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[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

😢 😢 

 

 

 

sometimes I think they push karma just a bit too much 

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Have to disagree with you. Not long ago, the media was giving the Bills mad hype. They were putting us in the top of their rankings and talking super bowl appearance. What changed? The Bills starting losing, playing average to poorly, and weaknesses started to be obvious. 

 

Following your logic, who have the Bills beat? You think that's impressive? Six game winning streaks are pretty had to come bybin the NFL. The Pats absolutely should be appalled for their success. 

 

There is little indication that the Bills will blow out the Pats. Sure it could happen and no one would be happier than me. Take off your homer hat and be a little more fair with your post. 

Honestly, I believe many would be happier than you. You only make yourself relevant when Buffalo has flaws. It's why nothing you say is taken seriously.

 

Your rebuttal of what those in the media said about this years Bills team is irrelevant and am obvious way to move some goal posts. I was clearly talking about last season and what was said about the Bills by many of those same media people. 

 

May I suggest you take your own advice, take the Patriots homer glasses off because you may scratch them while performing ***** to the Patriots past rings.

[cgang]

Excited about the game!  Put up or shut up time for the Bills.  Talking is (almost) done.  6 more days of this.  Doesn’t matter what the pundits say or what we say or what the bills say.  Or what the hoodie says.  In the past this would be a classic choke game… really interested to see if us kicking their a@@ last year was a fluke or not with the folks they had out.  Excited to see what happens.  

[streetkings01]

39 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

If you have a clip or get a hold of one. Please post. I know what i saw clearly. 

https://youtu.be/LzVeO74M6jI

I listened to it again and heard exactly what I heard the first time. They even admitted they were rough on the Bills this segment.

 

Belichicks record against McDermott without mentioning Brady, but making sure to point out the 2 losses we’re with Newton. 

[Coffeesforclosers]

31 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

😢 😢 

 

 

 

sometimes I think they push karma just a bit too much 

 

 

 

Why? It's a fact isn't it?  And it's not like anyone is going to let them forget that Mac Jones may as buy his Gold Jacket now.

[streetkings01]

 

You guys can listen for yourself and tell me if I’m overreacting to this video? They didn’t show one positive highlight of us at all in this segment. If you never watched football and saw this segment for the 1st time you’d think we were a 1-3 win team.

[Greg S]

1 minute ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Why? It's a fact isn't it?  And it's not like anyone is going to let them forget that Mac Jones may as buy his Gold Jacket now.

 

Not really. 8-4 vs 7-4. Tied in the loss column. Only reason they are in "1st place" is because they played one more game and won it. Bills will get their opportunity to win that game when NE is on their bye. Pats also lost to the Fins while the Bills are currently 3-0 in the division.

[jletha]

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, jletha said:

 

These things typically aren't isolated.

[RichRiderBills]

Duggar alone would be a huge loss. Have not seen too many pending type notices like that. Fishy. I'm sure the cheats right now scheming how they can buck the system.

16 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

 

You guys can listen for yourself and tell me if I’m overreacting to this video? They didn’t show one positive highlight of us at all in this segment. If you never watched football and saw this segment for the 1st time you’d think we were a 1-3 win team.

 

Yep I agree. It's nauseating. This week has proven excruciating. No real X and Os coverage...just pats gushing. 

 

 

[Hebert19]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

These things typically aren't isolated.

He's been playing well so that would be a tough loss for them.  I don't want any excuses when we hammer them so hopefully this is it. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Ghost_002!]

1 hour ago, streetkings01 said:

https://youtu.be/LzVeO74M6jI

I listened to it again and heard exactly what I heard the first time. They even admitted they were rough on the Bills this segment.

 

Belichicks record against McDermott without mentioning Brady, but making sure to point out the 2 losses we’re with Newton. 

 

 

Ok first the clip is titled Peter Schrager BELIEVES Josh Allen in Buffalo BIlls vs New England Patriots. 

 

Then the host brings in a lady talking about the bills and how the coach believes in Josh Allen then the show their selves begin to show buffalo bills highlights.

 

Kyle proceeds to say pats and puts up a graphic showing their last 8 or so meetings...and as i said every other host actually speaks about the current situation for each team..with Peter and  Michael saying the Bills., in fact..Michael says.."i am still going with the bills, my bills"  I do not see or hear what you are hearing...

 

like i think you are being very hyper sensitive because that segment was pretty fair with two out of the four host cheering for the bills. 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Ghost_002!

[transplantbillsfan]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

If (and yes, this is a big if) we beat the Pats convincingly and national pundits focus on this absence (along with likely others based on the way Covid works) I'm gonna be irritated considering I don't think I heard anything from anyone outside of Buffalo fans when we lost to the Colts without Star, Spencer Brown, Mongo, and Edmunds.

 

Plus we're now missing one of the 3 best players on our team for the rest of the season.

 

Don't feel bad for the Pats at all.  This isn't an asterisk game.

 

Buffalo needs to put up or shut up, though.

[streetkings01]

4 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Ok first the clip is titled Peter Schrager BELIEVES Josh Allen in Buffalo BIlls vs New England Patriots. 

 

Then the host brings in a lady talking about the bills and how the coach believes in Josh Allen then the show their selves begin to show buffalo bills highlights.

 

Kyle proceeds to say pats and puts up a graphic showing their last 8 or so meetings...and as i said every other host actually speaks about the current situation for each team..with Peter and  Michael saying the Bills., in fact..Michael says.."i am still going with the bills, my bills"  I do not see or hear what you are hearing...

 

like i think you are being very hyper sensitive because that segment was pretty fair with two out of the four host cheering for the bills. 

 

I’m not talking about Mike Rob…..I’m referring to Peter, Kyle and Kay. Not being sensitive at all….I think you’re trying too hard to play devil’s advocate.

[Stank_Nasty]

22 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Ok first the clip is titled Peter Schrager BELIEVES Josh Allen in Buffalo BIlls vs New England Patriots. 

 

Then the host brings in a lady talking about the bills and how the coach believes in Josh Allen then the show their selves begin to show buffalo bills highlights.

 

Kyle proceeds to say pats and puts up a graphic showing their last 8 or so meetings...and as i said every other host actually speaks about the current situation for each team..with Peter and  Michael saying the Bills., in fact..Michael says.."i am still going with the bills, my bills"  I do not see or hear what you are hearing...

 

like i think you are being very hyper sensitive because that segment was pretty fair with two out of the four host cheering for the bills. 

 

um if you're familiar with youtube clips at all, they are almost 100% misleading in order to get views. literally youtube any team or player, look at the titles of the videos, and then actually watch the videos. Half the time they will say a certain guy is hyping a player and then you watch it and they are slamming them the whole time. How you have never noticed this is beyond me....

 

if you cant see how thats a one sided video then there's no logical talks to be had with you.

16 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

I’m not talking about Mike Rob…..I’m referring to Peter, Kyle and Kay. Not being sensitive at all….I think you’re trying too hard to play devil’s advocate.

He is.

21 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

If (and yes, this is a big if) we beat the Pats convincingly and national pundits focus on this absence (along with likely others based on the way Covid works) I'm gonna be irritated considering I don't think I heard anything from anyone outside of Buffalo fans when we lost to the Colts without Star, Spencer Brown, Mongo, and Edmunds.

 

Plus we're now missing one of the 3 best players on our team for the rest of the season.

 

Don't feel bad for the Pats at all.  This isn't an asterisk game.

 

Buffalo needs to put up or shut up, though.

You already know that answer to this. 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[Success]

What's all of this talk of excuses if Duggar can't play?  We lost TRE WHITE.

 

Next man up & all.  The Pats have benefitted in just about every game from their opponent losing multiple great players...

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Son of a K-Gun said:

Boy Scout campout on Monday night?

 

I was wondering that myself.  Don't they have school and stuff?

[Steel City Mafia]

 

[Big Blitz]

Just now, Steel City Mafia said:

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

57 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Boo ***** Hoo for the Pats when we just lost Tre' White for the rest of the season

 

Also no one gave a rat's ass that we were without Star and Edmunds when the Colts were running us over.

[Success]

All that said about no excuses, Duggar is a big loss for them.

 

Their D plays really solid, complimentary football - but there aren't too many standouts.  Duggar, Jackson & Judon are the 3 who could be called stars, imo.  

 

I hope we can exploit that, if he ends up missing the game.

 

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

Why do I keep seeing media and fans excluding Allen’s running when talking about the Bills run game. They are 11th in rushing yards per game. A lot of Allen’s runs are designed runs. Kay Adams showed the Bills rushing ranks after taking out Allen’s runs. They don’t qualify Mac Jones’ passing stats by taking away RAC or some other mental gymnastics bull####. Bills are 11th in rushing yards per game. Guess who is 12th? (Hint- Buffalo plays them on Monday) 

[Blainorama5]

Every team is having to deal with missing players this season due to covid.  Every team has had to suck it up and run with the next man up.  We've done it a few weeks and with Dugger out, the Pats will have to do the same now as well at that spot.

 

Hope it's just mild symptoms for his sake, but does it help our cause on Monday?  Of course.  No one in their right mind should cry for the Patsies on this one.

 

[Stank_Nasty]

4 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

Why do I keep seeing media and fans excluding Allen’s running when talking about the Bills run game. They are 11th in rushing yards per game. A lot of Allen’s runs are designed runs. Kay Adams showed the Bills rushing ranks after taking out Allen’s runs. They don’t qualify Mac Jones’ passing stats by taking away RAC or some other mental gymnastics bull####. Bills are 11th in rushing yards per game. Guess who is 12th? (Hint- Buffalo plays them on Monday) 

Its absolute insanity this week. I dont know if i've ever seen every major outlet bend over as far backwards to skew the odds for a game like they have this one. 

[jkeerie]

4 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Its absolute insanity this week. I dont know if i've ever seen every major outlet bend over as far backwards to skew the odds for a game like they have this one. 

It'll just fuel the Bills.  They are lousy at being front runners.  Being the hunter versus the hunted, suits them better.

[RichRiderBills]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Ok first the clip is titled Peter Schrager BELIEVES Josh Allen in Buffalo BIlls vs New England Patriots. 

 

Then the host brings in a lady talking about the bills and how the coach believes in Josh Allen then the show their selves begin to show buffalo bills highlights.

 

Kyle proceeds to say pats and puts up a graphic showing their last 8 or so meetings...and as i said every other host actually speaks about the current situation for each team..with Peter and  Michael saying the Bills., in fact..Michael says.."i am still going with the bills, my bills"  I do not see or hear what you are hearing...

 

like i think you are being very hyper sensitive because that segment was pretty fair with two out of the four host cheering for the bills. 

 

 

The headline is click bait. Schraeger does not say that  Welcome to YouTube. 

 

Robinson does say that but mostly they crap on Buff the whole time. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

If (and yes, this is a big if) we beat the Pats convincingly and national pundits focus on this absence (along with likely others based on the way Covid works) I'm gonna be irritated considering I don't think I heard anything from anyone outside of Buffalo fans when we lost to the Colts without Star, Spencer Brown, Mongo, and Edmunds.

 

Plus we're now missing one of the 3 best players on our team for the rest of the season.

 

Don't feel bad for the Pats at all.  This isn't an asterisk game.

 

Buffalo needs to put up or shut up, though.

Pats are coming off a 3 game stretch where they caught:

 

The Browns without Chubb or Hunt.

Falcons without Patterson

Titans without Henry, Jones and Brown.

 

Sometimes luck runs out. Not shedding any tears here.

[Success]

7 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

It'll just fuel the Bills.  They are lousy at being front runners.  Being the hunter versus the hunted, suits them better.

 

Personally, as a fan, I've enjoyed the last few weeks of coverage nationally.

 

The Bills are an afterthought, and completely back under the radar.  I think Brees said on Monday that the 3 teams to beat in the AFC were the Ravens, Patriots and Bengals.  Yes, those Bengals.

 

Meanwhile, the Pats hype is beyond Dallas 1990's level.  They're back!  Mac is just like Brady!  Here we go again - another 20 year dynasty!

 

If the Bills prevail, it will make winning that much more fun. But, of course, knowing the media they'll hot take right back into hyping the Bills and saying the Pats were all Brady if that happens.

 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Honestly, I believe many would be happier than you. You only make yourself relevant when Buffalo has flaws. It's why nothing you say is taken seriously.

 

Your rebuttal of what those in the media said about this years Bills team is irrelevant and am obvious way to move some goal posts. I was clearly talking about last season and what was said about the Bills by many of those same media people. 

 

May I suggest you take your own advice, take the Patriots homer glasses off because you may scratch them while performing ***** to the Patriots past rings.

Your personal attacks are unwelcome. Frankly, your post is borderline incomprehensible. I do criticize the Bills organization, coaches, and players. I realize it's not popular here. Thus, the personal attacks like yours aren't uncommon. I stand by my criticisms and they do have merit and validity. Obviously, it's my opinion and I'm not always right. However, this is a place to voice opinions and hopefully get solid feedback without personal attacks. 

 

How can you talk about the media but disregard the media's feedback this year? Really? Lol

 

Lastly, I do give credit and props to the Bills when it's deserved. For example, I've criticized and praised Allen many times. 

 

I'll be the bigger man and Bills fan and take the high road. Hopefully, I'm here to stay and give my feedback. Many on here have appropriately and professionally given me and others great feedback here. I look forward to reading and learning from such knowledgeable bills fans. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Your personal attacks are unwelcome. Frankly, your post is borderline incomprehensible. I do criticize the Bills organization, coaches, and players. I realize it's not popular here. Thus, the personal attacks like yours aren't uncommon. I stand by my criticisms and they do have merit and validity. Obviously, it's my opinion and I'm not always right. However, this is a place to voice opinions and hopefully get solid feedback without personal attacks. 

 

How can you talk about the media but disregard the media's feedback this year? Really? Lol

 

Lastly, I do give credit and props to the Bills when it's deserved. For example, I've criticized and praised Allen many times. 

 

I'll be the bigger man and Bills fan and take the high road. Hopefully, I'm here to stay and give my feedback. Many on here have appropriately and professionally given me and others great feedback here. I look forward to reading and learning from such knowledgeable bills fans. 

I would like to apologize. If my posts are incomprehensible I will take that into consideration and use simpler thoughts and terms in the future so everyone can comprehend. Thank you for pointing that out. Bless your heart! 

[finn]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

With White out, the loss of Dugger would begin--not more than that--even the playing field re injuries. 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

35 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

Why do I keep seeing media and fans excluding Allen’s running when talking about the Bills run game. They are 11th in rushing yards per game. A lot of Allen’s runs are designed runs. Kay Adams showed the Bills rushing ranks after taking out Allen’s runs. They don’t qualify Mac Jones’ passing stats by taking away RAC or some other mental gymnastics bull####. Bills are 11th in rushing yards per game. Guess who is 12th? (Hint- Buffalo plays them on Monday) 

 

The drum that the Talking Heads have been beating, pretty much since the Tennessee game but intensified since the loss to the Jaguars and then the Colts, is that "too much of Buffalo's offense runs through Josh Allen". 

 

Now, there's some truth to this.  It's true for other teams as well, but no one seems to bring up the same qualifier: no one is saying "the Ravens aren't a balanced team because too much of their offense runs through Lamar Jackson" even though if you take out his 707 yds the Ravens rushing offense would drop to 29th on the NFL, just as the Bills would drop to 31st.  Instead we have announcers mercilessly washing them about how no one can tackle Lamar Jackson (because the Browns couldn't), when I could go on Youtube and find film of some teams sacking Jackson Over. and Over. and Over. in the same game. 

The fact is, so much of the Ravens offense running through LJ is a flaw, as much as so much of the Bills offense running through Allen.  It creates a vulnerability - any time there's a gap in a team's game, it's a lever opposing DCs can exploit.

 

The bottom line is, we lost to the Jaguars in an embarrassing fashion, and we're going to be wearing the Dunce cap in the media corner  and living it down (if we can) for a while.  And I'm OK with that.  "Buffalo vs Everybody", Baby.

[Son of a K-Gun]

34 minutes ago, Success said:

All that said about no excuses, Duggar is a big loss for them.

 

Their D plays really solid, complimentary football - but there aren't too many standouts.  Duggar, Jackson & Judon are the 3 who could be called stars, imo.  

 

I hope we can exploit that, if he ends up missing the game.

 

Doesn’t Duggar have 18 brothers and sisters?  Figure one of them could step in.

[TC in St. Louis]

The Pats have been in the Bills heads for years.  Most of our players didn't suffer through to the extent the fans have....obviously.  

 

They're a really good team.  We have lost at least one game we never should have lost.  What happened that day is the Jags showed up pissed and possessed and throttled our men up front.  Our team was not mentally prepared for that.  

 

We could've beaten the Titans.  We should have won the opener.  We got whupped by the Colts.  

 

Ok, those are rationalizations.  But I think the Patriot hex has come to an end, and this Monday our team will be ready, and we'll take the game.  

[eball]

I've got one thing to say to all of our "friends" visiting from Cheatersville this week.  Enjoy your stay, and don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya on Monday night around 11:30.

[eball]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

I’m wondering if hoping it’s possible that he can play if he is vaccinated and tests negative by Monday? 

 

Fixed it for ya, Scott.

[Success]

5 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said:

The Pats have been in the Bills heads for years.  Most of our players didn't suffer through to the extent the fans have....obviously.  

 

They're a really good team.  We have lost at least one game we never should have lost.  What happened that day is the Jags showed up pissed and possessed and throttled our men up front.  Our team was not mentally prepared for that.  

 

We could've beaten the Titans.  We should have won the opener.  We got whupped by the Colts.  

 

Ok, those are rationalizations.  But I think the Patriot hex has come to an end, and this Monday our team will be ready, and we'll take the game.  

 

I feel like last year went a long way toward breaking the "hex" or whatever it is - but 20 years is a pretty long time.  It feels more like a work in progress.  But I agree - the players didn't experience that, just the fans. I don't think the players really think about it at all.

 

On a side note, when I peruse the Pats boards, they're always talking about the "in their heads" and "rent free" stuff. And it's absolutely true.  Clearly, as I find myself perusing their boards when there is really no reason to.

 

But then I think, wait a sec - isn't this the same fanbase that STILL chants "Yankees suck!" at sporting events where NY isn't involved?

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[HappyDays]

48 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

Why do I keep seeing media and fans excluding Allen’s running when talking about the Bills run game. They are 11th in rushing yards per game.

 

I don't need to look at stats to know that the Bills actual rushing game this year has been poor. If you want to include Allen designed runs that's fine but I would bet most of his rushing production is from scrambles. That's not what people mean when they talk about a team's run game. When the RBs are given the ball we do not consistently pick up positive yardage. Singletary and Moss have combined for 6 rushing TDs this year which is abysmal.

 

The one thing I will say is that I think the Bills have found some success running the ball over the last few weeks by getting Breida involved and making our run/pass ratio with Allen under center more balanced. But on the whole our run game has been awful most of the year.

Edited December 1, 2021 by HappyDays