EDIT Now: Whatever Pats or Bills topics you wanna discuss Was: Bills (-3.5) vs. Patriots on MNF

[Ghost_002!]

17 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

We don’t need you to educate us on anything Pats. We can get that from credible sources. So honestly the only thing your presence here does is annoy Bills fans. I bet if the Bills win and win big, we won’t see much of you for awhile. And if the Pats win you will get yourself banned pretty quick.

 

 

Don't do this to yourself. I been here for a year. The Bills won the division last year and blew out the pats in their last game and i was here. I never said anything about any of the Bills loses or said nothing about the bills losing the division lead or tying it. Win or lose i will be here when i choose to be. And i do not post caring who likes that i am here or who doesn't. I have had some good exchanges with a few fans here and I am ok with that. All others i really don't pay any attention to. I'm just posting. making the same statements others have. Just interesting to see how you react to it. You really do not have to pay me any mind. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Ghost_002!

[Blainorama5]

Not seeing Brown on there either.  👍

[HappyDays]

Very frustrating that Star is limited because of his decision, especially considering the decision he made last year. If he misses this game it's going to be tough to stop the Pats run game.

[Stank_Nasty]

Max Kellermans BOLD prediction on his show today is That the bills will win Monday night. LOLOL 
 

… mind you we’re 3 pt favorites… you can’t make this trash up. This Pats hype train is to the point that, even as Vegas underdogs, it’s bold to pick against them. Good lord. 
 

I’m gonna have to head outside all weekend and split wood or something. I’ve worked myself into a lather today 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[Bubba Gump]

50 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Don't do this to yourself. I been here for a year. The Bills won the division last year and blew out the pats in their last game and i was here. I never said anything about any of the Bills loses or said nothing about the bills losing the division lead or tying it. Win or lose i will be here when i choose to be. And i do not post caring who likes that i am here or who doesn't. I have had some good exchanges with a few fans here and I am ok with that. All others i really don't pay any attention to. I'm just posting. making the same statements others have. Just interesting to see how you react to it. You really do not have to pay me any mind. 

 

Nice to see you've worked on your grammar and spelling.

Edited December 3, 2021 by Bubba Gump

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, Success said:

I know things like the Jags game happen to good teams - but I hope it provides a lesson for these Bills players in the years to come.  I mean, that's a loss that is just looming so large right now; it's impact seems to grow as the season goes on.

 

It's been discussed ad nauseum, but they bought the hype.  That's something good young teams need to learn, imo.  This is still the NFL, and you're not given anything.

 

Just a different POV a bit, and I understand where you're coming from because I, too, felt that the players were to some extent "reading their clippings" and phoning it in.  I think McDermott knew it too - after the game he said "you've probably heard the same thing (about being humble and hungry) and you're tired of hearing it, too" or something to that effect. 

 

The Bills were sloppy, and it showed with 118 yds on 12 freakin' penalties.  Unnecessary roughness penalties involved Tre White, Dion Dawkins, AJ Klein, and Tremaine Edmunds.  2 of them are playing on their 2nd contracts, one is a vet, one in his 4th year.  These aren't "young players" who need to learn

 

The Jags were held to 9 points, 219 yds and only converted 2 of 13 3rd downs.  (Guess how they got a bunch of their 16 first downs).  The D did OK.

 

But as a contrary point - there is something to be said for pointing a big finger at coaching/game plan

1) If the players were reading their press clippings and the coaches sensed a lack of focus - let's just say some of the best coached teams in the league don't seem to have that problem.  So were the coaches to point a finger at the players in their minds, I would ask "how many fingers point back at you?"

2) We were essentially playing backups at 4 positions on offense - TE, LG, RG, and RT.  Yet we went into the game with a plan for a pass-heavy spread offense that had NOT succeeded in Game 1 or 2 with that personnel grouping at OL (why a change on OL was made and 2 of them became the backups at those positions)

3) Urban Meyer, in his presser that week, called us a "spread offense" and essentially as one of our regulars said "sketched out on a cocktail napkin how to neutralize our offense".  If there's one offense Meyer would know how to shut down - a spread offense would be it.

4) We only ran 14 times - even though it was a tie game (or we had a lead) through most of the game, until late in the 4Q (and see point 3)

5) We had no option for outside runs since our only COP back, Breida, was inactive.

 

Now - all that said, if Josh doesn't throw a pick on 3rd and 3 at the JAX 25, or fumble on 3rd and 2 at the JAX 37, maybe it's a tie game or a lead and a win.

And of course there were plenty of other mistakes.

 

But when you combine an offensive game plan that plays into the opponent's understanding and ability to scheme, then play backups at several key positions yet make no apparent alterations in the game plan to attempt to account for this, and add no attempt at a balanced attack despite a close game - I think you have to say there's "plenty of blame to go around"

 

So I would say it's not just the young players who need to learn something.

 

 

 

 

 

[SCBills]

25 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Max Kellermans BOLD prediction on his show today is That the bills will win Monday night. LOLOL 
 

… mind you we’re 3 pt favorites… you can’t make this trash up. This Pats hype train is to the point that, even as Vegas underdogs, it’s bold to pick against them. Good lord. 
 

I’m gonna have to hear outside all weekend and split wood or something. I’ve worked myself into a lather today 

3 point favorite at home is basically a pick em..   I cant even get mad at people picking the Pats or hyping them up as the team to beat, I’m more annoyed that our Bills haven’t shut the door on that talk all week due to our own inconsistent play.  

[Stank_Nasty]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

3 point favorite at home is basically a pick em..   I cant even get mad at people picking the Pats or hyping them up as the team to beat, I’m more annoyed that our Bills haven’t shut the door on that talk all week due to our own inconsistent play.  

Oh I’m totally fine with somebody picking the pats. That’s fair. But a “bold” prediction to pick the Bills? That’s what we’ve come to? That’s absurd, man. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[BillsFan619]

57 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Max Kellermans BOLD prediction on his show today is That the bills will win Monday night. LOLOL 
 

… mind you we’re 3 pt favorites… you can’t make this trash up. This Pats hype train is to the point that, even as Vegas underdogs, it’s bold to pick against them. Good lord. 
 

I’m gonna have to head outside all weekend and split wood or something. I’ve worked myself into a lather today 

Oh, it gets better, Stank. Mike Reiss' bold prediction on ESPN was that Nick Folk's FG streak will come to an end because of the weather. Ya think? I hope it does come to an end but that's your best bold prediction in such a big game?

 

Here's the link - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32772176/nfl-week-13-game-picks-schedule-guide-fantasy-football-tips-odds-injuries-more#nebuf

[Patrick Duffy]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Very frustrating that Star is limited because of his decision, especially considering the decision he made last year. If he misses this game it's going to be tough to stop the Pats run game.

I'm not sure how his contract is and whatnot, but wonder what the chances of Bills moving on from him after this year?

[TampaBillsJunkie]

On 12/2/2021 at 4:15 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Heh.  Well, there's a local Italian restaurant in St Louis which serves a pasta they call "The Eviction Notice". 

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/foodblog/2016/01/28/9-months-pregnant-try-frank-papas-eviction-notice-special

 

I'd see if they could ship some to Hunter Henry's address, but if I were him I wouldn't eat food sent to me by some rand-o, so....

Good find. That actually looks good.

[Patrick Duffy]

7 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said:

Oh, it gets better, Stank. Mike Reiss' bold prediction on ESPN was that Nick Folk's FG streak will come to an end because of the weather. Ya think? I hope it does come to an end but that's your best bold prediction in such a big game?

 

Here's the link - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32772176/nfl-week-13-game-picks-schedule-guide-fantasy-football-tips-odds-injuries-more#nebuf

Lol, his definition of "bold" is different from mine that's for sure. If it's crazy wind like that there may not even be any FG attempts. Unless close chip shot types. Otherwise both teams might just go for it on 4th down when in opponents side of field.

 

Whatever the case, yeah that's a sad so called bold prediction 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I'm not sure how his contract is and whatnot, but wonder what the chances of Bills moving on from him after this year?

 

He's signed for the next two years with $9M cap hits, of which $6.75 and $6.35 are cash (savings if cut).

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/star-lotulelei-12294/

 

I don't like the opt-out followed by the sick-out, but Harrison Phillips is an UFA next season, and I have to say Harry has NOT developed as we'd hoped after his rookie year/early second season

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

Very frustrating that Star is limited because of his decision, especially considering the decision he made last year. If he misses this game it's going to be tough to stop the Pats run game.

 

 

Yeah I think the vehement defenders of Star's decision making over the past couple seasons have gotten a high decibel wake-up call this past month.    

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Don't do this to yourself. I been here for a year. The Bills won the division last year and blew out the pats in their last game and i was here. I never said anything about any of the Bills loses or said nothing about the bills losing the division lead or tying it. Win or lose i will be here when i choose to be. And i do not post caring who likes that i am here or who doesn't. I have had some good exchanges with a few fans here and I am ok with that. All others i really don't pay any attention to. I'm just posting. making the same statements others have. Just interesting to see how you react to it. You really do not have to pay me any mind. 

I started paying attention to you when you started complaining about Bills fans talking amongst themselves. You are right though, you will be put on ignore. 

[Scott7975]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

LOL there's a freakin' entire THREAD about it, started by Virgil last night.

 

 

So what do we have to try to do to beat NE?  I kind of gather all they have to do is show up.

 

One thing I think the Bills need to do for sure is get their halftime peanut butter sandwiches right.  Cant be giving the guys poorly made sandwiches.

[uninja]

4 hours ago, Success said:

I knew they'd still be competitive w/ BB, and will be as long as he's there.  But the fear factor is gone without Brady.  They're just a good, really well-coached team now.

 

Brady was the magician.  How many times did we have 4th quarter leads only to see him turn it on when he needed to? Threading needles, throwing 50-yard dimes in the last few minutes - always engineering the drive they HAD to have, at the time they had to have it.

 

That wasn't Belichick. It was always the combo that made that team so formidable. I have no doubt that BB will put together some contending years w/ Mac Jones as long as he's there, but they're just another team now.

 

The Pats feel like the Titans now. No one on that team individually terrifies you, but if everything is clicking they’re a team that’s going to give to a tough out. 

[GETTOTHE50]

There not a worse organization in all of sports than the patties. I really hope we crush them and make mac jones cry. hes a crier like brady.

[Jauronimo]

32 minutes ago, uninja said:

The Pats feel like the Titans now. No one on that team individually terrifies you, but if everything is clicking they’re a team that’s going to give to a tough out. 

The Titans have Henry who everyone fears and AJ Brown who is tough to cover.  Without Henry the Titans are reeling.  I can't think of any single player the Pats have who is so critical to their success, but I haven't watched a ton of the Pats this year.  The Titans are toast without Henry and Brown.

[Success]

37 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

There not a worse organization in all of sports than the patties. I really hope we crush them and make mac jones cry. hes a crier like brady.

 

They actually run themselves well. But man, those fans.

 

I spent time checking their boards this week. They're at that point of success where their own team winning is cool, but they take much more enjoyment from the misery of other fanbases.  Probably a coping mechanism for the entire globe hating them, but it ain't pretty.

 

[billieve420]

14 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

The Titans have Henry who everyone fears and AJ Brown who is tough to cover.  Without Henry the Titans are reeling.  I can't think of any single player the Pats have who is so critical to their success, but I haven't watched a ton of the Pats this year.  The Titans are toast without Henry and Brown.

Pats offense is a lot of smoke and mirrors. Defense needs to play sound fundamental football and be ready for whatever McDaniels is going to throw at them.

[GETTOTHE50]

1 minute ago, Success said:

 

They actually run themselves well. But man, those fans.

 

I spent time checking their boards this week. They're at that point of success where their own team winning is cool, but they take much more enjoyment from the misery of other fanbases.  Probably a coping mechanism for the entire globe hating them, but it ain't pretty.

 

Their owner was a routine customer with trafficked women that were forced into prostitution. This was an FBI investigation with video that Kraft paid off.

Their coach video-taped opposing teams practices before super bowls, and they also tried to video tape the bengals sideline signals two years ago. For the superbowl, the NFL deleted the evidence and the Panthers never got closure.

Tom Brady also knowingly broke the rules to deflate footballs.

 

There are rumors that tom brady's play-calling comms never got cut off, and that he was able to get open receiver intel during the play.

 

The patties have tainted the NFL for good. I cant think of a worse organization in all of sports from top to bottom.

[Blank Stare]

Why bother showing up to this one? Just ask the NFLTA crew James Jones and Brian Baldinger. “Beat down by the Cheats”. 

[LeGOATski]

Cowherd thinks a snow game will be fun and the game of the week.

 

Weird.

 

I thought everyone wanted to watch arena football.

 

#openair

[Success]

26 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

Their owner was a routine customer with trafficked women that were forced into prostitution. This was an FBI investigation with video that Kraft paid off.

Their coach video-taped opposing teams practices before super bowls, and they also tried to video tape the bengals sideline signals two years ago. For the superbowl, the NFL deleted the evidence and the Panthers never got closure.

Tom Brady also knowingly broke the rules to deflate footballs.

 

There are rumors that tom brady's play-calling comms never got cut off, and that he was able to get open receiver intel during the play.

 

The patties have tainted the NFL for good. I cant think of a worse organization in all of sports from top to bottom.

 

Yeah, alright.  You make a good argument.

 

[Sharky7337]

Bills are -2.5 now.

[PatsFanNH]

2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

BB wasn’t calling the plays last year, it was considered his son was doing that. He took over after a couple games this year and well the difference has really shown. 

[Billschinatown]

4 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

BB wasn’t calling the plays last year, it was considered his son was doing that. He took over after a couple games this year and well the difference has really shown. 

Dabol's wife was making all the play calls this year; hearing Marv Levy will be taking over this game. Good luck. 

[PatsFanNH]

53 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

Their owner was a routine customer with trafficked women that were forced into prostitution. This was an FBI investigation with video that Kraft paid off.

Their coach video-taped opposing teams practices before super bowls, and they also tried to video tape the bengals sideline signals two years ago. For the superbowl, the NFL deleted the evidence and the Panthers never got closure.

Tom Brady also knowingly broke the rules to deflate footballs.

 

There are rumors that tom brady's play-calling comms never got cut off, and that he was able to get open receiver intel during the play.

 

The patties have tainted the NFL for good. I cant think of a worse organization in all of sports from top to bottom.

Ok first Kraft fought a charge that would have given him just probation for soliciting a prostitute nothing more. 
 

the Lie about them videotaping practices before the Rams SB was proven to be a lie and the paper was forced to print a retraction. (Amazing how no one knows this) The Bengals sideline thing had nothing to do with football operations and the NFL proved that. (Mind you any idiot would know that since the guy was dressed in full pats gear)

 

deflategate, please do some of your own homework stop believing the NFL. 1 football was below the level of natural gas law. The one intercepted by the Colts. No proof connected Brady to it but the commish can suspend you for eating Ham on rye instead of white if he wishes. 

 

So umm how did. Easy win last year? Or when he was on the road. Also anyone looks into that rumor finds out that is also done by the NFL not the team when it shuts off. 
 

the fact is they tainted it for only the to lazy to realize the NFL needed a new villain since the Raiders stink.. sadly most NFL to lazy to see they are buying a storyline. 

[Billschinatown]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Ok first Kraft fought a charge that would have given him just probation for soliciting a prostitute nothing more. 
 

the Lie about them videotaping practices before the Rams SB was proven to be a lie and the paper was forced to print a retraction. (Amazing how no one knows this) The Bengals sideline thing had nothing to do with football operations and the NFL proved that. (Mind you any idiot would know that since the guy was dressed in full pats gear)

 

deflategate, please do some of your own homework stop believing the NFL. 1 football was below the level of natural gas law. The one intercepted by the Colts. No proof connected Brady to it but the commish can suspend you for eating Ham on rye instead of white if he wishes. 

 

So umm how did. Easy win last year? Or when he was on the road. Also anyone looks into that rumor finds out that is also done by the NFL not the team when it shuts off. 
 

the fact is they tainted it for only the to lazy to realize the NFL needed a new villain since the Raiders stink.. sadly most NFL to lazy to see they are buying a storyline. 

 

RIP Myra Hiatt Kraft (née Myra Nathalie Hiatt; December 27, 1942 – July 20, 2011[2]) was an American philanthropist and the wife of New England Patriots and New England Revolution owner Robert Kraft. 

 

I'm sure the consorting with prostitutes is a new thing. He def. had WAY too much respect for his wife. 

 

From top to bottom it's a bunch of good guys.

 

For instance, notorious good guy Bill:

 

Sharon Shenocca testified in February 2007 that Belichick sent her at least $150,00 to pay for lavish vacations as she labeled it as being only through his “generosity.”

Shenocca previously met the future Hall of Fame head coach when they worked with the New York Giants. She served as a receptionist while he was an assistant coach. The relationship between the two came to the public light after Shenocca and her husband, Vincent Shenocca, split in 2006.

 

And bonus legacy good guy:

 

“Two months into our relationship, Tom told me that his ex-girlfriend was pregnant. The very next day, the news was everywhere and I felt my world had been turned upside down,” the supermodel wrote at the time. Despite the challenging circumstance, Bündchen still has so much love for her “bonus child,” Jack.

 

And bonus bonus legacy good guy:

 

 

 

Classy organization. Classy people. Legacy of greatness. 

 

[PatsFanNH]

3 minutes ago, Billschinatown said:

 

RIP Myra Hiatt Kraft (née Myra Nathalie Hiatt; December 27, 1942 – July 20, 2011[2]) was an American philanthropist and the wife of New England Patriots and New England Revolution owner Robert Kraft. 

 

I'm sure the consorting with prostitutes is a new thing. He def. had WAY too much respect for his wife. 

 

From top to bottom it's a bunch of good guys.

 

For instance, notorious good guy Bill:

 

Sharon Shenocca testified in February 2007 that Belichick sent her at least $150,00 to pay for lavish vacations as she labeled it as being only through his “generosity.”

Shenocca previously met the future Hall of Fame head coach when they worked with the New York Giants. She served as a receptionist while he was an assistant coach. The relationship between the two came to the public light after Shenocca and her husband, Vincent Shenocca, split in 2006.

 

And bonus legacy good guy:

 

“Two months into our relationship, Tom told me that his ex-girlfriend was pregnant. The very next day, the news was everywhere and I felt my world had been turned upside down,” the supermodel wrote at the time. Despite the challenging circumstance, Bündchen still has so much love for her “bonus child,” Jack.

 

And bonus bonus legacy good guy:

 

 

 

Classy organization. Classy people. Legacy of greatness. 

 

Classy.. no one knows what he did or didn’t do nor does anyone really care. That was between him and his wife.

 

OMG so BB had an affair with a married woman.. so scandalous such a bad guy thing. (Eye roll)

 

Roflmao, see an uninformed “fan” He found out Bridgett Moynihan was pregnant AFTER. They broke up, she says so herself. So what? He should marry her because she was pregnant? What are you living in 1950! They actually have co parented wel and Moynihan and Giselle actual like eachother. (Go figure)

 

NONE of what you point out makes someone a bad guy. Oh no he used a prostitute , my friend we all pay for it one way or another. That way is just more up front. Lol

 

oh look he dated a married woman.. so? He didn’t force her and they were adults who cares! 
 

the last one was as Deadpool would put it.. “Lazy writing” anyone even half butt searched that knew you were grasping at nothing.  

[Jauronimo]

21 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Ok first Kraft fought a charge that would have given him just probation for soliciting a prostitute nothing more. 
 

the Lie about them videotaping practices before the Rams SB was proven to be a lie and the paper was forced to print a retraction. (Amazing how no one knows this) The Bengals sideline thing had nothing to do with football operations and the NFL proved that. (Mind you any idiot would know that since the guy was dressed in full pats gear)

 

deflategate, please do some of your own homework stop believing the NFL. 1 football was below the level of natural gas law. The one intercepted by the Colts. No proof connected Brady to it but the commish can suspend you for eating Ham on rye instead of white if he wishes. 

 

So umm how did. Easy win last year? Or when he was on the road. Also anyone looks into that rumor finds out that is also done by the NFL not the team when it shuts off. 
 

the fact is they tainted it for only the to lazy to realize the NFL needed a new villain since the Raiders stink.. sadly most NFL to lazy to see they are buying a storyline. 

Its all just been a witch hunt, eh?  Goodell went from Kraft's lackey to having it out for the Patriots.  Nothing to see here...

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

26 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Ok first Kraft fought a charge that would have given him just probation for soliciting a prostitute nothing more. 
 

the Lie about them videotaping practices before the Rams SB was proven to be a lie and the paper was forced to print a retraction. (Amazing how no one knows this) The Bengals sideline thing had nothing to do with football operations and the NFL proved that. (Mind you any idiot would know that since the guy was dressed in full pats gear)

 

deflategate, please do some of your own homework stop believing the NFL. 1 football was below the level of natural gas law. The one intercepted by the Colts. No proof connected Brady to it but the commish can suspend you for eating Ham on rye instead of white if he wishes. 

 

So umm how did. Easy win last year? Or when he was on the road. Also anyone looks into that rumor finds out that is also done by the NFL not the team when it shuts off. 
 

the fact is they tainted it for only the to lazy to realize the NFL needed a new villain since the Raiders stink.. sadly most NFL to lazy to see they are buying a storyline. 

Bill Belichick, Robby Kraft, and Tom Brady could strangle 5 puppies and 10 babies on camera in front of a live studio audience, and pats* fans would still defend them and claim it was all just an illusion and an attempt by jealous fans to taint their legacy. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by HereComesTheReignAgain

[Mark Vader]

17 minutes ago, Billschinatown said:

 

RIP Myra Hiatt Kraft (née Myra Nathalie Hiatt; December 27, 1942 – July 20, 2011[2]) was an American philanthropist and the wife of New England Patriots and New England Revolution owner Robert Kraft. 

 

I'm sure the consorting with prostitutes is a new thing. He def. had WAY too much respect for his wife. 

 

From top to bottom it's a bunch of good guys.

 

For instance, notorious good guy Bill:

 

Sharon Shenocca testified in February 2007 that Belichick sent her at least $150,00 to pay for lavish vacations as she labeled it as being only through his “generosity.”

Shenocca previously met the future Hall of Fame head coach when they worked with the New York Giants. She served as a receptionist while he was an assistant coach. The relationship between the two came to the public light after Shenocca and her husband, Vincent Shenocca, split in 2006.

 

And bonus legacy good guy:

 

“Two months into our relationship, Tom told me that his ex-girlfriend was pregnant. The very next day, the news was everywhere and I felt my world had been turned upside down,” the supermodel wrote at the time. Despite the challenging circumstance, Bündchen still has so much love for her “bonus child,” Jack.

 

And bonus bonus legacy good guy:

 

 

 

Classy organization. Classy people. Legacy of greatness. 

 

This video just gets me furious. I really hope someone takes out Gronkowski the following week.

[Jauronimo]

16 minutes ago, Billschinatown said:

 

RIP Myra Hiatt Kraft (née Myra Nathalie Hiatt; December 27, 1942 – July 20, 2011[2]) was an American philanthropist and the wife of New England Patriots and New England Revolution owner Robert Kraft. 

 

I'm sure the consorting with prostitutes is a new thing. He def. had WAY too much respect for his wife. 

 

From top to bottom it's a bunch of good guys.

 

For instance, notorious good guy Bill:

 

Sharon Shenocca testified in February 2007 that Belichick sent her at least $150,00 to pay for lavish vacations as she labeled it as being only through his “generosity.”

Shenocca previously met the future Hall of Fame head coach when they worked with the New York Giants. She served as a receptionist while he was an assistant coach. The relationship between the two came to the public light after Shenocca and her husband, Vincent Shenocca, split in 2006.

 

And bonus legacy good guy:

 

“Two months into our relationship, Tom told me that his ex-girlfriend was pregnant. The very next day, the news was everywhere and I felt my world had been turned upside down,” the supermodel wrote at the time. Despite the challenging circumstance, Bündchen still has so much love for her “bonus child,” Jack.

 

And bonus bonus legacy good guy:

 

 

 

Classy organization. Classy people. Legacy of greatness. 

 

I'm just offended he's making visits to the same rub'n tug joint as guys making minimum wage.  If your net worth is measured in millions you shouldn't be laying on the same surface 5 minutes after a guy working at Delta Sonic just got a happy ending.  Rich people hire escorts and they make house calls to the penthouse suite of fancy hotels.  Kraft very obviously has a poor person kink where he revels in wallowing in lower class stink.  Its disgusting.

[PatsFanNH]

Just now, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

Bill Belichick and Tom Brady could strangle 5 puppies and 10 babies on camera in front of a live studio audience, and pats* fans would still defend them and claim it was all just an illusion. 

Maybe, but NFL fans could be shown video proof of the NFL lying and if the NFL or ESPN didn’t validate it they claim it’s a lie.  (Proof? Goodell “Brady lied and said he and the equipment manager never discussed Deflategate” transcripts from actual interview Brady “ I don’t know, we were probably discussing things for the upcoming game but I am sure this came up as well”. But hey.. the commish doesn’t lie.. 

[Mr Info]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Mods - Can you remove this fella or block temporarily? I know this is an open forum but this is detracting from the enjoyment of a Bills fans gathering place…it is becoming distracting. I have not blocked anyone yet but it seems like I will use that feature. There have been fans of other teams on here that contribute good, but limited, posts. Others, like @Jimmy Spagnola are enjoyable. However, this is a PIA.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

Maybe, but NFL fans could be shown video proof of the NFL lying and if the NFL or ESPN didn’t validate it they claim it’s a lie.  (Proof? Goodell “Brady lied and said he and the equipment manager never discussed Deflategate” transcripts from actual interview Brady “ I don’t know, we were probably discussing things for the upcoming game but I am sure this came up as well”. But hey.. the commish doesn’t lie.. 

Yep, and Brady called the equipment guy the “deflator” because he lost a lot of weight. 

[Heathcliff]

2 minutes ago, Mr Info said:

Mods - Can you remove this fella or block temporarily? I know this is an open forum but this is detracting from the enjoyment of a Bills fans gathering place…it is becoming distracting. I have not blocked anyone yet but it seems like I will use that feature. There have been fans of other teams on here that contribute good, but limited, posts. Others, like @Jimmy Spagnola are enjoyable. However, this is a PIA.

I second the request!

[PatsFanNH]

8 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Its all just been a witch hunt, eh?  Goodell went from Kraft's lackey to having it out for the Patriots.  Nothing to see here...

Jauronimo, just look at the evidence. Kraft probably agreed to it for spygate but wasn’t happy about Deflategate crap.  The NFL has always had a “bad guy”. It was the Raiders for decades.. they need it it helps sell tickets but more importantly people watch the bad guy.. 

 

Now I better be careful because some here are easily agitated by someone defending their team in a thread about their team lol.