Stefon Diggs extension thoughts

[BarleyNY]

36 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Bump

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/brandon-beane-don-t-see-163135511.html

 

Brandon Beane: I don’t see Stefon Diggs’ contract being an issue
 

Bills General Manager Brandon Beane doesn’t believe there’s any concern that Diggs is unhappy.
 

“We’ve got Stefon for two years so we know that. At the right time we’ll work with his reps and see if there’s something to be done that works for him,” Beane said. “He’s a winner.
 

He’s all in on winning and, sure, everybody wants to be paid but he wants to be on a winning team. I think he’s been the best version of himself. So I don’t see that being an issue.”

Florio is so slimy.  Those Beane quotes are from a week ago - before the Hill trade and new deal.  They play a little differently if people think they were on the heels of that.  He’s just trying to stir the pot. 

[Laughing Coffin]

Bills are in the window with an elite QB where you can live in the day 2 of the draft and grab difference makers that all get elevated because of our godlike QB.  I love having a top elite WR but paying one isn't the smartest thing to do given the talent we have at QB.

Also I recognize diggs is a great WR, but he's the Tre White of WRs.  All technique, nothing about him physically that causes unsolvable problems for an opposing defense.  He can be schemed out.  

[Buffalo716]

11 hours ago, Laughing Coffin said:

Bills are in the window with an elite QB where you can live in the day 2 of the draft and grab difference makers that all get elevated because of our godlike QB.  I love having a top elite WR but paying one isn't the smartest thing to do given the talent we have at QB.

Also I recognize diggs is a great WR, but he's the Tre White of WRs.  All technique, nothing about him physically that causes unsolvable problems for an opposing defense.  He can be schemed out.  

Reggie Wayne says hi

[JGMcD2]

“Contracts get done when they’re supposed to get done.”

 

It’s the 2nd time Beane has said something like this when asked about Diggs. 
 

It sounds a lot like “when not if” when it comes to Diggs. 

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

“Contracts get done when they’re supposed to get done.”

 

It’s the 2nd time Beane has said something like this when asked about Diggs. 
 

It sounds a lot like “when not if” when it comes to Diggs. 

Exactly the way he sounded about Allen and we all know how terrible that turned out. 

[Mat68]

10 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Exactly the way he sounded about Allen and we all know how terrible that turned out. 

They probably wanted to do it next year.  Bates signs and an offer sheet, still need a cb.  Best way to create cap space is extending Diggs.  I think it happens.  Allen wants him here.  If you are Beane it solves alot of issues.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said:

“Contracts get done when they’re supposed to get done.”

 

It’s the 2nd time Beane has said something like this when asked about Diggs. 
 

It sounds a lot like “when not if” when it comes to Diggs. 

 

I don't understand why people conceptualize Diggs as stamping his feet and insisting that the Bills give him a new contract RIGHT NOW. 

 

Beane has said multiple times that he likes to work on extensions after FA and the draft.

This timeline works to Diggs benefit, as he and his agents get to watch all the trades and FA signings re-set the market.

 

Players get paid by the week during the season so it's not like he's collecting low-ball salary checks at the moment.

 

 

 

[just1hugheser]

What about trading him for 5 picks; a 1st, 2nd, 4th and 4th and 6th rounders the next year, ??

[Dopey]

Josh has his say. If Josh wants Diggs to stay, Beane will find a way. 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1507865196802494466?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1507867527963021316|twgr^|twcon^s2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-20813426881423966419.ampproject.net%2F2203101844000%2Fframe.html

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, just1hugheser said:

What about trading him for 5 picks; a 1st, 2nd, 4th and 4th and 6th rounders the next year, ??

No

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Stefon Diggs has no-showed twice against Kansas City when it mattered. 

 

The 2020 AFCCG and again in the Divisional 2021. 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Stefon Diggs has no-showed twice against Kansas City when it mattered. 

 

The 2020 AFCCG and again in the Divisional 2021. 

 

You think Gabe gets all those 1v1 looks against a safety if Diggs isn't out there?

[Mr. WEO]

22 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Exactly the way he sounded about Allen and we all know how terrible that turned out. 

 

JA's impact on this team's fortunes is orders of magnitude larger than Diggs's.  Your franchise QB's second contract gets done.  Your WR1 comes and goes--ask the Vikings.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

JA's impact on this team's fortunes is orders of magnitude larger than Diggs's.  Your franchise QB's second contract gets done.  Your WR1 comes and goes--ask the Vikings.

 

Of course. But you don't need it to be one or the other. You can have both.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

You think Gabe gets all those 1v1 looks against a safety if Diggs isn't out there?

 

Diggs was a boost to this offense. 2800 yards in 2-seasons. 

 

However, there were games last year where I thought the Bills needed to add another #1 level WR to the team. 

 

I don't know that Diggs is worth $28M a year like Adams or Hill.  

 

In the end, I don't want to be Green Bay right now, so I agree, pay him. But Diggs and Davis and McKenzie are not good enough to lead the league in scoring in my opinion. Another top level WR talent needs to be added (trade or draft) to overcome the loss of Daboll, and McDermott's input on offense.

 

I think the Bills will go WR early in the Draft, and I agree with that approach. 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Of course. But you don't need it to be one or the other. You can have both.

 

true but the other poster wasn't making that distinction, but drawing an equivalence in the importance (and risk?) of their new contracts and the expedience in which they get done.  There really isn't a significant equivalence.    

 

3 of the top 5 WR last season have only played 2, 1 and 3 seasons, respectively.  They can wait on Diggs...

[GunnerBill]

43 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

 

Diggs was a boost to this offense. 2800 yards in 2-seasons. 

 

However, there were games last year where I thought the Bills needed to add another #1 level WR to the team. 

 

I don't know that Diggs is worth $28M a year like Adams or Hill.  

 

In the end, I don't want to be Green Bay right now, so I agree, pay him. But Diggs and Davis and McKenzie are not good enough to lead the league in scoring in my opinion. Another top level WR talent needs to be added (trade or draft) to overcome the loss of Daboll, and McDermott's input on offense.

 

I think the Bills will go WR early in the Draft, and I agree with that approach. 

 

 

 

I disagree on your assessment of Diggs. I do agree we need to keep adding WR talent though.

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

true but the other poster wasn't making that distinction, but drawing an equivalence in the importance (and risk?) of their new contracts and the expedience in which they get done.  There really isn't a significant equivalence.    

 

3 of the top 5 WR last season have only played 2, 1 and 3 seasons, respectively.  They can wait on Diggs...

Don't really remember saying any of that.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

Don't really remember saying any of that.

 

"it turned out" the way we all knew it was going to because JA is the franchise and that contract absolutely was a priority.  Beane's comments re: Digg's contract status don't have the same weight or inevitability because it's not the same or similar priority.

[Laughing Coffin]

On 3/27/2022 at 9:39 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Reggie Wayne says hi

thanks for assisting my point?  Reggie Wayne was a good receiver like Diggs is.  Diggs is actually better individually than Wayne.  Look at Wayne's stats decline post being teamed up with Harrison and in his 30s.  He's not and never has been an elite WR that couldn't be schemed out of games.  With a top QB like Allen, I don't see the desire to spend 20m+ on a WR into his 30s.  We should be living in the day 2 of the draft looking for WR talent to allow Allen to elevate

[Buffalo716]

15 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said:

thanks for assisting my point?  Reggie Wayne was a good receiver like Diggs is.  Diggs is actually better individually than Wayne.  Look at Wayne's stats decline post being teamed up with Harrison and in his 30s.  He's not and never has been an elite WR that couldn't be schemed out of games.  With a top QB like Allen, I don't see the desire to spend 20m+ on a WR into his 30s.  We should be living in the day 2 of the draft looking for WR talent to allow Allen to elevate

The dude went for 1300 at 34 and is gonna be a HoFr 

 

Diggs can play at a high level for at least 4 years

Edited March 29, 2022 by Buffalo716

[MAJBobby]

 

[MrEpsYtown]

GM Doug doesn't realize that we now have a GM who knows how the cap works. So we are good. 

[Back2Buff]

1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

GM Doug doesn't realize that we now have a GM who knows how the cap works. So we are good. 

 

Not really.  Beane is banking on the cap skyrocketing due to new TV deals.  Whaley didnt have that.  Whaley also didn't have Pegula bucks.

Edited April 4, 2022 by Back2Buff

[Buftex]

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me.  It seems like it could be headed that way. But, not for 2022.

[Brand J]

If a WR is drafted within the first two rounds this year and proves he can play, next offseason may be very interesting! Diggs no doubt probably wants in the neighborhood of what Adams and Hill got and that’s not possible. An $8M bump to “only” $25M/yr may not be possible. Too many contracts are coming due in the next couple years.

Edited April 4, 2022 by JayBaller10

[Warcodered]

5 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Not really.  Beane is banking on the cap skyrocketing due to new TV deals.  Whaley didnt have that.  Whaley also didn't have Pegula bucks.

Pretty sure he was here when they were the owners.

[The 9 Isles]

Whaley trying to rock the boat of his former employer. 

[Simon Says]

7 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Not really.  Beane is banking on the cap skyrocketing due to new TV deals.  Whaley didnt have that.  Whaley also didn't have Pegula bucks.

"Pegula bucks" are relevant how? Do you mean as in being able to pay upfront bonuses? Otherwise, the salary cap keeps things "equal".

[aristocrat]

Beane needs to hit on 3 starters in the next 2 drafts and we have no issue keeping him. If not we need to think about trading him. 

[bmur66]

Not this year

[warrior9]

I guess based on what happened this off-season, it's fair to speculate that anyone (except Josh) can be traded. This is just Whaley trying to stay relevant. 

[BigDingus]

1 minute ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Not really.  Beane is banking on the cap skyrocketing due to new TV deals.  Whaley didnt have that.  Whaley also didn't have Pegula bucks.

Definitely true. The cap getting a huge increase will help dramatically. Hopefully Diggs will be wanting to stay in Buffalo & not pull a Tyreek, leaving behind a great QB & contending for SBs in favor of just money. 

 

Obviously making more money is important, but being a key member of a good organization that contends for SBs seems more enjoyable than wasting away on the Jets or Texans or something.

 

$25 million/yr on the Jags vs $19 million/yr on the Chiefs/Bills/Bucs/Rams/Bengals.... seems like a no-brainer to me. 

[newcam2012]

I might be in the minority here. I think a Diggs trade is a real possibility. Don't get me wrong I love Diggs and what he brings to the team. Last year, I thought he wasn't as dominate as the previous year. Many games he was a non factor probably due to double teams. He still is an elite number 1 receiver. However, a trade should be considered depending on what the Bills draft and how Davis and others develop. I believe Allen is good enough to win without Diggs. That money can be utilized to bolster the Oline, replace him, and running game. If the price is right I think Beane pulls the trigger. No one thought Adams or Hill would be traded so why not Diggs? Qbs make receivers. Wrs don't make QBs. 

[Mr. WEO]

This clown again??

 

Cue the "Whaley was a great assessor of talent" posts....

 

 

[Greg S]

Not this year. The Miller signing is proof the Bills are going all in to win it this year. Trading Diggs wouldn't make sense for a win now team.

[That's No Moon]

I wouldn't be shocked and Im also not sure it wouldn't be the right move depending on what comes back. Given his age, what his contract demands are sure to be, and the wall that lots of WRs hit around 30 I don't think we want to be the team to write his next contract.

 

If he can be turned into another WR with more years of cheap team control I think that needs to be explored.

[Malazan]

4 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

$25 million/yr on the Jags vs $19 million/yr on the Chiefs/Bills/Bucs/Rams/Bengals.... seems like a no-brainer to me. 

 

If the 25 million answer is the 'no brainer' then yes, it's a no brainer. 

[Matt_In_NH]

This does not seem impossible.  Yes pure speculation but it would not shock me.....given what else has happened with WR's in recent years.

[GolfandBills]

He’s probably more right than wrong with his take.  It’s going to be tough to keep him.  Common theme this off-season is the top paid QBs are losing their #1 receivers