MNF - Giants at Chiefs 8:15 ESPN

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Mahomes doesn't look good

 

Way too much talk about needing to go through all the reads. Thats not something you hear about from a rodgers or Brady 

[BuffaloRebound]

Chiefs are still gonna win the AFC West.  Hard to trust the Raiders.  Herbert’s gold jacket is being put on hold.  And Denver ain’t going anywhere.  

[Scott7975]

Just now, BuffaloRebound said:

Chiefs are still gonna win the AFC West.  Hard to trust the Raiders.  Herbert’s gold jacket is being put on hold.  And Denver ain’t going anywhere.  

 

Chiefs are done.  Dynasty was short lived.

[Jeffbigalls]

Just now, Scott7975 said:

 

Chiefs are done.  Dynasty was short lived.

Until they aren't, and if the do make the playoffs that will be an amazing accomplishment with the schedule.they have. The looked about as good as the bills looked yesterday against a horrendous lolphins team.

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, Jeffbigalls said:

Until they aren't, and if the do make the playoffs that will be an amazing accomplishment with the schedule.they have. The looked about as good as the bills looked yesterday against a horrendous lolphins team.

 

Sure sure

[Governor]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Chiefs are still gonna win the AFC West.  Hard to trust the Raiders.  Herbert’s gold jacket is being put on hold.  And Denver ain’t going anywhere.  

Chargers will likely beat KC for the division in week 15 and then the Steelers will finish them off. 
 

They’re playing some of these teams at the wrong time.

[Billznut]

47 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

Mahomes ran off like it was all him..... SICK.... a real QB realizes he did not play the best and does not acts like god

Yep. Grade A D-bag. So not really shocked by that. That’s also why I cherish and celebrate every Mahomes turnover and Chief loss. And always will. I loathe that team and QB and wish nothing good for either. 

[Fan in Chicago]

38 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Mahomes doesn't look good

 

Way too much talk about needing to go through all the reads. Thats not something you hear about from a rodgers or Brady 

I saw only about a quarter today and thought Mahomes has suddenly become Patrentative

[Warcodered]

 

[Warcodered]

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

46 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

Ooh that's harsh, Mina

[DrPJax]

3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I have never heard the term before, but it is going straight into my vocabulary now.

Great point ,,,,,maybe it was meant to be ,,,,,KC being exposed on national TV and not being completely up to the challenge!  😂👍. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving team of usually un-humble guys!  Kind of like having one’s pants drop in the chill of a November night and everything wants to get Back to where it’s warm , kind of an inward reflex!  Yep,,,,KC got served that humble penis feeling even while avoiding the loss.  They failed to leave the same sizable impression as the prior twos years ,,,,,,,,yep, a serving ol humble penis after performance inadequacy!     IOS from Apple may be onto something after is latest “ soft “ ware update! 👍😀😂

[BruceVilanch]

Here's a quote from Patrick, the bolded part I could never see Josh or a number of other top tier QBs saying:

 

"We can move the ball on pretty much every coverage," Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes said. "We have answers for every [defense]. But you've seen it every game pretty much that there's been times when we stall out or we don't execute or I throw the ball and I don't hit the right spot or the receiver doesn't see it the same way I do or penalties or turnovers."

 

every bad game Josh has had he always says things like "I need to be better" or "this is on me." he never groups in the team with the loss, he rarely uses the word "We" after a loss, it's always "me." The "We" stuff comes after wins not L's.

[CEN-CAL17]

Crazy… cause our best “quality” win (KC) almost just lost to the Giants at home without Barkley…. 
 

I guess we will have to see how well they play against TB to truly gauge if this team is a contender.

 

Indy will be a tough game, also NE.

[Billznut]

41 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said:

Here's a quote from Patrick, the bolded part I could never see Josh or a number of other top tier QBs saying:

 

"We can move the ball on pretty much every coverage," Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes said. "We have answers for every [defense]. But you've seen it every game pretty much that there's been times when we stall out or we don't execute or I throw the ball and I don't hit the right spot or the receiver doesn't see it the same way I do or penalties or turnovers."

 

every bad game Josh has had he always says things like "I need to be better" or "this is on me." he never groups in the team with the loss, he rarely uses the word "We" after a loss, it's always "me." The "We" stuff comes after wins not L's.

Mahomes has a GIANT ego in case anyone has missed that previously. He was bragging about the team aiming for 20-0 this year before the season started. It’s been great watching him struggle and lose games this year. I hope they keep right on struggling and losing. 

[JMF2006]

6 hours ago, ngbills said:

NFL will help them out. Mahomes is still the product they want to sell. How you throw a late offside flag when he did not cross the line anyway after an int is absurd and a equally bad facemask. Don’t make it so obvious. 

 

If you watch the replay the flag is out before the ball is thrown.

 

The line judge threw it underhand and it came out low so the announce crew missed it.

 

No trying to save the day for little Patty by the refs...it was legit.

[JMF2006]

BTW I am not one for moral victories but the G men kept it close and made some good plays on D.

 

Young Daniel looks to be a game manager not a game changer ,he should have a long career as a BU QB

 

 

One more thing...

 

If that game is at the Met I think the G men win it.

49 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Crazy… cause our best “quality” win (KC) almost just lost to the Giants at home without Barkley…. 
 

I guess we will have to see how well they play against TB to truly gauge if this team is a contender.

 

Indy will be a tough game, also NE.

 

We have 5 really tough games left Indy TB,NO and NEx2

[GunnerBill]

I don't have a lot of time this morning for work reasons so one reflection for you.....

 

The biggest issue with the Chiefs offense last night was Patrick Mahomes. Even watching the condensed game on GamePass on my commute this morning I was rewatching plays where he was drifting out of the pocket and holding the ball looking for kill shots when there was a clean pocket and open guys for him underneath. He is mentally way off at the moment. If KC hadn't been able to establish a decent run game with Williams and Gore they lose this game. Yes, his weapons beyond hill and Kelce are not great. Pringle and Robinson are JAGs, Hardman is a gadget player only. But when Mahomes just stood in the pocket, executed his read and got the ball out it looked like the KC offense from last year. The throw to Kelce where he ended up fumbling it was a classic example.  Mahomes takes the snap, reads the coverage gets the ball out on time and has Kelce for a nice gain (he has to hold onto the ball). Why he isn't doing that more often I have no idea. He is making his pass protection look worse than it is by drifting into areas of the field that the blocking scheme is not designed to protect. That was just flat out bad.

[oldmanfan]

9 hours ago, Dukestreetking said:

Hah, Peyton just invoked the "matriculate down the field" quip.

 

Must be following @oldmanfan

Great minds think alike

[nucci]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I don't have a lot of time this morning for work reasons so one reflection for you.....

 

The biggest issue with the Chiefs offense last night was Patrick Mahomes. Even watching the condensed game on GamePass on my commute this morning I was rewatching plays where he was drifting out of the pocket and holding the ball looking for kill shots when there was a clean pocket and open guys for him underneath. He is mentally way off at the moment. If KC hadn't been able to establish a decent run game with Williams and Gore they lose this game. Yes, his weapons beyond hill and Kelce are not great. Pringle and Robinson are JAGs, Hardman is a gadget player only. But when Mahomes just stood in the pocket, executed his read and got the ball out it looked like the KC offense from last year. The throw to Kelce where he ended up fumbling it was a classic example.  Mahomes takes the snap, reads the coverage gets the ball out on time and has Kelce for a nice gain (he has to hold onto the ball). Why he isn't doing that more often I have no idea. He is making his pass protection look worse than it is by drifting into areas of the field that the blocking scheme is not designed to protect. That was just flat out bad.

I concur. They are not as talented on offense as most think. Only Kelce and Hill and Giants covered Kelce well last night

[Ralonzo]

8 hours ago, DrPJax said:

Actually family practice and urgent care , so that covers just about any field to some extent.  This iPad Pro is convenient but it really does take liberties with autocorrect. 😀😂

 

In that case I'm just going to assume that humble penis is that medical condition where you can't relieve yourself into the trough because everyone is watching. As I recall, the therapeutic involved more beer.

[Big Turk]

KC was lucky to win that game. The Giants ineptness with the clock and dumb play calls on offense basically sealed their loss.

[mannc]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

I don't have a lot of time this morning for work reasons so one reflection for you.....

 

The biggest issue with the Chiefs offense last night was Patrick Mahomes. Even watching the condensed game on GamePass on my commute this morning I was rewatching plays where he was drifting out of the pocket and holding the ball looking for kill shots when there was a clean pocket and open guys for him underneath. He is mentally way off at the moment. If KC hadn't been able to establish a decent run game with Williams and Gore they lose this game. Yes, his weapons beyond hill and Kelce are not great. Pringle and Robinson are JAGs, Hardman is a gadget player only. But when Mahomes just stood in the pocket, executed his read and got the ball out it looked like the KC offense from last year. The throw to Kelce where he ended up fumbling it was a classic example.  Mahomes takes the snap, reads the coverage gets the ball out on time and has Kelce for a nice gain (he has to hold onto the ball). Why he isn't doing that more often I have no idea. He is making his pass protection look worse than it is by drifting into areas of the field that the blocking scheme is not designed to protect. That was just flat out bad.

Who would have thought?…..State Farm Guy is now a liability.

[starrymessenger]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

KC was lucky to win that game. The Giants ineptness with the clock and dumb play calls on offense basically sealed their loss.

And two bad penalties in what should have been the go ahead drive at the end of the game. Just brutal.

[fergie's ire]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I don't have a lot of time this morning for work reasons so one reflection for you.....

 

The biggest issue with the Chiefs offense last night was Patrick Mahomes. Even watching the condensed game on GamePass on my commute this morning I was rewatching plays where he was drifting out of the pocket and holding the ball looking for kill shots when there was a clean pocket and open guys for him underneath. He is mentally way off at the moment. If KC hadn't been able to establish a decent run gamNe with Williams and Gore they lose this game. Yes, his weapons beyond hill and Kelce are not great. Pringle and Robinson are JAGs, Hardman is a gadget player only. But when Mahomes just stood in the pocket, executed his read and got the ball out it looked like the KC offense from last year. The throw to Kelce where he ended up fumbling it was a classic example.  Mahomes takes the snap, reads the coverage gets the ball out on time and has Kelce for a nice gain (he has to hold onto the ball). Why he isn't doing that more often I have no idea. He is making his pass protection look worse than it is by drifting into areas of the field that the blocking scheme is not designed to protect. That was just flat out bad.

It looked to me like the biggest issue with Mahomes was on 3rd and long.  They would also find a way to convert those in the past.  Now, he looks hesitant.  It's as if he turns into Tyrod Taylor and will hold the ball and only throw to guys who are wide open.

 

[LABILLBACKER]

State Farm is lucky he didn't have 4 ints in this game. 

[Jeffbigalls]

Well the guy on twitters ticket hit for 125k

Bet 1000 at 125x that Mike white would lead the league in passing yards in week 8

Edited November 2, 2021 by Jeffbigalls

[starrymessenger]

5 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

Here's a quote from Patrick, the bolded part I could never see Josh or a number of other top tier QBs saying:

 

"We can move the ball on pretty much every coverage," Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes said. "We have answers for every [defense]. But you've seen it every game pretty much that there's been times when we stall out or we don't execute or I throw the ball and I don't hit the right spot or the receiver doesn't see it the same way I do or penalties or turnovers."

 

every bad game Josh has had he always says things like "I need to be better" or "this is on me." he never groups in the team with the loss, he rarely uses the word "We" after a loss, it's always "me." The "We" stuff comes after wins not L's.

Absolutely. And it’s not the first time he has run his mouth like that, notably after last years championship game. Allen would never do that. Would take it upon himself or the team as a whole, but no specific player or position group. Allen clearly has better intangibles and that actually counts for something, sometimes quite a lot when it comes to team chemistry. Mahomes looks to have regressed to training camp 2018. At least he got paid.

Chiefs aren’t going anywhere with that D. They are still a dangerous team but it’s starting to look like only any given Sunday dangerous. TB figured them out. Drop the safeties, take away the big play and the Chiefs are just not good enough to sustain long drives consistently enuf. And I suspect it’s only going to get worse this year as the season progresses all other things being equal. I’m actually a little surprised that it took as long as it did for opposing DCs to adjust.

[PatsFanNH]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

KC was lucky to win that game. The Giants ineptness with the clock and dumb play calls on offense basically sealed their loss.

Also a horrible horrible Facemask call on the last drive gave them amazing position to get the game winning FG.

[78thealltimegreat]

12 hours ago, Rico said:

Don’t forget Derek Carr.

Yeh point taken 

[DrPJax]

6 hours ago, Billznut said:

Mahomes has a GIANT ego in case anyone has missed that previously. He was bragging about the team aiming for 20-0 this year before the season started. It’s been great watching him struggle and lose games this year. I hope they keep right on struggling and losing. 

Madden curse still playing a role!?  Lol! 

[SoTier]

I think that the problem with Mahomes may be that because of his great early success on a team loaded with offensive talent he simply hasn't mastered many of the QB skills he needs for success now that there's less offensive talent around him.  His own raw talent and the talent around him masked Mahomes' shortcomings, but now they are starting to surface.    His problems seem to stem from recognizing coverages and decision making which are common problems from QBs much earlier in their careers as starters.   He doesn't seem to be able to find alternatives to his first or second receiver choices nor to have the patience to throw underneath coverage -- he's always looking to make the big play even if it's not available.

[The Frankish Reich]

5 hours ago, Jeffbigalls said:

Well the guy on twitters ticket hit for 125k

Bet 1000 at 125x that Mike white would lead the league in passing yards in week 8

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/32528020/bettor-wins-125k-mike-white-career-week
 

OK, which TBD poster mysteriously started posting from the Lanai Four Seasons today??