Postgame Thread DAMMIT!

[KOKBILLS]

2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

I think the coaching really deserves to be asked some hard questions though.  I think all season it's been highlighted that they're making really questionable decisions at critical moments.

 

That's not to say they're bad coaches.  You can be a poor game manager and a good coach, but I think to deny how they've hurt the team in key moments is kind of foolish.

 

Agreed...They have to get better...This game was so close we needed them on point. We all knew they would not stop KC and Mahomes all together...

 

But the 2...two 3rd and shorts completely taking the ball out of Josh's hands...What is that? And those 13 freaking seconds...That was bad...They're gonna have to answer for that kinda stuff...for sure...

[buffalo2218]

1 minute ago, Man with No Name said:

if they want to fair catch the ball on the 20 or 15, I'll take it!!

At the 20 or 15, as much space as we were giving underneath, I don't think it would have mattered that much

Edited January 24, 2022 by buffalo2218

[newcam2012]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

That requires intelligence from McD & Frazier. They literally had no clue what to do from the kickoff to the final 2 plays.

Sadly I concur. 

[DapperCam]

#1. Hughes and Addison were a step too slow and got way too far upfield the entire first half. Slightly faster, or slightly smarter and we probably get a big lead early.

#2. Play calling got weird and conservative in the middle of the game leading to punts and 3-and-outs (which tired out the defense, screwing us late in the game)

#3. Terrible defensive coaching/scheming lost us the game at the end.

#4. Soft defensive holding allowed the Chiefs to turn 3 points into 7. Chiefs were holding and running illegal pick plays all game with no calls. I really didn't understand that call if they were going to let them play.

 

I hope Daboll and Frazier are gone. Hopefully Buffalo is a destination for good coordinators due to our talent level.

[Bruffalo]

1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Agreed...They have to get better...This game was so close we needed them on point. We all knew they would not stop KC and Mahomes all together...

 

But the 2...two 3rd and shorts completely taking the ball out of Josh's hands...What is that? And those 13 freaking seconds...That was bad...They're gonna have to answer for that kinda stuff...for sure...

I think Daboll likely is out the door with a HC position, so he won't be answering to much.

 

Frankly if Fraiser and Daboll left I don't know how I'd feel, but I don't think I'd be that worried.

[billieve420]

TIme to root for the Bengals and Rams. Can’t stomach another KC super bowl.

[Man with No Name]

1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Agreed...They have to get better...This game was so close we needed them on point. We all knew they would not stop KC and Mahomes all together...

 

But the 2...two 3rd and shorts completely taking the ball out of Josh's hands...What is that? And those 13 freaking seconds...That was bad...They're gonna have to answer for that kinda stuff...for sure...

yup. those calls with josh and the other wasted plays because we decided to get cute when we were in 4 down territory were my biggest gripe until the end of the game made me pretty much forgive those errors. 

 

daboll is okay enough. that's it. just okay. i won't be sad or worried when/if he goes. 

[die hard bills fan]

chiefs got lucky both times on coin flips,  if we won both then  things would have been different.

[Richard Noggin]

1 minute ago, stryker5673 said:

This came down to them having homefield advantage. 

 

If we could've taken care of business against Jacksonville, we would've had an edge in HFA. That's how razor thin that loss is. 

 

Our period of inconsistency during the season hurt us. Also, not having Tre White. 

 

We matched KC tonight. That could've gone either way. Our future is bright. Allen has proved he's elite and should be trusted to rip the ball downfield more. He's a baller. And Gabe Davis is a monster. 

 

If anything, i say try to improve the pass rush and get some corners. 

 

The most important thing is that we absolutely have an elite franchise QB. 

I would even argue Allen ascended to a NEW LEVEL OF QB PLAY during the end of the season and especially during the playoffs. I think Daboll's biggest failure tonight was not recognizing how effing dialed-in his elite QB was, and instead calling a balanced game during the first half. 

 

Eff that. We should have had the ball in Allen's hands for every 3rd down (and beyond). JA17 was ready to be transcendent from the start. We squandered that magic for two+ full quarters.

[KOKBILLS]

5 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said:

I may be wrong, but I always thought there was. I mean yeah, kick it deep and hope Hill doesn't return it, but a squib kick could be fielded and downed without the clock starting

 

I agree...To me it's not the kick at all...For all we know they wanted Bass to kick it just short of the goal line and he just got too much leg into it...We may never know...

 

The 13 seconds are what matters IMHO...

[Fan in Chicago]

12 minutes ago, Sandhill Mike said:

 

Too funny... my wife and I had the same conversation!

Not funny but my wife said the game is over when 13 seconds were left. My friends started texting congratulations and my response was "I am a Bills fan. The game is not over till the clock reads all zeros"

Edited January 24, 2022 by Fan in Chicago

[stryker5673]

Just now, Richard Noggin said:

I would even argue Allen ascended to a NEW LEVEL OF QB PLAY during the end of the season and especially during the playoffs. I think Daboll's biggest failure tonight was not recognizing how effing dialed-in his elite QB was, and instead calling a balanced game during the first half. 

 

Eff that. We should have had the ball in Allen's hands for every 3rd down (and beyond). JA17 was ready to be transcendent from the start. We squandered that magic for two+ full quarters.

I agree. That's what I said. They need to trust his talent at this point. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

2 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

TIme to root for the Bengals and Rams. Can’t stomach another KC super bowl.

Plus that seems likely to be super entertaining. Would not mind Burrow or Stafford winning it. 
 

Jimmy G or Mahomes 🤮 

[Success]

2 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

TIme to root for the Bengals and Rams. Can’t stomach another KC super bowl.

I'm all in on the Chiefs.

 

As long as we're out, another SB win for them makes it harder for them to keep players. Everyone on a team like that demands more money & teams want to sign champs just hoping it rubs off.

 

[major]

2 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Not funny but I my wife said the game is over when 13 seconds were left. My friends started texting congratulations and my response was "I am a Bills fan. The game is not over till the clock reads all zeros"

I said that same thing at this watching party and people thought I was crazy. They then yelled, “how did you know that?!”. Years of experience 

Edited January 24, 2022 by major

[Richard Noggin]

Just now, KOKBILLS said:

 

I agree...To me it's not the kick at all...For all we know they wanted Bass to kick it just short of the goal line and he just got too much leg into it...We may never know...

 

The 13 seconds are what matters IMHO...

But of course you understand the kick could have shaved several seconds OFF the total of 13, right? (Or pinned the Chiefs deep if they called a fair catch.)

[KOKBILLS]

5 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

I think Daboll likely is out the door with a HC position, so he won't be answering to much.

 

Frankly if Fraiser and Daboll left I don't know how I'd feel, but I don't think I'd be that worried.

 

Yep...

[major]

Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Plus that seems likely to be super entertaining. Would not mind Burrow or Stafford winning it. 
 

Jimmy G or Mahomes 🤮 

Bengals and 49ers would be fun

[Last Guy on the Bench]

3 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

TIme to root for the Bengals and Rams. Can’t stomach another KC super bowl.

I agree, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I think they will romp over the Bengals. Maybe the Rams can give them a fight, but between Stafford and Mahomes I know who my money would be on. I think the Chiefs just won the Super Bowl tonight. By 13 seconds.

[GETTOTHE50]

pulling hard for the rams.

[Nitro]

17 minutes ago, Last Guy on the Bench said:

Fair enough. Sorry if I took you out of context. Totally agree that right now Reid is a better tactical coach than McD. And I'm not sure McD's strength will ever be tactical. But I do believe that he will keep working to find and develop good tactical minds and that everyone on the staff will keep working to improve their approach over time. I agree about Dabol too. He's a funny one. I like him, and think he will also continue to get better as a play caller. (No idea how he'll be as a head coach.) But I did think the coaching tonight on offense was nervous and tight at times, especially early. They needed to unleash Allen early and let things play out. That series of calls before the punt on 4th and 1 was painful (as was the punt).

 

But they're human. I just get tired of everyone who makes a mistake (especially when a lot of the mistakes probably aren't actual mistakes) getting called idiots and trash, etc. But you weren't doing that, so sorry to aim my frustration at your reasonable post.

 I agree. I do not like those harsh terms hurled at them.  

[UKBillFan]

22 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

None but going to 4 straight Super Bowls was a tremendous feat. If we get to a couple in the next few years we are going to win one and probably more then one.

OK, I’ll believe it when I see it because in all likelihood we’ll #### it up. Just as always.

[stryker5673]

Just now, Last Guy on the Bench said:

I agree, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I think they will romp over the Bengals. Maybe the Rams can give them a fight, but between Stafford and Mahomes I know who my money would be on. I think the Chiefs just won the Super Bowl tonight. By 13 seconds.

Rams actually have a pass rush. They look good

[Billsatlastin2018]

2 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

I agree...To me it's not the kick at all...For all we know they wanted Bass to kick it just short of the goal line and he just got too much leg into it...We may never know...

 

The 13 seconds are what matters IMHO...

Of course.

 

But a squib kick brings it to 7/ 8 ticks. 
Tackling Kelce & Hill at the line gets it to 1, with a one play 60 yard, Hail Mary!

 

ALL on the Clapper! He even called TOs, but didn’t obviously say anything.

[KOKBILLS]

1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:

But of course you understand the kick could have shaved several seconds OFF the total of 13, right? (Or pinned the Chiefs deep if they called a fair catch.)

 

Yes...I'm only saying they may have wanted to kick it deep just short of the goal line purposely to do that, and more...They did it a lot this year and executed it very well at times...I'm not saying that's what happened...But I do think it's possible...And I'm not sure we'll ever know...

[JohnBonhamRocks]

2 minutes ago, major said:

Bengals and 49ers would be fun

Yeah, but still Jimmy G just has no place in the Super Bowl

[Last Guy on the Bench]

Just now, stryker5673 said:

Rams actually have a pass rush. They look good

Hope so. I'll be pulling for them, if I can convince my bruised heart to watch the game.

[klos63]

13 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

But their actual lives are NOT in the balance here. It DOES have to do with their financial positions. They and their families are forever taken care of in a material way. The vast majority of Bills fans are not in the same position. Professional disappointments for many of us actually result in financial hardship. 

 

But like I said, I DO actually feel for them on a human level for a short while. We just shouldn't spend too much energy feeling badly for such successful people who WILL be okay. 

This is was sports is. This is how fans are involved. You're reaction is ridiculous. 

 

We know it's not life and death, Einstein.

[Man with No Name]

am i the only person who only cares about the bills? 

 

i watched 18 minutes of the bucs rams today, and it is the most football outside of bills games that ive watched this season. combined. 

 

i might watch the sb if there is a fun party to go to. that's it. 

[KOKBILLS]

2 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Of course.

 

But a squib kick brings it to 7/ 8 ticks. 
Tackling Kelce & Hill at the line gets it to 1, with a one play 60 yard, Hail Mary!

 

ALL on the Clapper! He even called TOs, but didn’t obviously say anything.

 

Right...No question we could have handled that kick better...No question...But even still I look at it like...They have 13 seconds...They need a huge amount of yards...You gotta stop it there...You just have to...

[newcam2012]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Not funny but my wife said the game is over when 13 seconds were left. My friends started texting congratulations and my response was "I am a Bills fan. The game is not over till the clock reads all zeros"

The way the game was going you could never feel comfortable that the Bill's were going to win even with13 seconds left. They had all their time outs meant they had 2-3 plays to get into field goal range. The defense pretty much couldn't stop KC the whole game. I never felt like the Bills were going to stop them. I thought KC would get a long field goal try of like 55 plus yards. Its the Bills so I knew the FG would be good. Not sure, if my expectations were unrealistic. 

[ngbills]

We can only hope this is our Ronnie Harmon on the way to multiple Super Bowls. It is really bad though. How does that happen I still can’t wrap my head around it. 

2 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Right...No question we could have handled that kick better...No question...But even still I look at it like...They have 13 seconds...They need a huge amount of yards...You gotta stop it there...You just have to...

Give up 10 yards not 30. 

[Bruffalo]

3 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

am i the only person who only cares about the bills? 

 

i watched 18 minutes of the bucs rams today, and it is the most football outside of bills games that ive watched this season. combined. 

 

i might watch the sb if there is a fun party to go to. that's it. 

It's probably safe to say that on a forum like this you're probably the odd one out, I'd put money on most of the users of this forum watching a lot of football.

 

In the general Bills fandom, you're probably way more common.

[North Buffalo]

Sigh...

[njbuff]

It’s bad enough I have to go to work right now and I’m really pissed off 😂

[Thrivefourfive]

1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

Was just coming to say this. Wtf was he thinking with 13 seconds left?

 

It looked like he was playing a soft prevent defense on that first play and it gifted KC like half the distance they needed for a field goal. He was acting like all they had to do was prevent a TD or keep KC in bounds but they still had 3 timeouts left.

 

I know they say be careful what you wish for but Im ready for Frazier to go. Hoping he gets a head coaching job this offseason but he sure didn’t do himself any favors tonight. He very well may have coached himself out of a HCing job.

No way. McD takes the heat off Frazier so Frazier can get outta town. 

[Norcalbillsfan]

I mean the entire nfl learned tonight that the superbowl will be against mahomes or Allen.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

I haven't cried like this in a long, long time.

 

I think this was the year. I think we blew it.

[Billsatlastin2018]

Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

I haven't cried like this in a long, long time.

 

I think this was the year. I think we blew it.

THINK? 🙄

 

Geez Louise, that WAS the SB!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

43 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

This is a real bad loss. Heartbreaking to the point where I don’t see how we recover from this. This was our best chance to win the Super Bowl. No Brady, No Rodgers, having Mahomes down late in the 4th and we still didn’t get it done.

 

This is a real gut punch. 

Brady and rodgers will be gone forever very soon for the record lol