UKBillFan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: Tough, tough loss. I hope Frazier gets a job I would love the 3rd round draft picks and frankly we need better coaching on defense. Wouldn't bother me to see Daboll gone to. Sure the Bills got 36 points and over 400 yards on offense but Daboll squandered THREE possessions with his bizarre decision to go heavy and run Singleterry taking the ball out of Allen's hands. And McD deserves criticism for not kicking the ball in the field of play to try to steal a few seconds at the end. I do believe this season was like our 1989 season and the future is very bright for this team. IMO we have the best QB in the NFL. Allen's rise in the playoffs was the last thing we needed to see from him. TWO game winning drives in the last couple of minutes is more then you can ask any QB to do. Allen is the real deal and he will lead this team to multiple Super Bowl wins. As I said earlier, I'm sure the same was said of Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: Tough, tough loss. I hope Frazier gets a job I would love the 3rd round draft picks and frankly we need better coaching on defense. Wouldn't bother me to see Daboll gone to. Sure the Bills got 36 points and over 400 yards on offense but Daboll squandered THREE possessions with his bizarre decision to go heavy and run Singleterry taking the ball out of Allen's hands. And McD deserves criticism for not kicking the ball in the field of play to try to steal a few seconds at the end. I do believe this season was like our 1989 season and the future is very bright for this team. IMO we have the best QB in the NFL. Allen's rise in the playoffs was the last thing we needed to see from him. TWO game winning drives in the last couple of minutes is more then you can ask any QB to do. Allen is the real deal and he will lead this team to multiple Super Bowl wins. thanks for posting something intelligent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Guessing 2 of 3 with Addison, Hughes and Lotulelei will be gone. Maybe all 3. We have some good young DLs and will add depth. Getting Tredavious White back will also help the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, State Rt. 21 N. said: Yeah did they win? No, but that's not a choke. A choke is laying an egg against a lesser opponent. We gave KC everything they could handle on the road. We win the coin flip, we win that game /end. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I knew that holding penalty on Tyreek near the end of the second would come back to haunt us. One of the weakest penalties I ever seen and was a 4 point swing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: So many people blaming the defense. Their defense is JUST as bad and they’re moving on to the AFCC. It’s an offense fueled league and sometimes you win the coin toss. Exactly. Chris Simms said that was the best game he'd ever seen. It was a heavyweight slugfest with a flurry of punches and counterpunches at the end. It sucks that we lost the coin toss because the way Josh was playing, damn good chance we'd have got our TD first to seal it. If that had happened, would it have been appropriate for KC fans to say that all the KC coaches should be fired, and that their defense sucked? Why - these were the two best teams left standing in the playoffs. They went toe to toe. It was a game for the ages. No shame. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Does any other franchise have more last second gut wrenching losses in the biggest games? Plenty do. We just pay attention to ours. Imagine being one of the 6 Falcons fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said: Tell me about Epenesa, Rousseau and the Bills young edge rushers. They were drafted to pressure Mahomes and sadly they failed. The same scenario as last year with Hill running wild through our secondary and Kelce open with the game on the line. We gave up 17pts a game in the regular season and 36 when it counted. Epanesa is wasted space. The others are developing and have potential. Look at Oliver now. He is playing much better and it took him a couple of years to develop. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: They need to get someone in FA who can sack the QB ***** the draft Don't care how they get a pass rusher. Just get one. Addison was not even on the stat sheet for this game and yet I saw him out there falling on his face several times. Addison and Hughes our two most expensive DE's were basically non existent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: The Chiefs are one of the best offenses in the league. The Bills defense pressured Mahomes relentlessly. He escaped rush and made plays. I'm not sure any defense could have stopped the Chiefs tonight. Early in the game they got pressure but were being idiots not containing him - lunging all over the place - they did better later but the whole D was getting gassed later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Listening to coach post game press conference and the first media schill didnt even ask about the kick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Maine-iac said: Don't care how they get a pass rusher. Just get one. Addison was not even on the stat sheet for this game and yet I saw him out there falling on his face several times. Addison and Hughes our two most expensive DE's were basically non existent. Highly probably both will be gone - along with aging Beasely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Today, I took a step closer to the "Hire Vic Fangio" camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: The Chiefs are one of the best offenses in the league. The Bills defense pressured Mahomes relentlessly. He escaped rush and made plays. I'm not sure any defense could have stopped the Chiefs tonight. Maybe not leaving pro bowl tight ends wide open with 8 seconds left? Defensive play calling along with the decision to kick it deep instead of eating clock cost us this game. It's that simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 We won that game. Why would we need an overhaul. We need a DC it seems. That was a bizarre ending from a seasoned coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, BobChalmers said: Early in the game they got pressure but were being idiots not containing him - lunging all over the place - they did better later but the whole D was getting gassed later Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 1. The number 1 Bills D couldn't stop a runny nose all night. The number 16 Chiefs D got in Josh's face all night 2. The 4th and inches decision to punt was a gutless one and also put our tired D back on the field who just spent 8 minutes before that 3 and out 3. With 13 seconds left and up by 3 we should have squib kicked the kick-off which would have chewed up 4-5 seconds. 4. We only had to rush with 2 or 3 on the opening play of the final Chiefs drive and drop 8 or 9 in coverage. Mahomes probably doesn't make the play, leaving only a hail mary as their last available option 5. The failure to take a time out and give our D a rest in OT was mind boggling. In summary, this one is on the D and in particular - the coaches. Edited January 24, 2022 by SydneyBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Meatloaf63 said: The stupidity of NFL rules. Defenses were exhausted to get the ball first is a ridiculous advantage. It was very similar to the Pats victory over KC in 2018 and the Pats OT victory over the Falcons in the SB. In both cases and tonight, the defense had nothing left and was gassed so the coin toss wins the game. You would think the NFL would change the OT rules but they are more conservative about rule changes than the Catholic church. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 In the end, McDermott will always be scared, a change might actually be best, will never happen of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Bills lost because we did not Squibb in obvious situation. Leaving KC with only 2 plays. Then because of that error we compound by rushing DL when we should have had only DB and LB on field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, BananaB said: I knew that holding penalty on Tyreek near the end of the second would come back to haunt us. One of the weakest penalties I ever seen and was a 4 point swing. They were holding all night again also…saw diggs get held tons of times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Adam said: Guessing 2 of 3 with Addison, Hughes and Lotulelei will be gone. Maybe all 3. We have some good young DLs and will add depth. Getting Tredavious White back will also help the defense. the roster will churn just like it does every year....talking defense AND offensive additions/subtractions u know its going to happen...........who is the rub. yep m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Livinginthepast said: It was very similar to the Pats victory over KC in 2018 and the Pats OT victory over the Falcons in the SB. In both cases and tonight, the defense had nothing left and was gassed so the coin toss wins the game. You would think the NFL would change the OT rules but they are more conservative about rule changes than the Catholic church. At least in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: I'm seeing a lot of people in here saying we should draft high in defense this offseason. What has made you confident that this org. know what they're doing when they're picking defense? We have a lot of good players, but we don't have a single star outside of Tre White that they've drafted, and they refuse to acknowledge it. We have spent so much draft capital on our defense, and they don't even show up to the biggest game of the season. I'll keep drafting them until I can find some who can play. AJ Epenesa, you better show something next year or I would cut you, dont care than you were a 2nd. Hughes gone. Star is a nothing burger. Addison good as gone, Butler gone. Yeah Ill take 4 new ones in rounds 1-4. Offense is pretty set, secondary pretty set, DL is just absolute garbage. Oh and dont extend Tre I dont make plays Edmunds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Chiefs: -9 of 14 on 3rd/4th downs -552 yards -Mahomes ran 7 times for 69 yards -Mahomes passed for 75% completion rate, No turnovers, 378 yards -KC ran for 6.7 yards per carry -You only held them in their own side of the 50 yeard line 1 time all game. -when the game was on the line in the 4th quarter and OT, receivers were WIDE open, MULTIPLE times where no defender was within 5-10 yards of them. #1 defense? This may be one of the worst Defensive performances in the History of the NFL (certainly playoffs) by any D-unit ranked in the top 10, let alone #1. Where was KC ferocious defense that was best in the league the last 8 weeks? They got chewed up. Neither defense could stop anything. These are superior offensive teams and this league is designed to keep it that way. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Frog Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: No, but that's not a choke. A choke is laying an egg against a lesser opponent. We gave KC everything they could handle on the road. We win the coin flip, we win that game /end. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Where was Diggs? What did he have, like 3 catches for 7,yards…some payback for last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: Pretty sure I explained it pretty clearly and you can't read, I guess? Who do the Bills have that gets YAC like Hill? You make a fair point about hill making alot of yards after the catch and the Bills not having that weapon. I just don't see the 'Allen is clearly better' thing. Mahomes and Allen both have it all as individual players. I see Mahomes as the kind of QB that makes everyone around him better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Adam said: Guessing 2 of 3 with Addison, Hughes and Lotulelei will be gone. Maybe all 3. We have some good young DLs and will add depth. Getting Tredavious White back will also help the defense. Good. Get rid of all of them. Hughes and Addison looked like fools out there getting juked by Mahomes over and over. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Squib could’ve definitely backfired…you take more time off but they easily could’ve started at the 35-40 yard line and only needed one play to get in fg range SO WHAT? With 7 seconds left from the 35, they would have needed a 30 yard bomb and be down in time! To prevent THAT, you simply hold Kelce & Hill! Leaving them ONE Hail Mary with 1 second! THAT was a historic FUBAR on McD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I just can't believe we won't have another meaningful game to talk about for 8 months and have to deal with this loss all off season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 People crapping on DL but they got there, just didn’t tackle—but neither did anyone else! LBs and safeties both played pitiful imo. I’m not saying cut them but that’s the truth. This game is won if Tre White isn’t lost. I don’t know how to fix what I saw honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, cgg716 said: In the end, McDermott will always be scared, a change might actually be best, will never happen of course Don't make me get detention again for calling out stupid posts....... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Maybe not leaving pro bowl tight ends wide open with 8 seconds left? Defensive play calling along with the decision to kick it deep instead of eating clock cost us this game. It's that simple. The defensive back on that play just let him run free, and the rest of the defenders were so far back it was a simple play. It’s the worst called defense I think I have ever seen. Edited January 24, 2022 by Meatloaf63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Epanesa is wasted space. The others are developing and have potential. Look at Oliver now. He is playing much better and it took him a couple of years to develop. I thought he had a good game and it made me optimistic for the future. It took Clowney two or three years to impact the game... maybe some of these guys will turn out better than we think. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Hughes has had a nice run here but he hasn't made a memorable play in what seems like forever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, BananaB said: I knew that holding penalty on Tyreek near the end of the second would come back to haunt us. One of the weakest penalties I ever seen and was a 4 point swing. Oliver was getting inside all game and held but never called it. Perks of being the media darling. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Chiefs: -9 of 14 on 3rd/4th downs -552 yards -Mahomes ran 7 times for 69 yards -Mahomes passed for 75% completion rate, No turnovers, 378 yards -KC ran for 6.7 yards per carry -You only held them in their own side of the 50 yeard line 1 time all game. -when the game was on the line in the 4th quarter and OT, receivers were WIDE open, MULTIPLE times where no defender was within 5-10 yards of them. #1 defense? This may be one of the worst Defensive performances in the History of the NFL (certainly playoffs) by any D-unit ranked in the top 10, let alone #1. The stats don’t tell the whole story for the Bills D. Sure we had all the nice to have. But realistically, they were an average unit. Any self-evaluating person could tell that based on how they played all year what helped our defense so much all season was our offense getting big leads forcing the other teams offense out of their game plan and having to make plays to keep up. The bad teams simply couldn’t do it so our defense racked up stats. this defense is nothing close to what the Bears had in ‘08 (I think) or the Steelers of the 2000’s. This defense was simply then by-product of a really good offense that threatened the other team to play out of their capabilities. Edited January 24, 2022 by VaMilBill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, billsfan714 said: I'll keep drafting them until I can find some who can play. AJ Epenesa, you better show something next year or I would cut you, dont care than you were a 2nd. Hughes gone. Star is a nothing burger. Addison good as gone, Butler gone. Yeah Ill take 4 new ones in rounds 1-4. Offense is pretty set, secondary pretty set, DL is just absolute garbage. Oh and dont extend Tre I dont make plays Edmunds. Okay, I just think that it's a waste, considering they haven't shown me that they can draft a superstar talent on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillsMagic1 said: Where was Diggs? What did he have, like 3 catches for 7,yards…some payback for last year I don't think the lack of targeting Diggs can be used as a reason behind the loss - we put up 36 points in KC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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