Why is taunting a penalty?

[LeGOATski]

Guys like Barry Sanders and Larry Fitzgerald are good for the league. They made plenty of opponents look like fools and scored plenty of touchdowns, but were always professional.

 

You can hype up yourself and your team without unsportsmanlike conduct.

[JoPoy88]

18 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Guys like Barry Sanders and Larry Fitzgerald are good for the league. They made plenty of opponents look like fools and scored plenty of touchdowns, but were always professional.

 

You can hype up yourself and your team without unsportsmanlike conduct.

agreed. I don’t think taunting should be enforced like this, but it is what it is, take a step away from the guy and do your thing.

 

I also think jagoffs that start threads and end it with “discuss” and never return to their thread should be banned for a year. But hey? Who makes the rules anyway

[BillsShredder83]

I personally think taunting looks bad for the game, but there's a line.

Josh spiking the ball at the Chargers feet last year, although I loved it, penalty.

Levi Wallace giving a Rick Flair Wooooooo, and a flex is weak af penalty.

How about refs learn to call a Jerry Hughes holding, or to learn what the 🤬🤬🤬🤬 a catch is, before we move onto trivial things.

Football is a primal highly emotional game. Hockey allows fist fights, and the NFL is flagging things that belong in the game. Goodell has continually weakened my fav product ughhhhh 

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Azucho98 said:

 

 

To stop brawls like this....

Omg a brawl from 10 years before most players were even born!!! Long overdue 🙄🙄

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

Guys like Barry Sanders and Larry Fitzgerald are good for the league. They made plenty of opponents look like fools and scored plenty of touchdowns, but were always professional.

 

You can hype up yourself and your team without unsportsmanlike conduct.

I prefer a nice mix of both types

[Bad Things]

Ever hear of sportsmanship?

 

Taunting and acting like a jerk should have no place in sports.  (Not saying that Levi Wallace's penalty was that bad.)

[Dan Darragh]

8 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

You can look up the exact language of it but I’m sure you won’t considering what you post around here. 

You hurt my feelings!  

 

(But you enjoyed doing it, didn't you?)

5 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

I also think jagoffs that start threads and end it with “discuss” and never return to their thread should be banned for a year. But hey? Who makes the rules anyway

You, too.  15 yard penalty for hurting my feelings.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

 

[bobobonators]

Im all for taunting penalties. I thought Levi’s yesterday was borderline. Id be interested to know what he said as he flexed and looked down at him. That may have influenced the outcome. 

[Solomon Grundy]

IMO, that was a bogus call against Wallace

[ToBillsFan]

Not sure if anyone has played sports growing up but when you’re playing a competitive game the juices are flowing. I can’t even imagine a high impact game like football and having to hold in your emotions. We don’t hear half the things these players say to each other before and during the game so when a big play gets made I’m all for letting it be known that you owned that player. It build momentum for yourself and your team. I think as long as you don’t physically touch the other player or waste a lot of time then let it go because these players have been held back so much on what they can do, it’s starting to change the game.

[Nuncha]

7 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Omg a brawl from 10 years before most players were even born!!! Long overdue 🙄🙄

What does the age of the video have to do with "why is taunting a penalty"?  Clearly the reason beyond your comprehension.

Edited September 20, 2021 by Azucho98

[CountDorkula]

13 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

The “No Fun League” has eliminated any possibility of bad blood between teams, or true grudge matches. I miss the bad blood, loved when it was in the NBA too. Those Bulls/Pistons and Knicks/Heat matches used to be epic.

The issue is i see taunting every play, and it only gets called half the time.

 

There is no consistency to it at all.

 

 

Call it or don't.

[Boatdrinks]

The league is just dumb at times. 

[Just Jack]

13 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Are they worried that someone's feelings might get hurt?

 

Discuss.

 

Oh, you think you're hot *****, coming in here with just 300 posts and believe your thread is the greatest?  Well it's not....

 

 

[JESSEFEFFER]

59 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Im all for taunting penalties. I thought Levi’s yesterday was borderline. Id be interested to know what he said as he flexed and looked down at him. That may have influenced the outcome. 

 

Good point.  The visuals may or may not look bad but the audio may be what cross the line.  Although Josh's stare down and ball spin vs. the Chargers needed no verbal communication.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 hours ago, djp14150 said:

You can make a play and celebrate. You can’t do it in an opponents face.  Especially if you are standing over them.

 

 

 

Or as in Wallace case, still lying on top of them jawing

 

18 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

The issue is i see taunting every play, and it only gets called half the time.

 

There is no consistency to it at all.

 

Call it or don't.

 

This is the real issue - consistency, at least within the game

[Teddy KGB]

Lamar Jackson slowing down to somersault backwards into the EZ.  

 

not a taunt 😬

[WhoTom]

2 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

 

 

A casual glance at this thread would indicate that Matt hasn't interviewed everybody.

 

 

[Don Otreply]

12 hours ago, ticketssince61 said:

... but after a turnover, having the whole defense running the entire length of the field, sliding in the endzone, and doing a choreographed routine is not?

Correct, it is not, such a celebration as you described is not done in the face of an opponent, it is done for the TV camera 🎥 with the league’s okay 👍 , would have thought that was pretty obvious. 

Celebrating is different than Taunting. 

25 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

A casual glance at this thread would indicate that Matt hasn't interviewed everybody.

 

 

For Matt, words, definitions, and rules are hard…,

[Don Otreply]

53 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Or as in Wallace case, still lying on top of them jawing

 

 

This is the real issue - consistency, at least within the game

Consistency has always been a problem with the refs regardless of what’s being called, always has been, always will be, frustrating as hell sometimes.

[Jauronimo]

The NFL made taunting and celebrations illegal because these things make a certain segment of our population highly uncomfortable.  

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Azucho98 said:

What does the age of the video have to do with "why is taunting a penalty"?  Clearly the reason beyond your comprehension.

The NFL hasn't had a brawl problem. The video linked as supporting evidence is 30years old lol not really relevant to a rule change now 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

The NFL made taunting and celebrations illegal because these things make a certain segment of our population highly uncomfortable.  

 

But then they've relaxed the rule on celebrations, because they're popular with the fans so....

[klos63]

9 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I personally think taunting looks bad for the game, but there's a line.

Josh spiking the ball at the Chargers feet last year, although I loved it, penalty.

Levi Wallace giving a Rick Flair Wooooooo, and a flex is weak af penalty.

How about refs learn to call a Jerry Hughes holding, or to learn what the 🤬🤬🤬🤬 a catch is, before we move onto trivial things.

Football is a primal highly emotional game. Hockey allows fist fights, and the NFL is flagging things that belong in the game. Goodell has continually weakened my fav product ughhhhh 

Hockey doesn't allow fighting, there is a penalty for it, just as there is a penalty for taunting.

[BillsShredder83]

6 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Hockey doesn't allow fighting, there is a penalty for it, just as there is a penalty for taunting.

That penalty doesn't create a disadvantage OR ALLOW REFS TO ALTER THE GAME. This stinks of Vegas. No need to introduce another rule that they knew would be difficult to enforce evenly

[Thunderstruck]

Gotta avoid stuff like this. Think of the children...

 

 

[WhoTom]

5 minutes ago, Thunderstruck said:

Gotta avoid stuff like this. Think of the children...

 

 

 

 

They should have called for a measurement on that last one.

 

[Nuncha]

49 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

The NFL hasn't had a brawl problem. The video linked as supporting evidence is 30years old lol not really relevant to a rule change now 

Eliminate the taunting penalty and what will happen???

Edited September 20, 2021 by Azucho98

[MJS]

15 hours ago, Mango said:

A couple things. 
 

He didn’t get up then flex. He flexed while on him. I don’t think the flag was thrown for that because it happened quick. He was flagged for being on top of him, flexing, then yelling at him while he was still on top of him. 
 

I hated the call, but it wasn’t undeserved either. That one is on Wallace not the refs 

I don't think taunting is that big of a deal, personally. If they want to throw flags for that stuff, whatever, but what concerns me is Wallace KNOWS that the refs are emphasizing it. He should be going out of his way to ensure that he isn't doing anything even close to taunting. He needs to be smarter and more disciplined than that, not because taunting is so horrible, but because the rules and the emphasis are so clear and it's so easy to avoid those flags.

[Nuncha]

14 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

difference is no one cares about your feelings. 

let’s explore this question. You go out in the street and taunt some big ass tough dudes who hit for a living and get back to us. 

The question was "why is taunting a penalty".  I provided clear video evidence why taunting needs to be a penalty and also stated (indirectly) if you eliminate taunting you will revert to brawls on the field.  So what was it you didn't understand?

[BillsShredder83]

49 minutes ago, Azucho98 said:

Eliminate the taunting penalty and what will happen???

They had it as far back as I can remember they just weren't calling it for ticy tacy things. The enforcement was fine before. Tyreek does a back flip in the EZ, throw the flag, if Levi freaking Wallace flexes after a big play look the other way. They draw more attention to it with the flag than letting it go

[TheyCallMeAndy]

17 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Are they worried that someone's feelings might get hurt?

 

Discuss.

Because kids emulate what they see on the field, and parents don’t want an 8 year old ‘showing up’ another 8 year old after a big hit. 
 

That’s the best explanation I’ve heard, celebrate on the sideline. 

[Dan Darragh]

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Because kids emulate what they see on the field, and parents don’t want an 8 year old ‘showing up’ another 8 year old after a big hit. 
 

That’s the best explanation I’ve heard, celebrate on the sideline. 

THIS is what's going to corrupt 8 year olds???  Kids go around singing Cardi B WAP songs and Levi getting up in someone's grill is what's going to ruin the next generation?

[reddogblitz]

I think its because they don't want after every play for the tackler or interceptor or whatever to jump up and down and get in the guys face and taunt them.  Its a bad look and low class.  I support them keeping it out of the game.

 

As far as grudge matches go, do you not think week 1 vs Steelers was a grudge match?   What about when we play Baltimore in a few weeks. Do you not think that will be a grudge match?

6 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

The NFL made taunting and celebrations illegal because these things make a certain segment of our population highly uncomfortable.  

 

What "segment of the population" are you referring to?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-twitter-taunting-penalties-titans-seahawks-002508298.html
 

 

NFL Twitter is in agreement: The league's new taunting penalties are awful
 

On Sunday, we watched a player penalized for spinning a football. And flashing the incomplete sign. And clapping. Los Angeles Chargers tight end Jared Cook got called for one over a run-of-the-mill touchdown celebration, but had that called back due to an illegal shift penalty.

 

The worst moment, though, came during the game between the Tennessee Titans and Seattle Seahawks. With the Titans down 30-23 and driving to tie the game, Ryan Tannehill went for a deep pass to A.J. Brown that landed incomplete.

 

Seahawks cornerback D.J. Reed, who was covering Brown, got up, flexed while looking at Brown and walked away (video above). Then he received a 15-yard penalty for taunting, moving the Titans into Seahawks territory.

 

——————

Sound familiar?

[Jauronimo]

2 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

I think its because they don't want after every play for the tackler or interceptor or whatever to jump up and down and get in the guys face and taunt them.  Its a bad look and low class.  I support them keeping it out of the game.

 

As far as grudge matches go, do you not think week 1 vs Steelers was a grudge match?   What about when we play Baltimore in a few weeks. Do you not think that will be a grudge match?

 

What "segment of the population" are you referring to?

The segment of the population prone to getting mortally offended by celebrations or taunting in football games and launching diatribes about a breakdown of the moral fiber of this country.

[BADOLBILZ]

 

 

Aside from perhaps actually winning SB's.......nothing creates stronger fan bonds to a team than the idea that bad officiating or the league office are out to get "us".

 

The league doesn't intentionally set up officials to make bad calls...........but they naturally have a financial disincentive to ever perfect officiating..........a certain amount of 3rd party human error and the subsequent outrage is quite beneficial to the bottom line.   No bias necessary.

 

So rather than ask why any rule is a rule in a game with so many..........maybe ask why your team can't follow the rule or doesn't know how to put the other team in position to violate said rule?

 

[Coach Tuesday]

9 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

The NFL made taunting and celebrations illegal because these things make a certain segment of our population highly uncomfortable.  

If you want confirmation of this, here is what John Mara had to say.

 

You can almost picture Ralph and Mortimer Duke saying these things…

Edited September 20, 2021 by Coach Tuesday

[YoloinOhio]