billsfan_34 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: Even Brady looks bad when he is pressured all day. I love how people want to bail when faced with adversity. So should we trade Josh for draft picks and start Mitch. Let's fire McDermott and Beane and get people in management that know what they are doing. Give me a break. Every season has a Game teams lose that they should have won. I dont think anyone is saying that, but most of us have known how bad the line is this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Can’t throw or run with that kind of O LINE play. Garbage is an understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: The Josh that played today is a Josh we have all seen several times before. When the going gets tough, he goes into hero ball mode, gets very up tight, and just doesn't play well. He'll fumble, take huge sacks for huge losses, make terrible INT throws, miss wide open receivers, etc. We need to find ways to keep things under control so the good Josh plays and not the bad one. OL is going to need major surgery this offseason. Are you seriously blaming josh for this loss, dude was beaten up all day. I don't know what qb is going to have any semblance of a good game with the blocking we saw from the o-line today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said: I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Ford cut this week. He's just a body at this point. Give me a hungry street free agent. Me too- he is really really bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, PayDaBill$ said: Can’t throw or run with that kind of O LINE play. Garbage is an understatement. When there is an opening, our backs have no burst and get closed on fast and dont break tackles they are not strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 When you look at the stats, the difference was the turnovers and penalties. But turnovers were related to the line play and even rest of game weak line play changed everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Just now, billsfan_34 said: When there is an opening, our backs have no burst and get closed on fast and dont break tackles they are not strong. When there’s an opening? Ba ha ha! The only openings I saw was when JA was running for his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: Sweeney was in the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 If you want to reduce a great young QB to a gunshy turnover machine,throw this pathetic O-line out there. We're lucky Allen didn't get knocked out for the year. This team goes nowhere without vast improvement from the O-line. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Chris from Rochester said: Dawkins is really overrated. He’s never impressed me and he was a revolving door against Allen today. I already Shnow we need a better LT if we plan on getting to that next level I would not go that far. Dawkins is a good LT imo but he was awful today. Hard to know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Can't pass block. Can't run the ball, even though we're entirely one dimensional so even with bad run blocking - there should be plays to be made. We've got serious problems right now. This offseason I questioned Beane's decision to keep everything the same with the Offensive Line and the Backfield and expect improvement. Said often "he better be right about this or it's going to look real bad on him". Right now? It's looking REAL bad on him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalojedwardo Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 play calling needs to be adjusted or else this will continue to be magnified. can't just abandon the running game also need some quicker passing plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gflande1 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 So glad we traded away Wyatt Teller. Bills need to use entire draft on OL and CBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) Cody Ford is the Bobby Hart of offensive guards, which is shocking considering he was the best lineman on a talented OU team. Don’t know what happened to the guy, but he’s far from even his rookie performances (which weren’t great, but steady). Also, part of me wants to blame Josh for bailing from a clean pocket multiple times, or refusing to step up when the rush is getting there wide, but I can’t blame him seeing as how the interior is trash. You can see he feels his only escape is out wide to his right. Edited November 7, 2021 by JayBaller10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 That was a brutal drop by Gabe Davis. No replay either. Stunning loss. O line is bad. Dawkins Williams and Ford played about as bad as you can at the NFL level. Josh playing w no confidence. We have 4 really good receivers. Need to stop dinking and dunking. We are not paying Josh big money to look like Trent Edwards w wheels. Play that killed us was running Josh Allen up the middle on 3rd and 2 midway thru the 4th qtr when he fumbled. We were driving and no reason not to be throwing there. Coaching has been less then stellar. Terrible loss. Need Knox back. Sweeney is not a starting NFL player either. In fact, I don't think any of our O lineman are NFL caliber players. They all pretty much stink. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: Dawkins was very good last season. It seems he still hasn't come back 100% from his Covid infection. The biggest problem we have is guard although I thought Daryl Williams had a very bad game today too. If he hasn't by now, he may never. We don't know enough about long COVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said: When there’s an opening? Ba ha ha! The only openings I saw was when JA was running for his life. There was a few lol lol lol but overall agree with ya!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I told ya so moment for me.... Bull. I’ve worried about this line all year. I felt this way before today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I dont think anyone is saying that, but most of us have known how bad the line is this year. The post that I was responding to put the blame for the loss on Allen. He had absolutely no help on the offensive side of the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 So can someone explain to me why Sean declined the holding penalty instead of pushing them out of FG range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Sean McDermott, cost us the game not starting 2 offensive line I just wish McDermott, and Beane should go after this loss the season is over period the team will not recover from this one. Bobby Johnson is the worst line coach in the league and Kelly Skipper is stealing money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 This thread is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Just now, Just in Atlanta said: This thread is terrible. How? You expect us to say they're performing well? Or maybe you expect us to stay positive after dropping two of our last three and just losing to the f'n Jacksonville Jaguars. Get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: My theory is Josh was hurt and knew he couldn't deliver his usual laser to the sideline. But even if true, the option he went with was worse imo. Josh got beat up all game. I believe his throwing shoulder wasn't the same by games end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 This is true been saying this since Ritchie and Woods left . Hopefully Beane realises this and gets it fixed next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 This guy needs to get back fast!!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Like many of us said early in the week, our offensive line is garbage and Allen may have played his worse game in some time. Cody Ford is garbage. He was burned all game and led directly to two picks and 2 sacks. He should never see the field again. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Today was a confluence of factors that led to us looking like the worst o-line in the league. I have no complaints about Morse. Maybe he got beat a couple times but he wasn't a recurring problem. The other 4 were bad to terrible. Dawkins had his worst game of the year. So did Williams. With Brown and Feliciano out we were forced to start Ford and Boettger. Boettger is a backup caliber guard and Ford is not even roster worthy. Plus we are without Knox and Sweeney is a bottom of the roster type of player, not a remotely capable blocker. I felt so bad for Allen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Calling all scouts…. 2022 OL prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Today was a confluence of factors that led to us looking like the worst o-line in the league. I have no complaints about Morse. Maybe he got beat a couple times but he wasn't a recurring problem. The other 4 were bad to terrible. Dawkins had his worst game of the year. So did Williams. With Brown and Feliciano out we were forced to start Ford and Boettger. Boettger is a backup caliber guard and Ford is not even roster worthy. Plus we are without Knox and Sweeney is a bottom of the roster type of player, not a remotely capable blocker. I felt so bad for Allen. Totally agree. Dawkins, IMO, has not fully recovered from his bout with covid. Clearly Ford cannot play any position on the o line. If our backups are better players (e.g. Bates) we need to put them out there. The weakest link in the chain is the most important. It can break the chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: Totally agree. Dawkins, IMO, has not fully recovered from his bout with covid. Clearly Ford cannot play any position on the o line. If our backups are better players (e.g. Bates) we need to put them out there. The weakest link in the chain is the most important. It can break the chain. If Dawkins hasn’t recovered from his Covid the Bills could have a big problem. He has a large contract and it’s possible his body could never return to the same level of function as it previously had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Motor26 said: If Dawkins hasn’t recovered from his Covid the Bills could have a big problem. He has a large contract and it’s possible his body could never return to the same level of function as it previously had. I think he just needs to get stronger...physically and mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Hot garbage. Beane did everything right except this group of hot trash that makes up our OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Told you we need McCaffrey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Totally agree. Dawkins, IMO, has not fully recovered from his bout with covid. Clearly Ford cannot play any position on the o line. If our backups are better players (e.g. Bates) we need to put them out there. The weakest link in the chain is the most important. It can break the chain. I dunno about Bates. But Williams at RT, Ford at RG, and Boettger at LG ARE our backups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Is Bobby Johnson being questioned? For 3.5 years straight our OL is suspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 the biggest worry i have about the O Line from this game is, we knew the interior was hot garbage, our tackles werent much better today. that, is, worrisome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I dunno about Bates. But Williams at RT, Ford at RG, and Boettger at LG ARE our backups You're right...albeit Williams started last year at RT and was moved inside due to Brown's emergence. I think Bates is better out there than Ford at the very least, but I don't know if they've ever tried him at guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 WTF is it gonna take for Bates to get a shot? If he is truly a backup at all 5 OL spots, at least try him over Ford for a series, it can't possibly be worse. I am dumbfounded that we made no halftime adjustments to the OL. Ford down-blocking to triple team a rusher & letting a DT fly directly past him to Josh was the last straw for me. I know we don't know the blocking assigments, but it definitely wasn't supposed to be a triple team. That guy is lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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