Mic'd up: Kelce outsmarted McDermott/Frazier

[JaCrispy]

One word- McMeathead....

[Niagara Dude]

11 minutes ago, Mark92 said:

I will NEVER watch that game again.  I can't do it.  Even though it was the game Cementing Josh Allen as the best of the best.  

I tried but I throw up watching those two pass plays during final 13 secs,  I just cannot believe what I am watching.  If you were not a fan of either team you would think this game was rigged,  it cannot be possible for an NFL level coach to be that stupid 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Niagara Dude

[QCity]

10 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

It was one one the worse meltdowns in years,  he screwed up bad.  Like why did he not just go up to Bass himself and instruct him to do pop up or squid kick,  this BS of first telling the special teams coach who then never told Bass sounds like a coverup. 

[coloradobillsfan]

48 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Key word is multiple. If we do this once they don’t have 3 seconds to kick the fg

 

Here are all the key words.  You don't get one free down to tackle all their receivers.  

 

ARTICLE 3. INTENTIONAL FOULS TO MANIPULATE GAME CLOCK

A team may not commit multiple fouls during the same down in an attempt to manipulate the game clock.

Penalty: For multiple fouls to run off time from the game clock: Loss of 15 yards, and the game clock will be reset to where it was at the snap. After the penalty is enforced, the game clock will start on the next snap.

[ALLEN1QB]

No to difficult to do. Dumb & Dumber 

[billybrew1]

I don't think the coaches said, don't watch, Kelce.... Our defense was just shot, period.

As long as I watch football, I'll never understand how great players go uncovered through out NFL history but it happens again and again and unfortunately again. At least we're not the only ones.....

Does misery love company! 
Yes.

[y2zipper]

It's a lot more complicated that this.

 

The reason McDermott lost the chess game is because his corner played the wrong leverage. It wasn't play selection.

 

The shell lineup is a disguise, and Kelce is supposed to think that the middle is going to be open. If it's an actual shell, the safeties stay closer to the deep middle and the corners are off on the outside to keep the play in front. When the ay actually develops, the safeties rotate to the outside and the corners are supposed to play the inside. The idea with 8 seconds left there is that Mahomes isn't going to be able to change the read and will either have to throw it away or throw into the double coverage.

 

What's supposed to happen instead is that Wallace is supposed to play inside leverage and funnel Mahomes' pre-snap read toward the safety help so Mahomes either has to throw it into the double coverage or throw it away and go for the hail mary. Instead what happens is that Levi plays the outside and there's no help in the middle.

 

 

 

[beebe]

 

[Niagara Dude]

Can you imagine Allen's parents inn the press box after going crazy just mins before on the Allen to Davis TD? The worse part is the national media make Mahoimes/Kelce/Hill look like they are the greatest to ever play doing the impossible and really both plays were pitch & catch 

[GoBills17]

McD timeout directly allowed Kelce to improvise and beat the coverage and design he saw pre timeout. Not changing coverage or jamming at line or rolling help while keeping 4 defenders 50yrs away is inexcusable. McD was scared from Hill TD earlier and directly helped them setup the backyard play. It’s mind boggling bad 

[Billl]

57 minutes ago, Process said:

We weren't defending against a 20 yard play. We were trying to stop the 90 yard hail mary. 

 

Everyone is desperately trying to find an explanation. I get it.... It still hurts....but there is none. The coaches choked.

 

58 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

The lack of attention to detail here is simply astounding.

 

And while Kelce may go down as the best TE in NFL history when it's all said and done there's simply no excuse to not double or even triple team him and force someone else to beat you.

Did nobody watch the Rams game?  The Buccaneers defended against the shorter throws and Kupp cooked them over the top.  If Kelce had been bracketed, you’d have Hardman and Hill to deal with over the top.  Your Safeties are great, but they can’t run with those guys.  If your strategy is to force Hill to beat you, you’re gonna have a bad time.

[JohnNord]

3 hours ago, beebe said:

 

The video confirms some of the postgame quotes we saw. The Bills timeouts did indeed help the Chiefs. By the way, Kelce didn't speak very quietly even with Addison sitting right there? 

 

And Mahomes barking out his name, as if to say, "Cover him!" It's kinda wild. 

 

infuriating….no clue what happened there 

[Mango]

3 hours ago, zow2 said:

I don't even think i can watch this.  

I came to read the comments. I don’t have it in me yet to click play.

 

A buddy texted me today, “check out the coverage on this play”. I couldn’t do it. Just

sort of feels like trying to throw out your ex’s stuff when you have a blind sided break up. Just can’t do it yet. 
 

My rebound chick is FA and cap management.

 

As far as I am concerned the SB is over. It was played Sunday night. The two best teams of maybe the last decade just beat the shirt out of each other for 4.5 quarters. The best over all defense in the league through 17 weeks vs. the best defense through the back half of the season. Neither could slow down the top 2 QB’s on the planet for 4.5 hours.

 

Everything else is basically WWE marketing and promo material as far as I am concerned. 
 

I can’t relive the heart break yet. 

[Coach Tuesday]

25 minutes ago, y2zipper said:

It's a lot more complicated that this.

 

The reason McDermott lost the chess game is because his corner played the wrong leverage. It wasn't play selection.

 

The shell lineup is a disguise, and Kelce is supposed to think that the middle is going to be open. If it's an actual shell, the safeties stay closer to the deep middle and the corners are off on the outside to keep the play in front. When the ay actually develops, the safeties rotate to the outside and the corners are supposed to play the inside. The idea with 8 seconds left there is that Mahomes isn't going to be able to change the read and will either have to throw it away or throw into the double coverage.

 

What's supposed to happen instead is that Wallace is supposed to play inside leverage and funnel Mahomes' pre-snap read toward the safety help so Mahomes either has to throw it into the double coverage or throw it away and go for the hail mary. Instead what happens is that Levi plays the outside and there's no help in the middle.

 

 

 

I think this is exactly right and what McD meant by “execution.”

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

I know McDermott isn’t as seasoned as Reid, but damn.  This is ridiculous.  I didn’t know that he called two TOs on that drive and did not adjust or change alignments either time.  Wow. 

 

 

He and Frazier had them JUST where they wanted them!

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Let's be honest here.

 

McDermott is no match for Reid.

 

McDermott is playing checkers while Reid is playing chess

 

 

He's playing plinko while Reid is playing go/weichi....

[Steptide]

I hate that I can't move on from this game 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

3 hours ago, beebe said:

Video also confirms Orlovsky's analysis of the play from yesterday.

 

 

Anyone notice Addison being a QB Spy with 13 secs in the game? This is getting worse by the day.

34 minutes ago, Billl said:

 

Did nobody watch the Rams game?  The Buccaneers defended against the shorter throws and Kupp cooked them over the top.  If Kelce had been bracketed, you’d have Hardman and Hill to deal with over the top.  Your Safeties are great, but they can’t run with those guys.  If your strategy is to force Hill to beat you, you’re gonna have a bad time.

Easy way to cover that. 2 man front 9 in coverage just like Parcells and Belicheck did to us in Super Bowl 25.

[Sweats]

Seam was wide open......don't even know why we had anyone on the field at that point.

[Freddie's Dead]

Yup, we already knew that Kelce outcoached McChoke.  Next.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

3 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

The coaches put our safeties 40 yards down field, who was covering Kelce? Or who's assignment was it to cover Kelce? 

Nobody was covering 1 guy everyone was protecting from a TD it’s obvious. McD choose to defend the end zone which was like a 1% chance to score from 75yds with 13 secs left in the game. 

[GoBills17]

Guarding against the Hail Mary at best was dumb and worse playing scared. That is not “championship caliber.” And the most gut punching is fact that the timeout called by McD allowed Kelce to improvise and beat us. If we can see this as fan not sure how he doesn’t lose respect in locker room. 

[billsfan714]

That defense will be shown in coaching clinics on what never to do, for ever.    And  everyone on this planet except Frazier and McD, was saying to themselves cover Hill and Kelce.

 

Actually the more I watch it, the more fascinating it gets, knowing there were professional coaches, earning millions of dollars,  calling this defense.

Edited January 26, 2022 by billsfan714

[GoBills17]

How do you pride yourself on attention to detail and situational football and not kick it high to run click, hold the first play for penalty and then knock down inevitable Hail Mary that likely wouldn’t reach end zone. Sorry new poster but the clearer it becomes the more gut wrenching 

[Forward Progress]

So…. What you’re saying…. Is that our defensive coaching staff was out coached by a TE?

 

 The final 13 seconds really tick me off.  
 

We could have simply played our standard cover 2 shell and given up 10 yards per play and hosted the AFCCG.  We didn’t need to back off into prevent defense and give up 25 yards per play. 

[billsfan714]

7 minutes ago, beantownbill said:

How do you pride yourself on attention to detail and situational football and not kick it high to run click, hold the first play for penalty and then knock down inevitable Hail Mary that likely wouldn’t reach end zone. Sorry new poster but the clearer it becomes the more gut wrenching 

McD said he thought about the hold, which I dont believe because he didnt do it.

[Mr. WEO]

Kelsey:  "lol, oh man....watch this!"

[McBean]

4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

give him a break....McD is "still learning"

 

 

in several more years, he'll figure it out.

Exactly.

 

The guy is an absolute clown show coach and has cost us so bad it makes me sick.

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

Here's Frazier going absolutely berzerker after the Kelce catch..

 

[Billl]

38 minutes ago, GoBills17 said:

How do you pride yourself on attention to detail and situational football and not kick it high to run click, hold the first play for penalty and then knock down inevitable Hail Mary that likely wouldn’t reach end zone. Sorry new poster but the clearer it becomes the more gut wrenching 

What could possibly go wrong with allowing a last second kick return in the playoffs?  Steve Christie, if you’re reading this please weigh in.

[Heitz]

30 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

So essentially Wallace ***** up.

Too late, we've already thrown the coaching staff into the volcano... 🤣  

[Best Williams Available]

2 hours ago, y2zipper said:

It's a lot more complicated that this.

 

The reason McDermott lost the chess game is because his corner played the wrong leverage. It wasn't play selection.

 

The shell lineup is a disguise, and Kelce is supposed to think that the middle is going to be open. If it's an actual shell, the safeties stay closer to the deep middle and the corners are off on the outside to keep the play in front. When the ay actually develops, the safeties rotate to the outside and the corners are supposed to play the inside. The idea with 8 seconds left there is that Mahomes isn't going to be able to change the read and will either have to throw it away or throw into the double coverage.

 

What's supposed to happen instead is that Wallace is supposed to play inside leverage and funnel Mahomes' pre-snap read toward the safety help so Mahomes either has to throw it into the double coverage or throw it away and go for the hail mary. Instead what happens is that Levi plays the outside and there's no help in the middle.

 

 

 

I’m going to amplify this in a vain attempt to get y’all to put down the tar and feathers and point them in the right direction.
 

I have no idea if this is true, but it’s the most parsimonious answer and thus most sensible. When you consider the coaches took 2 time outs to see KC formations and had ample time to scheme—which makes more sense—the coaches being completely inept twice, or one player screwing up royally once?

[GoBills17]

I’m all for giving coaches benefit of the doubt but hard when we had 4 players  40 yards downfield, were playing defense with 7 and in the Kelce and Mahomes pressers after game pointed to knowing seam was open after the timeout. They then hit what was easy throw and catch without even really being contested. Tough to put all the blame on Levi when look at the entire picture 

[Best Williams Available]

1 minute ago, GoBills17 said:

I’m all for giving coaches benefit of the doubt but hard when we had 4 players  40 yards downfield, were playing defense with 7 and in the Kelce and Mahomes pressers after game pointed to knowing seam was open after the timeout. They then hit what was easy throw and catch without even really being contested. Tough to put all the blame on Levi when look at the entire picture 

But what if they were baited to think the seam was open only to have Wallace f&ck up and make it so? If executed correctly,  that’d be kinda brilliant.

[ArtVandalay]

5 hours ago, beebe said:

 

The video confirms some of the postgame quotes we saw. The Bills timeouts did indeed help the Chiefs. By the way, Kelce didn't speak very quietly even with Addison sitting right there? 

 

And Mahomes barking out his name, as if to say, "Cover him!" It's kinda wild. 

 

This is utterly embarrassing. 

 

Bye McD.

[SoMAn]

And there’s good old # 49 - Johnny on the Spot. Mr. First Down. 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

Just curious what are vet players (Hyde, poyer) were thinking or said during this. Unreal.  Who called the defense during the TOs?  Didn’t hear presser from McD but sounds like he didn’t say much.  

[Turk71]

The coaches were exposed as morons, plain and simple. 

[GoBills17]

Yes it would but would you take your chance on playing cat and mouse and baiting Kelce or jamming at line and then having him tightly bracketed by Levi and Milano? If he makes unreal catch in double coverage so be it but that wasn’t even contested. They screwed up the kickoff, didn’t take holding penalty on first down and were outsmarted by Kelce… it just seems to be what happened based on the data points. Just really sucks as if any one of the 3 plays goes different they very likely win. 

[JerseyBills]

Too soon..

[Nextmanup]

5 hours ago, beebe said:

 

The video confirms some of the postgame quotes we saw. The Bills timeouts did indeed help the Chiefs. By the way, Kelce didn't speak very quietly even with Addison sitting right there? 

 

And Mahomes barking out his name, as if to say, "Cover him!" It's kinda wild. 

 

What I find so interesting about this is that for all the hype about coaching, scheming, and so on, there is still ENORMOUS room in the game for athletes to simply go out there, ad lib a little, and make plays.

 

Run to the open spot and I'll throw you the ball.  It doesn't have to be a lot more complicated than that.

 

Makes me realize how important having the horses is.  Gotta have the athletes...that's 98% of the battle.

 

This is encouraging, as I firmly believe Daboll will be gone in a few days.

 

With Josh and guys like Diggs, we should be OK.

 

 

5 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Isn’t football just just incredible?!

 

12 months of planning.

18 Hour Days

7 Days A week

you ignore your kids, ignore your spouse

all in this Alpha Dog mentality to win at all costs.

 

and then …

 

a tight end (best in game mind you) says “huh…the seam is open.”

 

and the all that planning and prep comes down to #15 screaming “do it do it do it”

 

Sports…man.

Your comments echo what I just wrote myself.

 

It's not nearly as complicated as some would have you believe.

 

It's football--not AI development.