Ty Dunne: Motor can lift Bills to super bowl

[BillsMafi$]

 

 

https://www.golongtd.com/p/what-fuels-motor-devin-singletary

Edited April 27, 2021 by BillsMafi$

[Don Otreply]

Josh, got way better, no reason Devon can’t get better himself! 

Edited April 27, 2021 by Don Otreply

[McBean]

Devon seems like a good kid but he’s so “meh” it hurts. Can’t catch, not explosive, so slooooow..

 

We need Harris or ETN to go over the top on offense.

 

I always think back to how KC mauled us in Buffalo last year by just handing the ball off.

 

Defenses would have to focus on Harris or ETN which leads to Allen cooking all day. 
 

We need our Thurman Thomas folks. Get it through your heads.

 

Harris or ETN! Make it happen BBB

[The Jokeman]

17 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

 

https://www.golongtd.com/p/what-fuels-motor-devin-singletary

Devin has his moments, he just doesn't have the breakaway speed to be elite. I compare him to a James White in that respect but maybe not as good as catching the ball. 

[Charles Romes]

I’m glad he agonizes over the drop. That’s all I’ll remember about that game and Singletary 25 years from now. It’s a scar that will never heal. 

[McBean]

Just now, Charles Romes said:

I’m glad he agonizes over the drop. That’s all I’ll remember about that game and Singletary 25 years from now. It’s a scar that will never heal. 

My exact thoughts.

 

I told my buddies when it happened shortly afterwards to get Harris or ETN ASAP.

 

We have to get more balanced on offense and have a serious threat in the backfield. It sets up play action too.

 

It’s only going to help Josh more.

 

I’m one of the few but I would love a trade up for Harris. This team is ready to win a super bowl now. You’re not going to stop KC on defense. You gotta out score them bottom line.

[H2o]

Dunne must not have heard we're trading up in the 1st to take Etienne. 

[SCBills]

I'll be honest, I'd almost rather give a late round pick a shot to platoon with Moss/Breida after what I saw from Singletary last year.   

[Virgil]

14 minutes ago, McBean said:

Devon seems like a good kid but he’s so “meh” it hurts. Can’t catch, not explosive, so slooooow..

 

We need Harris or ETN to go over the top on offense.

 

I always think back to how KC mauled us in Buffalo last year by just handing the ball off.

 

Defenses would have to focus on Harris or ETN which leads to Allen cooking all day. 
 

We need our Thurman Thomas folks. Get it through your heads.

 

Harris or ETN! Make it happen BBB

Harris isn’t fast.  Unless I’m missing something. 

[StHustle]

Singletary showed enough his rookie year to get another chance. He was never taught the correct way to run and do a bunch if other stuff until now, according to that article at least. I think he is gonna surprise a bunch of folks this year.

[GunnerBill]

18 minutes ago, McBean said:

Devon seems like a good kid but he’s so “meh” it hurts. Can’t catch, not explosive, so slooooow..

 

 

I agree with this 

[Frat-Train]

Breida...   God I hope he regains some form because he could LITERALLY be what this offense has lacked for so long.

[Brennan Huff]

His rookie year he showed some moves that were elite. He could make people miss and look stupid. I didn’t see that last year. He has it in him he just needs to put it all together. If Beane decides to go running back in the first round then he might not get that chance. Also, I didn’t read the article...

[ProcessAccepted]

26 minutes ago, McBean said:

We need our Thurman Thomas folks.

      ^^^ This

[Don Otreply]

So all of you believe a player can’t get better at his craft? By those standards no one gets better, which we all know is patently false. You all are the shinny new toy distracted from reality, and appear to have no knowledge of what actually transpired with the O line this past season or remember what Beane said in his season end PC, but whatever..., 

[Coach Tuesday]

That article is nice and all but it just assumes its conclusion.  He's going to get the Bills to the Super Bowl because he doesn't shy away from the drop that might've cost the Bills a chance at the Super Bowl?  (Never mind Mahomes' 75% completion percentage rout?!)  I mean great, but what is he doing to improve his game besides watching videos of his screwup?  And by the way he has done that before - Motor has a knack for fumbling or dropping the ball at critical moments in critical games.  Is he speed training?  Working with the JUGS machine?  Diving into the X's and O's of the Bills' blocking schemes?

 

Simply owning a mistake doesn't guarantee you'll get better.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

24 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

I’m glad he agonizes over the drop. That’s all I’ll remember about that game and Singletary 25 years from now. It’s a scar that will never heal. 

Wow. i love the over-dramatization of that drop. He catches it and we all know he gets like 15-20 yards at most. Bills fans love to live in the imaginary world where he easily takes that swing pass 60 yards for a TD and that is the game-changing play. That was never going to happen. we had bigger problems in that game. 

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, Don Otreply said:

So all of you believe a player can’t get better at his craft? By those standards no one gets better, which we all know is patently false. You all are the shinny new toy distracted from reality, and appear to have no knowledge of what actually transpired with the O line this past season or remember what Beane said in his season end PC, but whatever..., 

 

Sure he can get better.  BUT TELL US WHAT HE'S DOING TO GET BETTER (Dunne, not you).  That article is just a puff piece.

[HeHateMe]

Motor is broken

[Brennan Huff]

5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Wow. i love the over-dramatization of that drop. He catches it and we all know he gets like 15-20 yards at most. Bills fans love to live in the imaginary world where he easily takes that swing pass 60 yards for a TD and that is the game-changing play. That was never going to happen. we had bigger problems in that game. 

If he catches that pass we go on to win the Super Bowl for the next 3 years

[Greg S]

I wouldn't mind an upgrade at RB and another weapon on offense but priority #1 in getting past KC is improving the pass rush otherwise Mahomes will kill the Bills D again.

[Don Otreply]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Sure he can get better.  BUT TELL US WHAT HE'S DOING TO GET BETTER (Dunne, not you).  That article is just a puff piece.

Of course it’s a puff piece, and so was every piece about Josh training to get better, and ya know what? Josh got way f ing better, and Devon can get better as well, he is doing the same types of things but only for a running back that Josh did as a QB to get better, sounds like you all poo poo anyone working on technique and execution of their craft..., it’s what all the good players do, every season, but whatever..., 

[Canadian Bills Fan]

I respectfully disagree 

[Richard Noggin]

19 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

That article is nice and all but it just assumes its conclusion.  He's going to get the Bills to the Super Bowl because he doesn't shy away from the drop that might've cost the Bills a chance at the Super Bowl?  (Never mind Mahomes' 75% completion percentage rout?!)  I mean great, but what is he doing to improve his game besides watching videos of his screwup?  And by the way he has done that before - Motor has a knack for fumbling or dropping the ball at critical moments in critical games.  Is he speed training?  Working with the JUGS machine?  Diving into the X's and O's of the Bills' blocking schemes?

 

Simply owning a mistake doesn't guarantee you'll get better.

Reading the article can clear up all your questions.

[SCBills]

11 minutes ago, Greg S said:

I wouldn't mind an upgrade at RB and another weapon on offense but priority #1 in getting past KC is improving the pass rush otherwise Mahomes will kill the Bills D again.

 

Frazier/McDermott and their Defensive Game plan against KC were just as much to blame.  

 

Game 1:  Absolutely bludgeoned on the ground while we played passive to hoping to keep it close and steal the game in the end.

 

Game 2:  Romo begs us to play physical with Kelce and Hill, yet we give them free release all game.  Tampa Bay, two weeks later, chips Kelce on every route. 

[klos63]

48 minutes ago, McBean said:

Devon seems like a good kid but he’s so “meh” it hurts. Can’t catch, not explosive, so slooooow..

 

We need Harris or ETN to go over the top on offense.

 

I always think back to how KC mauled us in Buffalo last year by just handing the ball off.

 

Defenses would have to focus on Harris or ETN which leads to Allen cooking all day. 
 

We need our Thurman Thomas folks. Get it through your heads.

 

Harris or ETN! Make it happen BBB

Because our defense isn't good enough, which is why you focus the draft on defense.

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, Richard Noggin said:

Reading the article can clear up all your questions.

 

I read the article.  Didn't answer any of my questions.  He watches the clip.  Great, put "Super Bowl - 2022" in ink.

[DCOrange]

10 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

His rookie year he showed some moves that were elite. He could make people miss and look stupid. I didn’t see that last year. He has it in him he just needs to put it all together. If Beane decides to go running back in the first round then he might not get that chance. Also, I didn’t read the article...

I would agree he just didn't pass the eye test this year after passing as a rookie. A look at some related numbers (league ranking in parentheses) is a bit of a mixed bag. He's been mostly above average as a runner across both seasons

 

Yards After Contact per Attempt:

2019: 3.00 (21)

2020: 3.17 (14)

 

Tackles Avoided per Attempt:

2019: 0.24 (7)

2020: 0.21 (9)

 

Rush Yards over Expected per Attempt:

2019: 0.43 (17)

2020: 0.29 (22)

 

The issue continues to be that he struggles as a pass blocker and receiver.

 

Drop % (minimum of 20 targets for a RB)

2019: 12.8% (5)

2020: 10.6% (10)

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 

I read the article.  Didn't answer any of my questions.  He watches the clip.  Great, put "Super Bowl - 2022" in ink.

I think you stopped reading before the end. The article details his new training regimen at Per4orm (some training facility), focused on burst and decisiveness. I'm not saying he'll be magically transformed, but there IS substance to the article.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

40 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Harris isn’t fast.  Unless I’m missing something. 

 

This. 

 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/travis-etienne-to-buffalo-picking-up-steam-among-national-nfl-analysts/article_b34848a8-a6d4-11eb-8bb0-5f9c69213ef1.html

 

Quote

Etienne doesn’t have the speed of some of the fleet backs or wideouts who run Jet sweeps (he’s a 4.44 guy), but the book on him is he cuts and fakes at top speed, which can make up for the fact that he has good but not transcendent speed.

 

Now I grant that he's faster than Moss or Singletary, but if the gap for the Bills is lack of a home-run hitter with break-away speed, does Etienne really fill the Bill(s) so to speak?  "Kamara-like" is not "Kamara".  "McCaffrey-like" is not "McCaffrey"

 

1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

 

https://www.golongtd.com/p/what-fuels-motor-devin-singletary

 

Can someone summarize the article and add a couple of quotes? 

 

It might make the ensuing discussion better than people just putting their own thought in the thread.

[Richard Noggin]

I just really hope the Bills don't trade up in Rd 1 for a RB. Etienne is not a transcendent talent. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

21 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:

If he catches that pass we go on to win the Super Bowl for the next 3 years

 

I swear-- some people around here actually believe that. This isn't like the ronnie harmon drop--in the end zone. This was a swing pass, 60 yards from the endzone, with defenders in sight!! Yet, we hear, "I hate Singletary for dropping that oh so critical swing pass that would have altered my entire future!" 

[Greg S]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Frazier/McDermott and their Defensive Game plan against KC were just as much to blame.  

 

Game 1:  Absolutely bludgeoned on the ground while we played passive to hoping to keep it close and steal the game in the end.

 

Game 2:  Romo begs us to play physical with Kelce and Hill, yet we give them free release all game.  Tampa Bay, two weeks later, chips Kelce on every route. 

 

True. Both game plans on D were awful. I keep thinking back to the Super Bowl and what TB did and that is what I hope the Bills can build. I know its easier said than done but the Bills need to improve the front 4 to have a chance against KC. 

[Bangarang]

Not unless he got much faster. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

34 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Sure he can get better.  BUT TELL US WHAT HE'S DOING TO GET BETTER (Dunne, not you).  That article is just a puff piece.

 

OK, now I've read the article, and this response just says you clearly have not or if you took a look, you didn't make it past about halfway where Dunne starts talking about the training Motor is doing this off-season that's different.

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

OK, now I've read the article, and this response just says you clearly have not or if you took a look, you didn't make it past about halfway where Dunne starts talking about the training Motor is doing this off-season that's different.

 

I did read that.  I would like more information.  Is the goal to be faster?  Is that what he thinks the "missing element" is?  How does that relate to his drop?  Does he want to become a better third-down back to make it harder for them to take him off the field in passing downs?  

[Dr. K]

48 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

That article is nice and all but it just assumes its conclusion.  He's going to get the Bills to the Super Bowl because he doesn't shy away from the drop that might've cost the Bills a chance at the Super Bowl?  (Never mind Mahomes' 75% completion percentage rout?!)  I mean great, but what is he doing to improve his game besides watching videos of his screwup?  And by the way he has done that before - Motor has a knack for fumbling or dropping the ball at critical moments in critical games.  Is he speed training?  Working with the JUGS machine?  Diving into the X's and O's of the Bills' blocking schemes?

 

Simply owning a mistake doesn't guarantee you'll get better.

Please document all these fumbles and drops "at critical moments in critical games" Singletary has made. The biggest running back fumble I remember last year was Moss fumbling coming out of the end zone against SF.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Dr. K

[Mr. WEO]

45 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Of course it’s a puff piece, and so was every piece about Josh training to get better, and ya know what? Josh got way f ing better, and Devon can get better as well, he is doing the same types of things but only for a running back that Josh did as a QB to get better, sounds like you all poo poo anyone working on technique and execution of their craft..., it’s what all the good players do, every season, but whatever..., 

 

 

Josh is a rare athlete.  Singletary isn't.

 

If players just needed to work on their technique in the NFL, the league wouldn't endlessly be churning through day 1 picks year after year....

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

Josh, got way better, no reason Devon can’t!

Completely different players.

 

Josh going into the league was so raw and had a massive ceiling. .

 

Singletary is extremely limited in his game and his ceiling is way lower. It's very possible he's already at his ceiling, as RB historically speaking is the easiest transition from college to the NFL 

Edited April 27, 2021 by BillsFan130

[Logic]

I don’t know about anyone else, but I sure don’t look back at that Chiefs game and think “Devin Singletary’s drop is why we lost!”

 

The Chiefs were the better team that day, and it couldn’t have been any clearer — drop or no drop.