78thealltimegreat Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Half the board blaming him for a loss in which he was responsible for 4 touchdowns and threw for over 350 yards…man how far we’ve come since arguing on here if it’s time to start Jeff Tuel 6 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Yes 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PromoTheRobot Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I don't think half the board is blaming Allen. Most are blaming the defense. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Yes. Guilty as charged. Even the announcers are guilty. Josh can make any play you want him to make on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: Yes. Guilty as charged. Even the announcers are guilty. Josh can make any play you want him to make on the field. Well he can’t, that’s the problem. I can’t get over what we were thinking, drafting a human being as a Quarterback… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, MJS said: I don't think half the board is blaming Allen. Most are blaming the defense. Agreed. I think there's a vocal minority upset with Allen, but they are idiots. 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Half the board blaming him for a loss in which he was responsible for 4 touchdowns and threw for over 350 yards…man how far we’ve come since arguing on here if it’s time to start Jeff Tuel Are you crediting Allen for the Titans first TD after the INT? Buffalo only scored 3 TDs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 When a guy who's been down on his luck for 20 years finally gets a good job and turns his life around, is he spoiled? When Josh has a hand full of SB rings, maybe I'll feel spoiled. For now, I'm just enjoying the ride. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 He's the most talented QB in the game. Closest thing to Elway, who in my opinion was the most physically gifted QB I’ve ever seen. Hopefully it doesn’t take 15 years to put a Super Bowl winning team around him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Yes. Guilty as charged. Even the announcers are guilty. Josh can make any play you want him to make on the field. 4 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Well he can’t, that’s the problem. I can’t get over what we were thinking, drafting a human being as a Quarterback… Actually, he can. But as you said, he's human, so he doesn't always do what he's capable of doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I was thinking how spoiled we are about playoff appearances. We only just finished week 6, but people are more concerned with how this loss might potentially affect home field advantage in the AFC playoff picture. THINK ABOUT THAT! Us Bills fans, who only recently were sweating it out hoping to just have a puncher's chance to even be relevant in December... and would've punted a kitten for just a one & done playoff appearance, are now more concerned with home field advantage throughout the entire post season... in week 6! Playoffs? Don't talk about... Playoffs?! We're talking first round byes, home field throughout, and a Super Bowl baby! 😁 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 to some extent yes. In fact, Allen's greatness may be holding the team back a bit! (sarcastic) How??? Here is how: the OL is trash right now. Allen covers up for their deficiencies, but look at the RB play. Yeah, both RB's are average, but neither can sustain anything behind this line. Allen would have had MORE TD passes yesterday if he were not under pressure all night. Another QB last night takes like 5 sacks, throws 3 picks, and has overall negative rushing yards. I'm not sure we are spoiled by how great he is, but he OL certainly is. They should buy him a year end gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I was thinking how spoiled we are about playoff appearances. We only just finished week 6, but people are more concerned with how this loss might potentially affect home field advantage in the AFC playoff picture. THINK ABOUT THAT! Us Bills fans, who only recently were sweating it out hoping to just have a puncher's chance to even be relevant in December... and would've punted a kitten for just a one & done playoff appearance, are now more concerned with home field advantage throughout the entire post season... in week 6! Playoffs? Don't talk about... Playoffs?! We're talking first round byes, home field throughout, and a Super Bowl baby! 😁 The Bills play in a division with Moe, Larry, and Curly. I know its only 6 weeks in but both the Bills and Cowboys(same reason as the Bills) have clinched playoff spots already. Unless injuries or covid hits you might as well put that little "y" next to their name in the paper that says "clinched division". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Half the board blaming him for a loss in which he was responsible for 4 touchdowns and threw for over 350 yards…man how far we’ve come since arguing on here if it’s time to start Jeff Tuel please provide quotes of people blaming Josh for the loss. I don't think anyone is. Seems like trying to manufacture controversy. Some said he could have hit open WR's while under tremendous pressure like he has in the past, but no one is saying he is why we lost. As I said earlier, if we have an average QB or most other QB's that guy looks terrible yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Actually, he can. But as you said, he's human, so he doesn't always do what he's capable of doing. Ah semantics. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, MJS said: I don't think half the board is blaming Allen. Most are blaming the defense. No, not half the board, but there were some very vocal people arguing that POV last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 People blame Josh for that? Our offensive line is hot garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Half the board blaming him for a loss in which he was responsible for 4 touchdowns and threw for over 350 yards…man how far we’ve come since arguing on here if it’s time to start Jeff Tuel Haha I have said that same thing in like 4 threads so far 🤣 yes we definitely are desensitized to magical Josh allen absolute missles thrown on the run while being chased by 4 dlinemen...its incredible what this guy has been able to do with a pretty poor offensive line this season. This was a vintage Josh putting the team on his back game we just came up literally inches short 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Anybody notice the announcers have this weird obsession with Daboll? If Allen makes any good play, it's a credit to Daboll. If Allen makes a mistake, it's on Allen. What's up with that? Is he so good he's disrupting some sort of matrix? Or are people such zombies they stick to their opinions rain, sleet, or snow for years? "Allen had Sanders wide open in the end zone! How could he miss that?!". (While he's running for his life) "Allen had the easiest TD of his life to Beasley there. Easiest throw of his career". (While 4 guys chasing and on the run firing a perfectly accurate missile to go ahead in a game against a playoff team on the road before half during primetime). I want to say it's comedic, but I feel like Allen is exposing something about human nature. I just can't figure out what it is. And why can't everybody get behind the most talented to QB we might ever have seen in the NFL? No stories about his arm strength? His hurdling? His velocity? Don't national fans love hearing about that kind of stuff? Why is Daboll the better story? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 You can say the guy had a bad game without being spoiled. Stats dont mean jack. He had 47 passing attempts, he better have decent yards. Compared to only 13 true rushing attempts by the Offense. Spoiled would be calling to cut him after one bad game. I'm still rolling with him as my MVP and soon-to-be Super Bowl champ. Doesnt mean I cant say he was not comfortable and had an off night in a close loss. I will say Bills fans have become a little spoiled in general this year. Folks at halftime were sounding like the team was a disaster when really, we have been blowing teams out so badly, we forgot what it was like to be in a good ol dog fight of a game. I was still confident we'd be in it at the end, and we were. Oh well, lots for the team to look at over the Bye. Josh's performance is part of that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 We're getting spoiled by beating up on crappy teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Greg S said: The Bills play in a division with Moe, Larry, and Curly. I know its only 6 weeks in but both the Bills and Cowboys(same reason as the Bills) have clinched playoff spots already. Unless injuries or covid hits you might as well put that little "y" next to their name in the paper that says "clinched division". I would say the Titans too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Half the board blaming him for a loss in which he was responsible for 4 touchdowns and threw for over 350 yards…man how far we’ve come since arguing on here if it’s time to start Jeff Tuel Yes and no…. In the case of the game last night, I don’t think you can blame Allen for not converting the 2 RZ touchdowns, when he kept putting points on the board. The defense was the main issue. I do think there are times in the past where Allen played subpar and fans were overly protective of him. To your point, Allen looks to be the real deal, as long as that happens, the Bills are going to compete every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Yes and no…. In the case of the game last night, I don’t think you can blame Allen for not converting the 2 RZ touchdowns, when he kept putting points on the board. The defense was the main issue. I do think there are times in the past where Allen played subpar and fans were overly protective of him. To your point, Allen looks to be the real deal, as long as that happens, the Bills are going to compete every year. When the offense puts up 31 points, you’d expect to win most of those games. Let’s hope we beat the teams we should beat before meeting the Bucs in December, then see how we do against a legit SB contender. If we drop another game before then, I won’t hang my head. This is the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I think those who seen him play live will agree with me he's so entertaining to watch. I saw him in the Houston playoff game and was as frustrating as entertaining. Last night, he kept me at the edge of my seat. He's worth the price of admission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 6 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: You can say the guy had a bad game without being spoiled. Stats dont mean jack. He had 47 passing attempts, he better have decent yards. Compared to only 13 true rushing attempts by the Offense. Spoiled would be calling to cut him after one bad game. I'm still rolling with him as my MVP and soon-to-be Super Bowl champ. Doesnt mean I cant say he was not comfortable and had an off night in a close loss. I will say Bills fans have become a little spoiled in general this year. Folks at halftime were sounding like the team was a disaster when really, we have been blowing teams out so badly, we forgot what it was like to be in a good ol dog fight of a game. I was still confident we'd be in it at the end, and we were. Oh well, lots for the team to look at over the Bye. Josh's performance is part of that. You think he had an off night? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I think we are spoiled by QB play across the NFL. 5 years ago Allen's play right now would be bar none the best in the league. This year there are more than 5 QBs that are playing at an elite level. That makes what he's doing seem less impressive. Personally after watching 20 years of just awful QB play I am not going to nitpick him. He had one truly bad drive last night but the TDs he singlehandedly carries us to more than makes up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, Augie said: When the offense puts up 31 points, you’d expect to win most of those games. Let’s hope we beat the teams we should beat before meeting the Bucs in December, then see how we do against a legit SB contender. If we drop another game before then, I won’t hang my head. This is the NFL. This is especially true when playing a ball control running team like the Titans. I get that against Arizona or KC 31 points might not be enough but against teams like the Titans or Indy it should be more then enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I think we are spoiled by QB play across the NFL. 5 years ago Allen's play right now would be bar none the best in the league. This year there are more than 5 QBs that are playing at an elite level. That makes what he's doing seem less impressive. Personally after watching 20 years of just awful QB play I am not going to nitpick him. He had one truly bad drive last night but the TDs he singlehandedly carries us to more than makes up for it. I guess I don’t know what people want…he completed 75% of his throws, if he had finished the drive everyone keeps referring to it would have been like 400+yards, over 80% completion, likely 4TDs…is that now our threshold of acceptability somehow? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I guess I don’t know what people want…he completed 75% of his throws, if he had finished the drive everyone keeps referring to it would have been like 400+yards, over 80% completion, likely 4TDs…is that now our threshold of acceptability somehow? Anyone remember when a 300 yard game might have led to thousands of people at the airport at 2:00am and a parade? He tried to do too much late. You can coach that down, but it’s hard to fix a guy who is afraid to throw a ball down the field or doesn’t have the arm to make it work. . Edited October 20, 2021 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 For me looked more comfortable and poised last night than I've ever seen. His decision making is also better than ever, and he makes it look oh so easy. All while covering up for a mediocre offensive line and RBs ,and a defense that looked like swiss cheese. I don't get the people who think he looked anything other than smooth ,decisive, confident and under control last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Imagine how good Josh Allen would look if we actually made investments on the of line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Most people know the window is open “Now”. next season is an entirely new deal and the team as a whole may not be as good. So i can see why fans are being fanatical about Josh, etc. Get the home field and win this thing. This Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I guess I don’t know what people want…he completed 75% of his throws, if he had finished the drive everyone keeps referring to it would have been like 400+yards, over 80% completion, likely 4TDs…is that now our threshold of acceptability somehow? It's just that his stat line last night is no longer rare. Top tier QBs are expected to do that regularly against bad pass defenses. I'm not disagreeing with you though. One bad drive and a couple missed passes does not mean he is to blame for the loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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