John from Riverside Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Either a better player at the time of pick or picked before us so Beane moved onto another player......and any chances of a UDFA looks like it didnt happen So the question no is.....did Beane consider it a top priority or not. Star is back.....so there is a buffer here.....but past him there does not appear to be a true one tech on this team yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Good thing season doesn’t start until September or we’d be doomed!!! Omg!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I think this team is always looking to upgrade any position they feel they can. They apparently felt there wasn't a 1T worth taking over the specific player they chose with each pick. There will still be options to add a 1T this offseason if they choose. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Either a better player at the time of pick or picked before us so Beane moved onto another player......and any chances of a UDFA looks like it didnt happen So the question no is.....did Beane consider it a top priority or not. Star is back.....so there is a buffer here.....but past him there does not appear to be a true one tech on this team yet. We will see, but with the DEs they drafted - I am wondering if they are going to go smaller, quicker, and attack gaps by formation and worry less about a big 1T tackle. If you fill the gaps and tackle RBs on your way to the QB and you do it right from the snap - it can clog inside lanes and force more outside runs where athletic LBs and Safeties can make tackles. I think Beane was considering larger, quicker DEs with inside ability to be a larger priority. Edited May 2, 2021 by Rochesterfan 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I would still like to see competition there. I don't think we should just assume a 31 year old big man off a year of not playing picks up where he left off and Harrison Phillips (though he had a good December) was pretty atrocious for most of last season. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 The draft was limited in talent. The bills went for good talent when it was their pick. When we are complaining about not drafting a backup we know the roster is strong. Anyway also no te and they did not address DB til the sixth when there was basically UDFA level guys left. Would you really feel great if they used a sixth in a one tech? They have seven roster spots and can sign a guy still. They also went to the afc championship game without a one tech. Not they have Star back. This was not a huge need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Either a better player at the time of pick or picked before us so Beane moved onto another player......and any chances of a UDFA looks like it didnt happen So the question no is.....did Beane consider it a top priority or not. Star is back.....so there is a buffer here.....but past him there does not appear to be a true one tech on this team yet. June 1st cuts still coming 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Was hoping for Khyiris Tonga in the 7th. But he was only 6'4", too small. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 There’s still the June 1st cutdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Was hoping for Khyiris Tonga in the 7th. But he was only 6'4", too small. Did he shrink at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 He did upgrade IDL quite significantly by adding Rousseau and Boogie. 1T will probably be between Star, Oliver, Butler and Phillips. Don’t forget that a few players may shake loose from the tree during preseason cuts. Ertz may still be an option and likely a solid corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Lotulelei and Phillips will be fine this year. That's a plug and play position that will be easy to fill next year if necessary. Not a need. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Beane stays painfully true to his board. And he has plenty of defenders here. He could have drafted 4 punters in a row and people would be saying “the game is all about field position!” Do you feel better now? 😂 1 1 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Lotulelei and Phillips will be fine this year. That's a plug and play position that will be easy to fill next year if necessary. Not a need. If it is so easy to fill, and if the claims of missing Star was such a big loss, then why did they do nothing to address this last season? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Beane stays painfully true to his board. And he has plenty of defenders here. He could have drafted 4 punters in a row and people would be saying “the game is all about field position!” Do you feel better now? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Do you feel better now? 😂 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you feel better now? Yes I’ve had my coffee. But I’ve already had to clean up dog ***** and cat puke this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Yes I’ve had my coffee. But I’ve already had to clean up dog ***** and cat puke this morning Bummer on the animal front, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: Beane stays painfully true to his board. And he has plenty of defenders here. He could have drafted 4 punters in a row and people would be saying “the game is all about field position!” Yeah, why would anyond defend a GM of a team that has gone from 6-10 to 10-6 (playoffs) to 13-3 (one game from Super Bowl). It's hard to defend that. Been there with the pets though, although one of my cats seems to love Brandon Beane (is staring at his press conference as if he were a bird). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, thurst44 said: Yeah, why would anyond defend a GM of a team that has gone from 6-10 to 10-6 (playoffs) to 13-3 (one game from Super Bowl). It's hard to defend that. Been there with the pets though, although one of my cats seems to love Brandon Beane (is staring at his press conference as if he were a bird). I love Beane. I think he’s the best GM in the league. But he’s not perfect. We don’t have to love everything he does. I’m just saying he should be open to criticism. I didn’t agree with all the draft picks. But it’s like if you say that then it’s “how dare you!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I believe once the draft madness has settled they will be hoping some veterans at 1T and CB shake loose. Hell, they may even sign Richard Sherman at CB they seem to like guys drivin down the street with a donut tire on lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 The draft was poor for defensive tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, thurst44 said: Yeah, why would anyond defend a GM of a team that has gone from 6-10 to 10-6 (playoffs) to 13-3 (one game from Super Bowl). It's hard to defend that. Been there with the pets though, although one of my cats seems to love Brandon Beane (is staring at his press conference as if he were a bird). 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, BTB said: If it is so easy to fill, and if the claims of missing Star was such a big loss, then why did they do nothing to address this last season? I remember it being mentioned that a lot of teams struggled with this position at times last year because big DL were some of the highest opt out numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Victory Formation said: He did upgrade IDL quite significantly by adding Rousseau and Boogie. 1T will probably be between Star, Oliver, Butler and Phillips. Don’t forget that a few players may shake loose from the tree during preseason cuts. Ertz may still be an option and likely a solid corner. I don’t want to see Oliver and 1Tech put in the same sentence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slippery Rubber Mats Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: Beane stays painfully true to his board. And he has plenty of defenders here. He could have drafted 4 punters in a row and people would be saying “the game is all about field position!” REACT TO ME lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tuel Time said: REACT TO ME lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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machine gun kelly Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Victory Formation said: He did upgrade IDL quite significantly by adding Rousseau and Boogie. 1T will probably be between Star, Oliver, Butler and Phillips. Don’t forget that a few players may shake loose from the tree during preseason cuts. Ertz may still be an option and likely a solid corner. The only 1T DT you mentioned above is Star. H. Phillips, Oliver, and Butler are 3T. Maybe as a backup Philips. Obviously who was there was not as good according to Beane than the guys we picked. The talent coming out next year will be much more deep so don’t be surprised if this could be our 1st rd. Pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: Beane stays painfully true to his board. And he has plenty of defenders here. He could have drafted 4 punters in a row and people would be saying “the game is all about field position!” I'd rather the GM stick to his board than reach for need. I've seen enough of that with guys like Maybin, John McCargo and Travares Tillman over the years. Edited May 2, 2021 by Brandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 7 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Either a better player at the time of pick or picked before us so Beane moved onto another player......and any chances of a UDFA looks like it didnt happen So the question no is.....did Beane consider it a top priority or not. Star is back.....so there is a buffer here.....but past him there does not appear to be a true one tech on this team yet. Harrison Phillips is a 1T 10 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: The only 1T DT you mentioned above is Star. H. Phillips, Oliver, and Butler are 3T. Maybe as a backup Philips. Obviously who was there was not as good according to Beane than the guys we picked. The talent coming out next year will be much more deep so don’t be surprised if this could be our 1st rd. Pick. Why do you think Harrison Phillips is a 3T? In 2019 he was alternating snaps at 1T with Star before he got hurt 2020 was a bit different because the Bills were doing "1T by committee" and guys were lining up all over the place, but I don't think Phillips is a 3T by natural position. You may be confusing him with talk of "Phillips at 3T" last season, which was Jordan Phillips not Harry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Harrison Phillips is a 1T Too small he just doesn’t block enough sunToo small he just doesn’t block enough sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Brandon said: I'd rather the GM stick to his board than reach for need. I've seen enough of that will guys like Maybin, John McCargo and Travares Tillman over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, BTB said: If it is so easy to fill, and if the claims of missing Star was such a big loss, then why did they do nothing to address this last season? To be fair, they should have. There were a couple options available. I'd like to see a backup 1tech added because I can't stand seeing Oliver (who I'm higher on than some) out of position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Too small he just doesn’t block enough sun Nevertheless, it is so. Star is listed as 6'2", 315 and probably plays about 20 lbs heavier than that, or even more but that may not be a good thing. Phillips is listed as 6'3", 307. He said in an interview after his 2019 injury that he was losing a bit of weight from 320 while he recovered. He visibly got bigger during the 2020 season. 1T and 3T are not wholly about size. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Nevertheless, it is so. Star is listed as 6'2", 315 and probably plays about 20 lbs heavier than that Phillips is listed as 6'3", 307. He said in an interview after his 2019 injury that he was losing a bit of weight from 320 while he recovered. He visibly got bigger during the 2020 season. 1T and 3T are not wholly about size. Agree. As proven by Jordan Phillips who was a big man but much better at the 3T than the 1T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 5 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: I think this team is always looking to upgrade any position they feel they can. They apparently felt there wasn't a 1T worth taking over the specific player they chose with each pick. There will still be options to add a 1T this offseason if they choose. I think there wasn't someone they liked near where they picked, and that the plan is indeed to look for a vet who gets cut. 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. As proven by Jordan Phillips who was a big man but much better at the 3T than the 1T. Vernon Butler, same, though I think the Bills view him as their "break glass in emergency" 1T guy now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Vernon Butler, same, though I think the Bills view him as their "break glass in emergency" 1T guy now. Yea Butler is a bit more of an either/or guy than Jordan but again I agree he is a more natural fit at 3T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Yea Butler is a bit more of an either/or guy than Jordan but again I agree he is a more natural fit at 3T. He clearly didn't want to be there at the start of the season, but did better as the season went on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: He clearly didn't want to be there at the start of the season, but did better as the season went on. Agreed. They started the season with mainly him and Harrison rotating at the 1T, but when that wasn't working went to Jefferson and even for that strange run in the middle Ed taking more 1T work despite being the two smaller DTs (and Zimmer who is also a smaller guy) and then ended up back where they started with Harrison and Butler but with more success. I do think after losing Star having limited camp and pre-season probably meant they didn't really get chance to rep their alternatives as much as they would ordinarily in a normal year if, for instance, Star had got hurt at the start of camp. They felt like they were adjusting on the fly a lot early on. By the end of the year they had a workable formula though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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