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2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I don't think he'll get claimed by a team thinking about next year. But you never know.

Could be a team looking to evaluate their QB, create a splash, etc. KC, Chargers are ahead of us among others 

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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Could be a team looking to evaluate their QB, create a splash, etc. KC, Chargers are ahead of us among others 

Atlanta just lost Ridley, is stitting at 3-4 record wise. Not completely out of a WC spot and may look to get an aging Matt Ryan a weapon for one last run. 

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So there wont be much of a cap issue for any team. Basically get him at the minimum. Ideally one of the teams early in the waiver wire get him so doesn't fall to a contender. Basically a free lottery ticket for someone. Look at Antonio Brown, people said he was done and he ended up helping the Bucs get a Super Bowl and has become a key cog for them. 

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https://abc13.com/shaker-heights-ohio-cleveland-browns-odell-beckham-jr/5193223/

 

Robert Stewart says officers visited him after a neighbor called 911. The neighbor heard Stewart screaming and saw him waving his arms in her front yard.

"I'm calling because there's someone out in front of our house. We just drove home and he's yelling and screaming and, like, flailing his arms," the neighbor, Corita Jackson, told dispatchers in a 911 call.

When officers arrived, Stewart explained to them why he was celebrating.

"'Oh, we got OBJ,'" Stewart recalled telling the officers. Then we dapped it up. Everything was all cool and they went back on about their day."

Stewart also recorded his odd celebration.

"We got Odell! We got Odell! We got, we got, we got Odell!" Stewart recorded.

The neighbors were able to talk about the strange encounter. Jackson recalled, "Then he asked me, 'Are you a Browns fan?' I was like, 'No, not really.' And he was like, well, he was celebrating the Browns' big win. I was like, 'Oh, did they play a game?' He's like, 'No,' they got Odell Beckham Jr. I was like, 'Oh, well congratulations."

 

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4 hours ago, ngbills said:

So there wont be much of a cap issue for any team. Basically get him at the minimum. Ideally one of the teams early in the waiver wire get him so doesn't fall to a contender. Basically a free lottery ticket for someone. Look at Antonio Brown, people said he was done and he ended up helping the Bucs get a Super Bowl and has become a key cog for them. 

Fair, but I think Brown not being “done” had more to do with his chemistry with Brady than anything else. It was a unique situation that worked well for both parties. I can’t think of a good fit for a washed up Beckham. 

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I think for the most part he and his agent will dictate who claims him..........if they know he won't show then a team isn't going to claim him.

 

I think Terrell Suggs got himself released back in 2019 with the intent of returning to Baltimore and instead KC claimed him.........and though initially pissed..........he reported and ended up getting a Lombardi.

 

So OBJ might not get the exact team but I expect he will only go to one that's on a short list of teams he'd accept.     He ain't playing in Detroit, IMO.

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30 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Who does ***** like this??

 

I know nothing of this specific situation. Maybe he really whipped it out and was swinging it around.

 

But my college room mate also got the same charge for peeing behind some shrubs on the walk home from the bar. He was in public, and it was technically out, so there is your exposure charge.

 

I dunno. Just sayin.

 

Just now, Mat68 said:

I think it is officially a Baker and Cleveland thing.  Stefanski also alienated Diggs in Minnesota.  Cleveland has a foundational issue imo.  On paper they look great.  Something is severely off.

 

The Browns will never achieve anything with Haslam running the show. As we know in Buffalo, it all starts at the top. Haslam is toxic and will therefore always hire toxic people in some fashion.

 

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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I know nothing of this specific situation. Maybe he really whipped it out and was swinging it around.

 

But my college room mate also got the same charge for peeing behind some shrubs on the walk home from the bar. He was in public, and it was technically out, so there is your exposure charge.

 

I dunno. Just sayin.

 

 

The Browns will never achieve anything with Haslam running the show. As we know in Buffalo, it all starts at the top. Haslam is toxic and will therefore always hire toxic people in some fashion.

 

Sounds like he got physical with the cops again. If you’re peeing behind a building and get busted, take the ticket and walk away in shame. I can’t tell you what he actually did, but I can tell you this is the second time he’s had a physical altercation with police and he’s done in the NFL.

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Just now, MiltonWaddams said:

Sounds like he got physical with the cops again. If you’re peeing behind a building and get busted, take the ticket and walk away in shame. I can’t tell you what he actually did, but I can tell you this is the second time he’s had a physical altercation with police and he’s done in the NFL.

Must not have bought Baker's 'Getting Along With Our LEO Friends' DVD.

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2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Sounds like he got physical with the cops again. If you’re peeing behind a building and get busted, take the ticket and walk away in shame. I can’t tell you what he actually did, but I can tell you this is the second time he’s had a physical altercation with police and he’s done in the NFL.

 

I aint defending the dumbass at all. He definitely made a number of bad choices if that's what folks are tweeting about this morning.

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OBJ clearly wasn't "washed" like he was labeled.  Speaks volumes that he can walk into a new team, new playbook, new QB, etc and immediately produce while in Cleveland where he had been for a while they couldn't get him involved.  

 

Who the problem is in Cleveland is a legit question...Baker, HC, GM?  All of them?  If I was the Browns, I would clean house right now...fire everyone in the FO and Coaching Staff and bring in a new regime to work with Baker this next season one last time before they are forced to make a decision on Baker.  Its easier to reset the office than give up on the first pick in the draft who has at times looked like he could be a franchise guy.  

 

I would also look to trade Hunt or Chubb.  D'Ernest Johsnon filled in quite nicely when needed, they can afford to move one of the other RB's.  Use them to bring back some cap space and draft capital to help boost the rest of the roster.  

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4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

The Browns will never achieve anything with Haslam running the show. As we know in Buffalo, it all starts at the top. Haslam is toxic and will therefore always hire toxic people in some fashion.

 

I just posted something about this in the Cowboys thread.  It's the same situation in both franchises.   The owner is the leader, and not everyone who gets to be an owner is a great leader.   Hard not to reach the same conclusion about WFT, too.  

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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

I just posted something about this in the Cowboys thread.  It's the same situation in both franchises.   The owner is the leader, and not everyone who gets to be an owner is a great leader.   Hard not to reach the same conclusion about WFT, too.  

 

How do you feel about the Bills ownership?

 

And the Sabres?

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29 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

How do you feel about the Bills ownership?

 

And the Sabres?

Hah!  Good question.  Not to cop out, but I don't follow hockey at all, so I really don't have an opinion about how the Sabres are managed. 

 

I think Bills ownership is very good.   I think they have the right touch between involvement and hands-off the football stuff.   They help and support the football people.   Most importantly, they learned quickly from their experience with Rex, really learned.   They recognized what's special about McDermott, and they collaborated with McDermott to get Beane, and then they collaborated with McDermott and Beane to get Allen.   I think it's a great thing, for example, that the owner can go on interview trips to see Allen but still not control the decision making.   Stuff like that is important. 

 

So, I think the Pegulas deserve credit.   Why that ability doesn't or hasn't translated to the Sabres, I can't say.   I mean, we all know that different kinds of organizations require different kinds of leadership.   It's not one-size-fits-all.   Just because I can lead an organization of 20 people doesn't mean I can lead one with 150 people.   Maybe leadership of a relatively large organization requires some skills, and leadership of a relatively small organization requires something different.   I don't know. 

 

And there's more than that.  I don't think Terry Pegula takes on projects expecting to fail, and I don't think Kim is much different.  They are purposeful, determined people.   In that way, they are like McDermott.  Maybe they got lucky when they found McDermott, but the lessons they've learned from him will not be lost on them.  They can see that their leadership of the Sabres is what will determine their success, and I'd be amazed if they haven't consulted with, and continue to consult with, hockey gurus about what behaviors they should adopt.  

 

Why haven't they succeeded after many false starts?   I don't know.  But I'm still betting on them. 

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