even a fumble by you knowing tell I will use and I by having this teammate who bet against me be feeling it in morning." I mean what was he hoping to accomplish? Win an extra $500? The dude makes millions already. It was incredibly stupid. It would be like someone getting fired from a job paying $150K for stealing loose change. You need to gamble, go bet on horses. Edited March 8, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 6 hours ago, That's No Moon said: When's the last time anyone gambled on the WWE? It not a huge market but people can place bets on certain sites for WWE matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpbills Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Lifetime ban would send a message. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mjpbills said: Lifetime ban would send a message. That's a bit harsh on a 1st offense. 1 year suspension is pretty strong. 2nd offense should be a lifetime ban. Edited March 8, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpbills Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 It worked on pete rose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 having a team in LV will go swell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: That's a bit harsh on a 1st offense. 1 year suspension is pretty strong. 2nd offense should be a lifetime ban. Especially since he wasn't even actively playing at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I don't understand how it is legal for an gambling company to report him to the NFL. I assume if I go to Florida, make a bet on the app and they won't be reported to my employer. Is there something in the CBA that the players have to sign off on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Pete Rose has a lifetime ban. Based on that precedent alone the NFL will at least consider not letting him play again. 5 minutes ago, Billy Claude said: I don't understand how it is legal for an gambling company to report him to the NFL. I assume if I go to Florida, make a bet on the app and they won't be reported to my employer. Is there something in the CBA that the players have to sign off on? When you open an account you submit to all of their terms and conditions. They can share your information with the government, contracted monitoring companies, etc. One of said companies is contracted by the NFL to investigate possible violations of league rules w/r/t NFL players/staff betting. Odds are your employer doesn't give a damn whether you gamble so long as 1) it doesn't affect your work product and 2) you aren't using company information to do so. The problem with Calvin Ridley is while he might not have been playing, how sure can we be about 2? How can the books and the shield assure their customers that this is all on the up and up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 17 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Bring him in! Just hide him under the SJF bleachers with Russ Brandon. 😁 As if the concept of Russ Brandon weren't creepy enough, ya had to go and let me know that he's lurking under the SJF bleachers? God... Now I can't even go to training camp 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, ROCBillsBeliever said: As if the concept of Russ Brandon weren't creepy enough, ya had to go and let me know that he's lurking under the SJF bleachers? God... Now I can't even go to training camp 😭 Unless you're a younger woman in a skirt, you'll probably be relatively safe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Billy Claude said: I don't understand how it is legal for an gambling company to report him to the NFL. I assume if I go to Florida, make a bet on the app and they won't be reported to my employer. Is there something in the CBA that the players have to sign off on? I would assume so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: Especially since he wasn't even actively playing at the time. Still under contract though. Rules are rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Turk71 said: It not a huge market but people can place bets on certain sites for WWE matches. So you'd agree the market for betting on a known predetermined event is much smaller than the gambling market for an actual sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Unless you're a younger woman in a skirt, you'll probably be relatively safe. Fair enough, LOL! Edited March 8, 2022 by ROCBillsBeliever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 4:06 PM, Albany,n.y. said: What if a player's wife bets on the games instead of the player? Father, mother, brother, sister, etc. A player can have others place his bets & say he knows nothing about it. How would they prove anything? Smart players who want to put bets in will have others making their bets for them. You make a great point there Harvey. I am NOT going to make excuses for this dumb decision but the truth is, Ridley was placed in foster care for years. His father abandoned the family and his mom was said to have issues. I'm not sure that he has a family member that he can trust or turn to. At Alabama, he (and other players) had Coach Saban to keep them under control. Ridley btw is an excellent player. I have seen comments saying that Alabama players tend to be overrated and play well because of the system and the talent around them. This is usually far from the truth. What admittedly IS a problem is how some of these kids handle themselves when they no longer have to answer to Saban. I have seen Saban toss the top college prospects in the country off the team if they act out. A kid named Antonio Alfano might have been the #1 rated player in H.S. at one point. He came to camp and lit it up in spring practice and the famous "A" Game. He started acting out and Saban threw him right off of the team. The truth is that if you get kicked off of the Crimson Tide, it is bound to cost you millions of dollars. I have been seeing FAR to many of these Alabama kids get weird when they get away from Saban and to the NFL, to include Ridley, Dareus, Ruggs, and Reuben Foster. All of them were headed for greatness and seemingly tossed it away. Do you remember Foster? I truly believe that he would have been the best LB in the NFL if he didn't get himself in all of that trouble. He could cover, he was lightning fast, strong as a bull and mean as a snake. Do we think that Fournette is a tough guy? He is but check this out..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Major NFL suspensions: Ray Rice: beating fiancé; 2 games Adrian Peterson: felony child abuse; 6 games Greg Hardy: beating gf; 10 games reduced to 4 Ezekiel Elliot: hitting women; 6 games Calvin Ridley: 17 games for using FanDuel Josh Gordon: 6 seasons for smoking weed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, nucci said: Major NFL suspensions: Ray Rice: beating fiancé; 2 games Adrian Peterson: felony child abuse; 6 games Greg Hardy: beating gf; 10 games reduced to 4 Ezekiel Elliot: hitting women; 6 games Calvin Ridley: 17 games for using FanDuel Josh Gordon: 6 seasons for smoking weed You can literally run someone over with your car and go to jail for a year or two. Tax evasion? You are going away for a long time. These are just weird incongruities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 4:11 PM, That's No Moon said: You absolutely 100% cannot have even a sliver of doubt about the sanctity of the result of a game. Once you do your product is finished. Ridley is lucky to only get a year IMO. Somebody tell that to NFL officiating please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 6:14 AM, mjpbills said: Lifetime ban would send a message. what message....have someone else place your bets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 6:14 AM, mjpbills said: Lifetime ban would send a message. What's that message? Do as the NFL says not as they do? On 3/7/2022 at 4:11 PM, That's No Moon said: You absolutely 100% cannot have even a sliver of doubt about the sanctity of the result of a game. Once you do your product is finished. Ridley is lucky to only get a year IMO. We're well past slivers of doubt in the sanctity if the result of a game. League is still going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: What's that message? Do as the NFL says not as they do? There's one rule. Don't bet on sports. Especially don't bet on your own sport. This has been drilled into him since his first week as a student-athlete at Alabama. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) On 3/9/2022 at 11:07 AM, Bill from NYC said: You make a great point there Harvey. I am NOT going to make excuses for this dumb decision but the truth is, Ridley was placed in foster care for years. His father abandoned the family and his mom was said to have issues. I'm not sure that he has a family member that he can trust or turn to. At Alabama, he (and other players) had Coach Saban to keep them under control. Ridley btw is an excellent player. I have seen comments saying that Alabama players tend to be overrated and play well because of the system and the talent around them. This is usually far from the truth. What admittedly IS a problem is how some of these kids handle themselves when they no longer have to answer to Saban. I have seen Saban toss the top college prospects in the country off the team if they act out. A kid named Antonio Alfano might have been the #1 rated player in H.S. at one point. He came to camp and lit it up in spring practice and the famous "A" Game. He started acting out and Saban threw him right off of the team. The truth is that if you get kicked off of the Crimson Tide, it is bound to cost you millions of dollars. I have been seeing FAR to many of these Alabama kids get weird when they get away from Saban and to the NFL, to include Ridley, Dareus, Ruggs, and Reuben Foster. All of them were headed for greatness and seemingly tossed it away. Do you remember Foster? I truly believe that he would have been the best LB in the NFL if he didn't get himself in all of that trouble. He could cover, he was lightning fast, strong as a bull and mean as a snake. Do we think that Fournette is a tough guy? He is but check this out..... NFL is full of shoulda coulda woulda Saban like most college coaches are de facto rulers.. they run the show so there's not much foolery going on opposed to NFL They treat them like kids because they're kids.. no weekends out in Vegas or anything like that When they leave and go to the NFL.. the NFL doesn't babysit them like saban.. the league treats them like adults Then their true being starts to shine when they're not getting babysitted 24 hours a day for four seasons... They didn't get weird after they left Alabama They always had it in them and Nick Saban controls them.. you don't get controlled in the NFL Edited March 10, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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