TE Hollister Released

[Just Joshin']

11 hours ago, QCity said:

If you told me last Spring that the team would sustain no major injuries to key players this offseason and the biggest controversy about the 53-man roster is that we cut our 3rd string TE, I would have said you're dreaming and your expectations are set way too high.

You missed the gunner discussion

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[Hapless Bills Fan]

Beane seemed to feel that Hollister would draw considerable interest on the open market and sign elsewhere "soon"

I wonder if teams are holding back because as a vested veteran, so if he's on the roster opening day his salary is guaranteed?

 

Some writers seem to think the Seasnakes may want him back:

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/gm-report/with-colby-parkinsons-status-up-in-air-jacob-hollister-reunion-could-appeal-to-seahawks

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Second-year tight end Colby Parkinson is currently nursing a foot injury that kept him out of all three preseason games, and his status for Week 1 is still very much up in the air. Seattle has already reportedly waived tight ends Cam Sutton and Ian Bunting, but 2020 undrafted free agent Tyler Mabry is still a possibility to make the active roster if it is determined Parkinson will be unable to go right away.

 

Would the Seahawks prefer Hollister over Mabry? It's certainly possible. Similar to Parkinson, Mabry also missed a good chunk of training camp due to a foot injury, but he was able to make his return before the team's preseason finale against the Chargers this past Saturday. He's still a bit of a project, offering a nice athletic profile with good blocking mechanics, and the team believes there's upside for him as a pass catcher. But if they're unsure he's ready for NFL action right now, there's a pretty good chance they'd be able to successfully sneak him through waivers and onto their practice squad. 

 

In an offense expected to heavily emphasize its tight ends group in its attack, the No. 3 man behind Gerald Everett and Will Dissly may actually get some considerable run in games. Hollister may be better suited to handle that responsibility than Mabry, but he—fully aware that his second stint in Seattle may come to an end as soon as Parkinson is healthy—may not want to return on a short-term basis, only to find himself back out on the open market in a few weeks' time. That, of course, could change if Parkinson lands on one of the physically unable to perform or injured reserve lists to open the season. 

 

The advantage to both Seattle and Hollister is that he's familiar with Wilson. 

They do have a new offense this year under Shane Waldron, so he isn't familiar with that.

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

So, they release Matt Barkley, one of Josh’s best friends, in the offseason.   Then, they bring in his Wyoming buddies, Hollister and Tanner Gentry, but now release them.

 

I hope the ink is dry on that new contract.

 

Josh is still trying to solidify his status as an elite QB.  He hasn't had time yet to cultivate his "inner diva".

 

Josh also seems to make friends easily - he said Mitch Trubisky is already becoming one of his best friends.

 

 

[BigAl2526]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Josh is still trying to solidify his status as an elite QB.  He hasn't had time yet to cultivate his "inner diva".

 

Josh also seems to make friends easily - he said Mitch Trubisky is already becoming one of his best friends.

 

 

Rodgers has long had something of a prickley personality.  I understand he pretty much disowned his family years ago.  Maybe Josh will become more of a diva over time, but I don't know that it's written in stone.  I agree Josh makes friends easily.  That's part of what is making him beloved as teammate by the rest of the team.  I don't know that Aaron Rodgers inspires warm feelings on the part of all his teammates.  Some love him as a leader and for the things he can do as a QB, but Josh gets that kind of admiration AND the warmth of friendship.

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

Rodgers has long had something of a prickley personality.  I understand he pretty much disowned his family years ago.  Maybe Josh will become more of a diva over time, but I don't know that it's written in stone.  I agree Josh makes friends easily.  That's part of what is making him beloved as teammate by the rest of the team.  I don't know that Aaron Rodgers inspires warm feelings on the part of all his teammates.  Some love him as a leader and for the things he can do as a QB, but Josh gets that kind of admiration AND the warmth of friendship.

 

In other words:  Aaron Rodgers is a dick and Josh Allen isn't.

 

I can't see either of those things changing.  Ever.

[Reader]

6 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

In other words:  Aaron Rodgers is a dick and Josh Allen isn't.

 

I can't see either of those things changing.  Ever.

 

I'd add to that another thing I don't see changing is a good working relationship between Josh and McBeane. People can fault Rodgers all they want, but the sentiment of "You didn't take my opinion into account at all when making personal decisions" is understandable. I have to think Beane and McD will be a lot more open and upfront with Josh which in turn should substantially help their relationship.

[BigAl2526]

23 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

In other words:  Aaron Rodgers is a dick and Josh Allen isn't.

 

I can't see either of those things changing.  Ever.

I was trying to be nice, but that's about the size of it.

[unbillievable]

29 minutes ago, Reader said:

 

I'd add to that another thing I don't see changing is a good working relationship between Josh and McBeane. People can fault Rodgers all they want, but the sentiment of "You didn't take my opinion into account at all when making personal decisions" is understandable. I have to think Beane and McD will be a lot more open and upfront with Josh which in turn should substantially help their relationship.

 

...as evidenced by all the guys from Wyoming.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

43 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

In other words:  Aaron Rodgers is a dick and Josh Allen isn't.

 

I can't see either of those things changing.  Ever.

 

I don't want to get into a dick-measuring contest (see what I did? heh)

 

But I think it's plausible, given Josh develops as we all hope and becomes a star in the league for a long time, that at some point he will start to chafe and want more influence, especially if the team around him has talent gaps as the years go on.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't want to get into a dick-measuring contest (see what I did? heh)

 

But I think it's plausible, given Josh develops as we all hope and becomes a star in the league for a long time, that at some point he will start to chafe and want more influence, especially if the team around him has talent gaps as the years go on.

 

Yea there will come a time when Josh wants to have a say in personnel. There always does. One of the reasons Brady left New England was because he didn't like their roster building. He goes to Tampa and they sign his buddies. Manning did the same at the end in Indy and Denver. Rodgers is a dick about it, no doubt. I think he is a bit of a dick generally who sulks when he doesn't get his own way. I doubt Josh becomes that but I can see a day when he starts wanting more of a say. 

[FilthyBeast]

On one hand, I understand why they kept Sweeney assuming it was close between himself and Hollister for the #2 TE job.

 

But the fact remains is that Sweeney has not been able to stay on the field and Hollister is a proven commodity in this league.

 

Just think this is one of those moves that could backfire down the road.

[Virgil]

Hollister signed with the Jaguars. 
 

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Virgil

[BuffaloBillyG]

And Hollister is a Jag now. Great landing g spot for him

[dave mcbride]

6 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Hollister signed with the Jaguars. 
 

 

Kinda fitting that he signed with the JAGs.

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea there will come a time when Josh wants to have a say in personnel. There always does. One of the reasons Brady left New England was because he didn't like their roster building. He goes to Tampa and they sign his buddies. Manning did the same at the end in Indy and Denver. Rodgers is a dick about it, no doubt. I think he is a bit of a dick generally who sulks when he doesn't get his own way. I doubt Josh becomes that but I can see a day when he starts wanting more of a say. 

And when that day comes you give it to him. Josh just strikes me as too down to earth to ever be the prickly premadonna that Aaron is. 

[eball]

13 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Hollister signed with the Jaguars. 
 

 

 

Weapon? 

[Jay_Fixit]

This thread is approaching punter level status.

 

I mean, it’s Jacob ***** Hollister.

[Johnnycage46]

37 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

This thread is approaching punter level status.

 

I mean, it’s Jacob ***** Hollister.

He's the new Duke Williams/Christian Wade.

 

[Arkady Renko]

39 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

He's the new Duke Williams/Christian Wade.

 

 Except he has actually produced in the league some already.    

[Johnnycage46]

11 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said:

 Except he has actually produced in the league some already.    

 

True for sure.  But the reaction to his release has been a little surprising.

[Bangarang]

This is the kind of move that gets coaches fired. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't want to get into a dick-measuring contest (see what I did? heh)

 

But I think it's plausible, given Josh develops as we all hope and becomes a star in the league for a long time, that at some point he will start to chafe and want more influence, especially if the team around him has talent gaps as the years go on.

Don't worry, @Gugny wants no part of that

[The Dean]

12 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

This is the kind of move that gets coaches fired. 

 

😆

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

True for sure.  But the reaction to his release has been a little surprising.

 

It's because the remaining TE's are duds so far.  

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

It's because the remaining TE's are duds so far.  

Exactly, it’s not so much about Hollister as it is for the TE position as a whole!  The weakest position group on the team just got weaker for the sake of keeping two 3rd string QBs on the practice squad.  Got rid of a role player for two players who won’t even dress!  That’s the issue!

[Billy Claude]

I expect Hollister is going on the Jag's 53.   He probably told the Bills he would not accept going on the practice squad so I doubt very much it had anything to do with keeping both Fromm and Webb.

Edited September 3, 2021 by Billy Claude

[Punching Bag]

6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

But I think it's plausible, given Josh develops as we all hope and becomes a star in the league for a long time, that at some point he will start to chafe and want more influence, especially if the team around him has talent gaps as the years go on.

 

Anybody being paid that much can have influence by offering to take a pay cut to get changes/people QB want.

He can even contribute toward stadium - Bills stadium reacting roof named after John Allen's Nuts and Melons.

 

Whenever you are making that high percentage of cap you need to make up for gaps.

 

[Freddie's Dead]

2 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

Exactly, it’s not so much about Hollister as it is for the TE position as a whole!  The weakest position group on the team just got weaker for the sake of keeping two 3rd string QBs on the practice squad.  Got rid of a role player for two players who won’t even dress!  That’s the issue!

 

Exactly.  He outplayed every TE currently on the roster during the preseason.  But we kept Knox, who drops room service passes, Sweeney, who can't stay healthy, and Gilliam, a FB.  Then we sign Quintin Morris to the PS (please tell me how he outplayed Hollister, please), and a Key & Peele All-Star who makes Sweeney look like the picture of health. 

 

What made it worse was the glut of posts saying "Oh, this is just a roster move to get someone on IR, then Hollister will be signed after the PS.  They made a gentlemen's agreement."  Some agreement.  There will come a time this season that we are hurting for a good TE.  Quintin Morris better be it, because everyone else is suspect.    

Edited September 3, 2021 by Freddie's Dead

[NewEra]

I’d really love to see all of Tommy Sweeney reps in practice since he’s been on the Bills.   He really must be doing something right for

him to make the team as the 2nd and last TE.  He’s flashed some solid play but he needs to stay healthy.  

[Wyobills89]

Being a wyoming fan I'm Def bummed Hollister was released. I did see thaddeus moss was cut, he is someone I'd like to check out, was pretty good on that LSU team. I have no idea how his blocking is though.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

Exactly, it’s not so much about Hollister as it is for the TE position as a whole!  The weakest position group on the team just got weaker for the sake of keeping two 3rd string QBs on the practice squad.  Got rid of a role player for two players who won’t even dress!  That’s the issue!

 

You normally make sense, but I'm not following you here.

 

How does keeping two QBs on the practice squad affect our ability to keep Hollister?

 

He wasn't going to sign to the Bills practice squad if he could sign to a 53 man roster somewhere else and see playing time.

[Rochesterfan]

6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You normally make sense, but I'm not following you here.

 

How does keeping two QBs on the practice squad affect our ability to keep Hollister?

 

He wasn't going to sign to the Bills practice squad if he could sign to a 53 man roster somewhere else and see playing time.

 

This exactly - The way Beane talked him at the press conference and the things Beane said on WGR about the cut process - I strongly believe the Bills like Hollister and wanted to put him on the PS, but in discussion with the player and the agent decided he was probably good enough for someone else’s 53 and as a sign of respect - they agreed to cut him early and let him pursue that.

 

I am pretty sure that is where the comment came from by Beane that we are not closing the door and if a spot opens he would be welcomed back.  
 

I think most of us (me included) thought that he would be a quick re-sign to the practice squad, but I think that is part of what makes this a good front office - I think they worked with the player and let him go after a 53 and had a backup plan to bring in another player as needed.