Buffalo03 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) He's going into the final year of his rookie contract. Imagine him on the other side of Diggs. In his situation, I'm not sure what the Falcons would want but I would gladly take him for a 2nd Edited January 6, 2022 by Buffalo03 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 But do we have any idea what caused the player to just walk away from the season, and where things stand now? Your post seems to be ignoring some important questions... 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said: But do we have any idea what caused the player to just walk away from the season, and where things stand now? Your post seems to be ignoring some important questions... He apparently took time off because of his mental health but it looks like he might not want to play for Atlanta anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: He apparently took time off because of his mental health but it looks like he might not want to play for Atlanta anymore Right, so is the mental health circumstance resolved already? If the medical reason given (mental health) for his uncommon and expensive early-season leave of absence is true, then aren't there a number of questions that need to be answered before any team, including his own, pursues his on-field services? Â Seems like you're glossing over some essential human stuff in search of talent. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I am not sure if Calvin will come back to playing football. And if he chooses his mental wellbeing over the game then nobody should begrudge him that. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thurman#1 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: He's going into the final year of his rookie contract. Imagine him on the other side of Diggs. In his situation, I'm not sure what the Falcons would want but I would gladly take him for a 2nd   He's going into the 5th year option year, where he'll get about $11M.  Maybe he's worth it, but that would be hard for the Bills to fit. They could sure use him. I'm a bit worried about his mental health issues. Are they real? Are they temporary? Whatever he's going through, they'd need a real degree of certainty to make a move like this in a year when they've got limited resources.  I doubt it, but it would be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: He apparently took time off because of his mental health but it looks like he might not want to play for Atlanta anymore Well that could be true the state of Georgia only cares about two things The Atlanta Braves then everything else I could see wanting to go to more of a football environment  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 No thanks, don't need to babysit a head case that might just walk away from the game at any point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: He apparently took time off because of his mental health but it looks like he might not want to play for Atlanta anymore Based off...what exactly? Some random dude on Twitter twitting a tweet? Â Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: He apparently took time off because of his mental health but it looks like he might not want to play for Atlanta anymore Based on what?  this sounds like one dudes opinion.  Also don’t you need a good QB to pull off a Stefan Diggs trade? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Mental health is a tough one, I'd pass. I hope he finds/gets the help he needs, but the last thing we need is to be competing for a title, be it division, conference or Super Bowl and he decides he needs a mental health break again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Dude knew his team was trash and quit. Can say mental health all he wants, as thats the new trendy thing to do before quitting. Hard pass. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I’d take him in a minute if terms are fair and he’s sorted through his mental health situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Builder Bill Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: Based off...what exactly? Some random dude on Twitter twitting a tweet? Â Â He was close with julio. Last year he sat back and watched him get his way and atl had to make that trade to Nashville. Something is toxic in that reciever room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagne591 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Why do we need this guy? We can't afford him and we want to keep a good team in tack around Josh so we can be a fixture in the AFC playoffs for years to come. Where would he play? Are you taking Davis off the field? I wouldn't do that he is a stud and every time he is on the field he makes plays. If you bring in Calvin what are you saying to Davis that he isn't good enough? If we keep bringing in other receivers then when Davis's contract is up he will no doubt walk and then what does that leave us. We have to take care of our own. I say don't even bother with Calvin and build within. I hope we don't bring in anyone else next year and give that job to Davis hands down. I am very happy with Diggs, Davis, and McKenzie as our top three...Beasley is still under contract next year we can use him draft another late rounder and go from there. I also think we will see more from Stephenson next year so lets see what we got with him too. We have a great foundation for longevity here lets not chase guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Rather spend the money on someone who isnt prone to leaving the team with mental health issues.  If they aren't real, he quit on his team. If they are real, they just dont go away with rest. Real mental health issues take time, and have a tendency to reoccur.  Good wideout, but bring in a mid tier veteran or mid round rookie to compete with the Gabe Davis who has already been here busting his butt for the team.  Not to mention the 11 million dollar cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Builder Bill said: He was close with julio. Last year he sat back and watched him get his way and atl had to make that trade to Nashville. Something is toxic in that reciever room Again, based off what? Pure 100% speculation. People out here writing fan fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 37 minutes ago, wagne591 said: Why do we need this guy? We can't afford him and we want to keep a good team in tack around Josh so we can be a fixture in the AFC playoffs for years to come. Where would he play? Are you taking Davis off the field? I wouldn't do that he is a stud and every time he is on the field he makes plays. If you bring in Calvin what are you saying to Davis that he isn't good enough? If we keep bringing in other receivers then when Davis's contract is up he will no doubt walk and then what does that leave us. We have to take care of our own. I say don't even bother with Calvin and build within. I hope we don't bring in anyone else next year and give that job to Davis hands down. I am very happy with Diggs, Davis, and McKenzie as our top three...Beasley is still under contract next year we can use him draft another late rounder and go from there. I also think we will see more from Stephenson next year so lets see what we got with him too. We have a great foundation for longevity here lets not chase guys. We can afford him. The cap is going up a lot next season. And do we absolutely need him? No but the idea of having him with Diggs would make the offense even more dynamic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:   He's going into the 5th year option year, where he'll get about $11M.  Maybe he's worth it, but that would be hard for the Bills to fit. They could sure use him. I'm a bit worried about his mental health issues. Are they real? Are they temporary? Whatever he's going through, they'd need a real degree of certainty to make a move like this in a year when they've got limited resources.  I doubt it, but it would be interesting. Beasely and Sanders free up cap space next year, we would be fine. 4 hours ago, TBBills said: No thanks, don't need to babysit a head case that might just walk away from the game at any point. He is literally the exact opposite of a head case?  He wanted to work on his mental health, so he stepped away instead of doing the Antonio Brown, etc etc. I actually think that shows maturity more than anything or am I missing something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 High-end WR seems like a position that you are best served getting through the draft for the most part with few exceptions.   Even the Diggs trade is debatable. I love the guy and he couldnt have done better, but Justin Jefferson on a rookie deal would have been fantastic as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, May Day 10 said: High-end WR seems like a position that you are best served getting through the draft for the most part with few exceptions.   Even the Diggs trade is debatable. I love the guy and he couldnt have done better, but Justin Jefferson on a rookie deal would have been fantastic as well. That's the most hindsight comment I've ever seen. Yes, but we all know that the draft is a literal crapshoot. JJ could have came here and been average then you'd be pounding the table for Diggs.  WR are missed SO much in the draft, look at Denver, Raiders, Philly, etc the last few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) Gabe Davis is going to look amazing on the other side of Diggs.  Wasting money/time on Emmanuel Sanders was one of Beane's worst moves of the season (and he's had a few stinkers).  This team is desperate need of interior OL and doesn't have that much cap - spending money on WR would be unfortunate. Edited January 6, 2022 by BobChalmers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:   He's going into the 5th year option year, where he'll get about $11M.  Maybe he's worth it, but that would be hard for the Bills to fit. They could sure use him. I'm a bit worried about his mental health issues. Are they real? Are they temporary? Whatever he's going through, they'd need a real degree of certainty to make a move like this in a year when they've got limited resources.  I doubt it, but it would be interesting. Did this year count for him or will he still be on year 3 next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, wagne591 said: Why do we need this guy? We can't afford him and we want to keep a good team in tack around Josh so we can be a fixture in the AFC playoffs for years to come. Where would he play? Are you taking Davis off the field? I wouldn't do that he is a stud and every time he is on the field he makes plays. If you bring in Calvin what are you saying to Davis that he isn't good enough? If we keep bringing in other receivers then when Davis's contract is up he will no doubt walk and then what does that leave us. We have to take care of our own. I say don't even bother with Calvin and build within. I hope we don't bring in anyone else next year and give that job to Davis hands down. I am very happy with Diggs, Davis, and McKenzie as our top three...Beasley is still under contract next year we can use him draft another late rounder and go from there. I also think we will see more from Stephenson next year so lets see what we got with him too. We have a great foundation for longevity here lets not chase guys. I mostly agree with you. Obviously no Calvin. Even let Sanders go and promote Davis - he's a Bill vet who is ready. Where I disagree with you is I think the Bills should add through the draft another WR to develop. So Davis takes Sanders role and a draftee is taken for the vacated developmental spot previously had by Davis. Cole will probably be here another year, and McK looks like he should be integrated more into the offense already.  The process is working in the WR room. No need to panic there. I would rather see the resources in terms of a good vet go to another TE or CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Again, based off what? Pure 100% speculation. People out here writing fan fiction. Or the fact that a franchise guy that spent his whole career with a team and with his QB that was also drafted there wanted out. Don't know how much clearer it can get. Things aren't good there. Demanding trade is a little better then quitting though. ill give Julio that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, badassgixxer05 said: Or the fact that a franchise guy that spent his whole career with a team and with his QB that was also drafted there wanted out. Don't know how much clearer it can get. Things aren't good there. Demanding trade is a little better then quitting though. ill give Julio that. So...more speculation trying to be passed as fact. Got it. Thanks. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Id rather spend money on Oline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: So...more speculation trying to be passed as fact. Got it. Thanks. Â No need to say you wear blinders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, badassgixxer05 said: No need to say you wear blinders. Doh! You GOT me! SOOOOO good. Proud of you, Uce.  Of course if you show the back half of that photo, we could all see where your "facts" come from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I think our challenge isnt guys getting separation and catching the ball. We have plenty of those guys.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Buffalo has future stud Gabe Davis. I think they’re good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I wouldn't pay Ridley the money that he's going to command.   I'm all for giving Gabe and Isaiah more playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 With the ups and down that transpired this season I don't think it would be a good fit for anyone with mental health issues. Plus I still think the WR's for the bills are one of the tops in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 hours ago, warrior9 said: Beasely and Sanders free up cap space next year, we would be fine. He is literally the exact opposite of a head case?  He wanted to work on his mental health, so he stepped away instead of doing the Antonio Brown, etc etc. I actually think that shows maturity more than anything or am I missing something? If you walked away once nothing slowing you down form doing it again. Bills also have a bad history of signing guys like that and having that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Pete said: Id rather spend money on Oline Spend on line and draft young skill position players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 For the sake of Ridley, hope he gets what he needs if he is dealing with mental health issues still. Â And if that means a change of scenery, then so be it. Â Â And for those making a case for him to come here...thats a big NO from me. Â And not even really because of the mental health struggles. Â Its because Davis has been very good opposite Diggs, we don't need to invest heavy in another WR. Â We need to focus cap space on other weaknesses on the roster. Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Rule #1 of being a GM in a salary cap league is don't spend capital on productivity that you already have in reserve. Beane is a smart guy and knows that Gabe Davis on his rookie deal will be a 1,000 yard receiver next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I live in the Atl area and trust me when I tell you you want no part of this headcase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 8 hours ago, warrior9 said: That's the most hindsight comment I've ever seen. Yes, but we all know that the draft is a literal crapshoot. JJ could have came here and been average then you'd be pounding the table for Diggs.  WR are missed SO much in the draft, look at Denver, Raiders, Philly, etc the last few years. Laqoun Treadwell is finally getting some playing time in JAX. How many years has he been doing nothing in the league? Former 1st round pick IIRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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