Wizard Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 There was absolutely no reason that the Bills should have lost this game! For this reason, the Pegula’s need to clean out some of the coaching leadership. The odds of screwing up so many times in a row in a game is probably a million to one. That comes down to poor coaching and players not executing. When players screw up and coaches can not adjust, then this means that McDermott’s coaching ceiling has already been reached. He and his staff are average despite the team’s history Great Coach gets 10-14 points in the situation below. Good coach gets 6 to 7 points. Replaceable coach gets 0-3 points. 2x’s in the last 6 minutes the Patriots gift wrapped two very doable red zone touchdown opportunities. And, Allen gets sacked, an idiot TE false start, a missed field goal, and passing the ball when running could have led to more manageable play calling rather than 3rd and long and 4th and 14 situations. No adjustments…means no Confidence! The team lost at home with the best fans, better receivers, and quarterback, unbelievable opportunities to win, and the defense knowing in advance that 95% of the team’s plays would be runs. Mac Jones may have set a record in the last 40 years with 19 pass yards! In other words, our defensive line knew what was coming and the Hoodie decided to be completely one dimensional knowing the Bills could do nothing about it!!! Winning Culture Yes, there was wind and stats were not going to be as big tonight. The Bills had every reason to win and own the division. It was blanking Monday Night Football. The team had this game circled all season. No amount of clapping, rah rah, or “process” makes up for fumbling the game away. Bad coaching, players aren’t executing, and we can’t build our offense or defense with underwhelming line play, time management issues, and not getting the ball from a 30 million dollar QB not getting the ball to Diggs or a line not capable of digging in and getting 10 yards on the ground with some old-fashion tough running. Ceiling has been reached..new voices A weaker AFC, Derrick Henry going down, the Chiefs inconsistencies and Ravens, and the inability to beat playoff caliber teams, execute at key times, and the lack of consistency on the lines means this is McDermott’s ceiling. Time for Bills to make big changes! 4 23 6 1 1 45 7 8 1 1 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I won’t go that far, but he has proven to be a poor game day coach. That challenge was inexcusable and was never going to work. Cost us an important timeout. 1 1 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Please stop. 7 1 4 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I’d be stoked if him and his buddy Beane are sent packing. I would have to change username tho. 1 5 1 4 4 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 This is the truth. We will never win big with McD here. Some people here just don’t want to face that reality. 2 3 2 2 2 4 1 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wizard said: There was absolutely no reason that the Bills should have lost this game! For this reason, the Pegula’s need to clean out some of the coaching leadership. The odds of screwing up so many times in a row in a game is probably a million to one. That comes down to poor coaching and players not executing. When players screw up and coaches can not adjust, then this means that McDermott’s coaching ceiling has already been reached. He and his staff are average despite the team’s history Great Coach gets 10-14 points in the situation below. Good coach gets 6 to 7 points. Replaceable coach gets 0-3 points. 2x’s in the last 6 minutes the Patriots gift wrapped two very doable red zone touchdown opportunities. And, Allen gets sacked, an idiot TE false start, a missed field goal, and passing the ball when running could have led to more manageable play calling rather than 3rd and long and 4th and 14 situations. No adjustments…means no Confidence! The team lost at home with the best fans, better receivers, and quarterback, unbelievable opportunities to win, and the defense knowing in advance that 95% of the team’s plays would be runs. Mac Jones may have set a record in the last 40 years with 19 pass yards! In other words, our defensive line knew what was coming and the Hoodie decided to be completely one dimensional knowing the Bills could do nothing about it!!! Winning Culture Yes, there was wind and stats were not going to be as big tonight. The Bills had every reason to win and own the division. It was blanking Monday Night Football. The team had this game circled all season. No amount of clapping, rah rah, or “process” makes up for fumbling the game away. Bad coaching, players aren’t executing, and we can’t build our offense or defense with underwhelming line play, time management issues, and not getting the ball from a 30 million dollar QB not getting the ball to Diggs or a line not capable of digging in and getting 10 yards on the ground with some old-fashion tough running. Ceiling has been reached..new voices A weaker AFC, Derrick Henry going down, the Chiefs inconsistencies and Ravens, and the inability to beat playoff caliber teams, execute at key times, and the lack of consistency on the lines means this is McDermott’s ceiling. Time for Bills to make big changes! Put in an application 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Nah. You cannot fire the head coach after two successful seasons. For one, I have zero faith that Pegulas will capture lightning in a bottle again. For another, what message does that send to the players? Fire Daboll for sure, hell fire Frazier too. But keep McD and Beane for at least another season or two MINIMUM. 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Nope. We need to keep accepting mediocrity. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Coaching has cost us allot of big games..we are bullies who beat up on weaker teams...coaching is a big issue all around...mcdermott/frasier and daboll 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Mcdermott is fine, Daboll was really the issue today, as he has been all season. 3 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Daboll is so frustrating. He can call fantastic game plans, but many games just look like vanilla play calls. Some creativity was needed tonight and there was none. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Mattymafia said: Mcdermott is fine, Daboll was really the issue today, as he has been all season. He is not "fine" 4 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Then there'd be ten teams looking for a new coach salivating to hire him. You've got to question our o-line coach and RB coach at this point though. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I’m not sure McD is a top 5 or even top 10 coach. But he will NOT be fired, even IF we miss the playoffs this year. I’d bet my life and the lives of my entire family on that. So you are wasting energy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr. Wonderful said: Please stop. Feel free to do something else with your free time if you don't want to engage in a discussion about Buffalo Bills coaching. The idea of this forum isn't to "stop." 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, OZBILLS said: He is not "fine" You're right, he's "top-15 in the league minimum" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 mcdermott is much better than daboll. McD is not BB, but nobody is. This is like steelers fans wanting tomlin to get the ax. great idea, but who out there is better? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, OZBILLS said: He is not "fine" Well he just signed an extension, so he's pretty okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Daboll looks great when we are blowing the doors off of defenses, but when we can't move the ball, we just can't ever adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Wizard said: There was absolutely no reason that the Bills should have lost this game! For this reason, the Pegula’s need to clean out some of the coaching leadership. The odds of screwing up so many times in a row in a game is probably a million to one. That comes down to poor coaching and players not executing. When players screw up and coaches can not adjust, then this means that McDermott’s coaching ceiling has already been reached. He and his staff are average despite the team’s history Great Coach gets 10-14 points in the situation below. Good coach gets 6 to 7 points. Replaceable coach gets 0-3 points. 2x’s in the last 6 minutes the Patriots gift wrapped two very doable red zone touchdown opportunities. And, Allen gets sacked, an idiot TE false start, a missed field goal, and passing the ball when running could have led to more manageable play calling rather than 3rd and long and 4th and 14 situations. No adjustments…means no Confidence! The team lost at home with the best fans, better receivers, and quarterback, unbelievable opportunities to win, and the defense knowing in advance that 95% of the team’s plays would be runs. Mac Jones may have set a record in the last 40 years with 19 pass yards! In other words, our defensive line knew what was coming and the Hoodie decided to be completely one dimensional knowing the Bills could do nothing about it!!! Winning Culture Yes, there was wind and stats were not going to be as big tonight. The Bills had every reason to win and own the division. It was blanking Monday Night Football. The team had this game circled all season. No amount of clapping, rah rah, or “process” makes up for fumbling the game away. Bad coaching, players aren’t executing, and we can’t build our offense or defense with underwhelming line play, time management issues, and not getting the ball from a 30 million dollar QB not getting the ball to Diggs or a line not capable of digging in and getting 10 yards on the ground with some old-fashion tough running. Ceiling has been reached..new voices A weaker AFC, Derrick Henry going down, the Chiefs inconsistencies and Ravens, and the inability to beat playoff caliber teams, execute at key times, and the lack of consistency on the lines means this is McDermott’s ceiling. Time for Bills to make big changes! Boy that’s SOOO much wasted typing and thinking. Lolol 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I don't necessarily think McDermott should be fired after this loss tonight. But the OP suggested something that I find interesting. Has McDermott reached (more or less) his coaching ceiling? I feel he may have. And it's a high ceiling, but it's not high enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Bferra13 said: Well he just signed an extension, so he's pretty okay. And the joke is on the fans, having to put up with years of tonight. But eh, we're used to it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Einstein said: I won’t go that far, but he has proven to be a poor game day coach. That challenge was inexcusable and was never going to work. Cost us an important timeout. in real time, at the stadium, that definitely looked short. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 because....we were so much better the last 20 years before they got here?... daboll.....ive been done with him for a long time... fraizer..the defense?... overall its still a good defense. they have weaknesses but most defenses do and i think it will get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, OZBILLS said: He is not "fine" He is. He is a defensive coach and the the defense let up one big run. Other than that they showed up. Every loss this season other than the Titans game is more on the offense not performing than the defense not performing. Steelers game was lost because the offense, Jaguars game because of the offense, This game was because of the offense. Mcdermott had his issues tonight with burning two time outs on stupid stuff but Daboll really screwed this game up. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, OZBILLS said: And the joke is on the fans, having to put up with years of tonight. But eh, we're used to it Pretty much brother. I still think there's hope though. We're all pissed right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, OZBILLS said: And the joke is on the fans, having to put up with years of tonight. But eh, we're used to it Or years of 2020 but hey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Oh boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I'm ready for a change on offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 This is one of those things you should have slept on before posting. We are all frustrated but it would be incredibly dumb to throw I. The towel. The season is not even over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: This is the truth. We will never win big with McD here. Some people here just don’t want to face that reality. I keep telling all that will listen, he’s Marv 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Well the thing with McDemott is he can’t touch the offense. He’s the reason we love Zack Moss, kicked the tires on Adrian Peterson, insist on guys like Tommy Sweeney being out there, too in Love with Special Teamers only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Fire Daboll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Who are we replacing him with? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Were you a fan of this team during its over a decade of consecutive no playoffs? McDermott isnt going anywhere 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Just now, Bangarang said: Who are we replacing him with? Exactly, this is retarted of a thread as they come. Edited December 7, 2021 by BuffaloBills1998 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, mattynh said: This is one of those things you should have slept on before posting. We are all frustrated but it would be incredibly dumb to throw I. The towel. The season is not even over. Season ended when they did the 1 thing they seemed to feel the most important to do, beat the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, McBean said: I’d be stoked if him and his buddy Beane are sent packing. I would have to change username tho. Why send Beane packing?? He got us a franchise QB for crying out loud. I just can’t lmao 🤣 🤦♂️🤦♂️ 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Were you a fan of this team during its over a decade of consecutive no playoffs? McDermott isnt going anywhere I swear we should bring back Rex, Gailey, Williams, or maybe even Doug Marrone just remind people on here what we were like before McD and Beane got here and made us relevant again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, RiotAct said: in real time, at the stadium, that definitely looked short. It probably was. But they were never going to overturn it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Im over the mcdermott era too. He just hasn't had it from the get-go this season. Its very strange. He cant make adjustments. Its embarrassing. Why are you going to defer and go 3 and out at the start of the half? Hes been deferring all season and this is what has happened more times than not. Secondly, the belichick wasnt playing chess, if he was, then it was the equivalent of making a pon move 1 space down the board. He didnt use queen, bishop, rooks, or horse. He literally just ran the ball. He did this before in 2008 when Matt Cassel threw the ball a whopping 8x. It was the same script. Yet McDermott couldnt prepare for it on a long week. I cant even get into his game management skills. Its very sad, and perplexing. He needs to go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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