McShay- Bills trying to move up above 23 for Etienne

[purple haze]

24 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said:

 

I'm sure a lot of Bills fans will wail and moan, weep and gnash their teeth.

 

Meanwhile, Beane will be cracking a smile and a cold one while he chuckles, knowing that ultimate player value is tied to positional value, and that--due to average length of career, cost of positional re-signing after rookie contract, and ability to find Kamara-esque RBs at Kamara-esque spots in the draft (3rd round)--an RB's positional value is low. The top positional values (based on post-rookie contracts) are QB (we are not taking one in the 1st), DE/Edge, and CB. Look at the price tags of 2nd contracts... Beane looks at contracts. 

 

Brieda lit the league on fire with San Fran, is more electric (and NFL proven) than ETN, and Beane signed him for something south of 3 mil (after the Fish were allergic to using him, for whatever reason).

 

Am I completely insane, or does nobody see any of this?

 

Or is everyone here trying to blow smoke FOR Beane? (I mean, that's cool if you all are, but it's a little weird)...

 

Okay, #endrant

 

(And not meaning to take it out on you, @PromoTheRobot; I made it 11 pages before melting down over all the RB in the 1st inanity. Straw that broke the camel's back, my friend.)

All RB’s aren’t the same.  
 

Brieda is a good back up RB in the league on his third team.  For a reason.  

 

if Beane did take Etienne he thinks of him as a more impactful player than what he has or what he can get later in the draft. 
 

the fact that this “rumor” has caught on with several national media people makes me doubt its Etienne they’re after though.  They went after Lev Bell when he was available.   Harris might be the one Beane wants.  

 

 

[Nelius]

I don't hate the pick at all if he falls in Beane's lap at 30 but I'm not understanding where the idea that the Bills will trade up that many spots comes from. Awful take.

[GunnerBill]

A trade up for a running back.... ugh. 

 

I do think Etienne is very much in play for Buffalo though. Beane pretty much told us he was last week.

[hjnick]

I hope 3 RB's go before buffalo picks and 6 QBs...

[Aussie Joe]

17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

A trade up for a running back.... ugh. 

 

I do think Etienne is very much in play for Buffalo though. Beane pretty much told us he was last week.

He also told us he was trading up, trading back and taking someone at 30 as well...

[YoloinOhio]

9 hours ago, DJB said:

 

 

What’s allbright talking about. He wasn’t right about the bills pick the last two years. 2020 he had epenesa to the pats at 23 and 2019 he had the Bills taking Christian Wilkins. 

[GunnerBill]

19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

What’s allbright talking about. He wasn’t right about the bills pick the last two years. 2020 he had epenesa to the pats at 23 and 2019 he had the Bills taking Christian Wilkins. 

 

See I really hate that. If you are in the draft business you will get more mock picks wrong than right and while you hope to get more talent evaluations right than wrong you will always have misses. Gotta own the misses as well as the hits.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

See I really hate that. If you are in the draft business you will get more mock picks wrong than right and while you hope to get more talent evaluations right than wrong you will always have misses. Gotta own the misses as well as the hits.

Yeah I’m not bashing that he didn’t nail the picks but he’s out there crowing that he knew what the bills were doing the last five years and therefore how dare anyone question that he knows this year. A lot of hubris. 

[Rochesterfan]

35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

What’s allbright talking about. He wasn’t right about the bills pick the last two years. 2020 he had epenesa to the pats at 23 and 2019 he had the Bills taking Christian Wilkins. 

Allbright stinks, but when he throws enough crap at the wall some of it sticks.  I think he has linked the Bills to about 35 different prospects - one is bound to be right.

 

He has not been accurate with anything Bills related and just talks a big game with nothing to back it up.

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

Allbright stinks, but when he throws enough crap at the wall some of it sticks.  I think he has linked the Bills to about 35 different prospects - one is bound to be right.

 

He has not been accurate with anything Bills related and just talks a big game with nothing to back it up.

He was right about Allen, and I give him credit for that, but if I recall that was not unique, many folks pegged that one and wasn’t exactly going out on a limb 

[colin]

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Todds, Ranked:

1. Todd the neighbor from Christmas Vacation

2. Willis (Todd Bridges)

3. Todd packer from The Office

4. Todd Chrisley (Chrisley knows Best)

5. Todd the son from Wedding Crashers 

6. 

 

 

 

good list, but wedding crashers todd continues to be woefully underrated.  advanced metrics show that his unique painting skills should have him no lower than 3rd on your list, and i'd argue he's top 2.

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He was right about Allen, and I give him credit for that, but if I recall that was not unique, many folks pegged that one and wasn’t exactly going out on a limb 

 

I was right about Shaq..... and I said in 2019 I thought if Oliver was there he would be the pick (and had him as the pick in version 1) but ended up changing it in my final version. In 2018 my final mock said "the Bills will pick one of the two Joshes" but then I went for right Josh over wrong Josh which has ended up being wrong Josh over right Josh. If you follow me 😛.

[BigBuff423]

12 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Again, the five guys they expect to start this year on the OL played not one single snap together last year. There really is a very legit reason to blame things mostly on the OL and yet to re-sign the guys they re-signed.

 

Agreed....and if my point inferred otherwise, then that was my mistake. I'm not insinuating I was making the same point, but more that Offensive Line - a more specifically the players individually - might not have been as big an issue for the running game as some of us initially believed. If the report is true, actions speak louder than words and Beane's actions are indicating he wants a RB that is a difference maker. And you can count me among the Moss believers as well.

11 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

That's like saying you can't draft the next Tom Brady in the 1st because the original Tom Brady went in the 6th round.

 

And I wasn't indicating the Bills' shouldn't Draft Etienne or anyone else for that matter. I'm fully on board with whomever Beane Drafts because as I've stated in other places since his first full year in Buffalo, I trust Beane, his FO AND McD to make good player decisions beginning with the Draft. If I gave you any other impression, then that was my miscommunication. 

[ROCBillsBeliever]

6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We lack talent at RB. Also Zach Moss suffered a serious injury before proving he can handle the load. Brieda isn't anything more than a reserve RB with speed. SF has a great system for RB'S. Hard to feel confident he can recreate that success here. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd agree that we lack elite talent at RB, but the stable of Singletary, Moss, and Brieda gives you a solid swiss army knife, while allowing you to have fresh legs later in games. It's the stable of backs that New England employed for decades, and if it was good enough for them to demolish the NFL for 20 years, then I have a feeling that approach to building an RB room may not be fool's gold.

 

Moss injury:

 

Kyle Trimble (An actual Doctor of Physical Therapy, and not just an message board cred-seeker or like-collector - https://bangedupbills.com/about/), from Banged Up Bills, reported that just after the injury, Moss was considering undergoing Tightrope Surgery (https://bangedupbills.com/tag/zack-moss/), one known to accelerate the recovery process. If you're interested in the science, this surgery explained the surgery and outlined in the decidedly non-sportfan-tinged Northwell Health article linked, below:

 

https://www.northwell.edu/orthopaedic-institute/news/tightrope-surgery-accelerates-recovery-from-high-ankle-sprains

 

Prior to the surgery, Trimble explained that: "If he does receive this procedure, there is a chance that he could rehabilitate quicker, but this won’t be known unless it is reported."

 

Moss himself reported the surgery was a success, and he was up and walking in a boot, back on March 8th (on his Instagram):

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMLcu2osEcP/

 

The Buffalo News reported the surgery was successful, as well:

 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/bills-running-back-zack-moss-undergoes-ankle-surgery/article_36c66d1e-5aa8-11eb-8011-1fdc793619a2.html

 

"Zach Moss had minor surgery on his injured left ankle Tuesday".

 

And, even at the time of the injury, it was reported that Moss avoided a "major injury" (per his agent; from the Buffalo News article): 

 

"At the time, his agent, Jamal Tooson, said Moss had avoided "major injury." Moss is expected to make a full recovery and be ready for offseason workouts."

 

To Brieda, yeah: we needed speed, and if you're denying he's fast, well... Not sure what to say. Proof is in the pudding. The guy has broken 22 mph on the field, and he isn't here to be a bellcow.

 

I agree: SF has a great system for RB's, and it's better than ours. When you have an-oft broken Jimmy G flippin' pancackes to RB's, instead of The Firebaugh Kid cannoning missiles all over kingdom come, you might NEED that kind of an RB system to win. That's not our team construction, thanks to the QB we have, so recreating San Fran's RB stable is not our modus operandi. 

 

Next clay pidgeon?

 

 

 

[ExWNYer]

45 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Yeah I’m not bashing that he didn’t nail the picks but he’s out there crowing that he knew what the bills were doing the last five years and therefore how dare anyone question that he knows this year. A lot of hubris. 

 

So 'Twatter' caught someone in a lie? What a shock. 😉

 

If it didn't come from that 'fountain of knowledge', Todd McShart, I'm not buying it. 

[colin]

trading up for etn or some rb is worth it if the guy is some kind of electric gets off the bus breaking ankles talent.  i really don't know if that's the case or not.

 

if we bundle te/wr/rb into "playmakers" then if the top of the prior two positions are gone at pick 30, it does make sense for us to take the best playmaker on the board, be he RB or owthersie.

 

the next thing, and this is where i wonder if beane gets too fixated on one guy and misses this sometimes, is the relative value of who is left.  if you see a starting solid cb2 at 30, even tho he's the 3rd or 4th guy at his position being drafted, and the fall off is big after him, and like rb 5 is close to rb 3 or whatever in the draft, then obv you jump all over the cb.  

 

it wouldn't shock me if they think the 4th-8th edge and cb are close together, but the top rb or top 2 rb are head and shoulders above and they grab one of them.

 

i agree with what was said here earlier, if they actually trade up for an rb he basically has to be a lights out game changer that is gonna put us over the top.  kinda big ask.

[Thurman#1]

12 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Ford has a lot to prove. Even when healthy last season he was pretty meh inside, so I'm not sure why getting him back healthy is "pretty big".... not even sure he's a starter next season. 

 

 

Fair enough. You can't be sure. 10 - 20% chance he doesn't start.

 

But it's by far the most likely thing.

 

And yeah he was pretty meh inside. He spent the whole year before at tackle. Then the year they want to move him inside, there's no real off-season, and then beyond that in week two he gets switched from left to right guard, which is a massively difficult thing to do, more difficult than going tackle to guard. If he hadn't gotten injured, late in the year it would have been pretty reasonable to start expecting him to really start to look at home.

 

Under the circumstances, though, it made no sense. It was a terrible situation. You're right, it's no sure thing, but he's likelier than not to make some major steps upwards.

[ROCBillsBeliever]

6 hours ago, purple haze said:

All RB’s aren’t the same.  
 

Brieda is a good back up RB in the league on his third team.  For a reason.  

 

if Beane did take Etienne he thinks of him as a more impactful player than what he has or what he can get later in the draft. 
 

the fact that this “rumor” has caught on with several national media people makes me doubt its Etienne they’re after though.  They went after Lev Bell when he was available.   Harris might be the one Beane wants.  

 

 

 

True, and true to the first two points, but I'm not concerned that Beane, McDermott, or Daboll envision Brieda as anything more than a change-of-pace backup. I don't think we would have got him on the bargain-basement contract we landed him on, if Brieda, his agent, or the NFL thought otherwise.

 

Yeah, I'd agree, but I also think Beane understands and incorporates long-term value into impact. An impact player for 5 years, that you replace after that doesn't jive with the roster-building that Beane has tended to show with his tendencies in early-round picks. Look at the length of leash Knox and Singletary have had. Think about how Dawkins had that rough, rough 2nd year (we all forget that, and granted, it was because there were steaming piles of decaying poo on our line, around him, that year). Even Zay hung around well past his welcome. I've witnessed Beane giving players a chance, and hoping for a long-term stay in Buffalo, especially with our earlier picks. 

 

Possibly, but rumors this time of year always make me skeptical. We'll see. 

[Rochesterfan]

26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He was right about Allen, and I give him credit for that, but if I recall that was not unique, many folks pegged that one and wasn’t exactly going out on a limb 

 

Totally agree - it also was the way the board looked.  He talked about the Bills liking Allen and Darnold and that was correct, but many people started to connect those dots once the Jets moved to 3.

 

He did not throw the Rosen or Jackson model up there - he was adamant that it was Allen - but then he also pushed the Antonio Brown trade as done when it wasn’t and he ended up wrong about that also.

[BigBuff423]

One other thing: let's not forget where both McD and Beane came from....Carolina. Where they had 2 very good, very productive RBs in Stewart and Williams. They used one as their primary but the other got quite a number of touches and was a different type of back. They were successful utilizing that type of personnel and they had Cam. Josh is already a far better QB, but having two backs that complement each other is not a bad thing when based on previous Drafts and FA, the FO has done well to add depth at nearly every other position, including the most difficult one: QB. JMO

[Thurman#1]

18 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said:

 

Agreed....and if my point inferred otherwise, then that was my mistake. I'm not insinuating I was making the same point, but more that Offensive Line - a more specifically the players individually - might not have been as big an issue for the running game as some of us initially believed. If the report is true, actions speak louder than words and Beane's actions are indicating he wants a RB that is a difference maker. And you can count me among the Moss believers as well.

 

And I wasn't indicating the Bills' shouldn't Draft Etienne or anyone else for that matter. I'm fully on board with whomever Beane Drafts because as I've stated in other places since his first full year in Buffalo, I trust Beane, his FO AND McD to make good player decisions beginning with the Draft. If I gave you any other impression, then that was my miscommunication. 

 

 

Fair enough. I think it's more the OL than the RBs, but we'll see.

 

IMO, you can't call what happened here with McShea's rumor as an "action." It's a rumor, perhaps even a smokescreen. Might be true, but IMO it doesn't make sense for a team that's calling around about a trade-up to tell everyone who they want to pick. That's just not something that Beane would be likely to do. I can imagine him calling around about a possible trade-up, and word about that getting around from the other teams. But not that he'd reveal who he was targeting.

 

Like you, I trust Beane. He makes mistakes, as does everyone, but his methods are just plain smart and state-of-the-art. That's what you want out of your personnel guys.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Thurman#1

[Royale with Cheese]

I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up to the Etienne pick.  I never want a RB in the first and still don't....but for whatever reason I seem okay right now if this is the pick.

[BigBuff423]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up to the Etienne pick.  I never want a RB in the first and still don't....but for whatever reason I seem okay right now if this is the pick.

 

It's the "Beane Effect"....

[ExWNYer]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up to the Etienne pick.  I never want a RB in the first and still don't....but for whatever reason I seem okay right now if this is the pick.

 

It's all that day drinking. Hang on and the feeling will pass.

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up to the Etienne pick.  I never want a RB in the first and still don't....but for whatever reason I seem okay right now if this is the pick.

There is a lot to like about the player and adding an explosive playmaker to the offense. I think people are just hung up on the perceived value at 30 or potentially higher and overall draft assets used on the RB position 

[CapeBreton]

10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up to the Etienne pick.  I never want a RB in the first and still don't....but for whatever reason I seem okay right now if this is the pick.

 

I am not a huge fan of Ettienne but won't argue if he's the pick, I just really hope we don't trade up for him. I love me some Najee Harris but he'll be gone. I also like Javonte Williams but he's likely gone between our first and second pick so kind of no mans land for us. 

 

I also don't mind taking an RB in the first two rounds of the draft, this is where the majority of good RBs get drafted. Everyone seems to think that you can pick an RB wherever but most of the guys drafted late are pretty terrible. You get the odd Austin Ekeler, James Robinson, Chris Carson late or as a UDFA but those are rare finds.

[FireChans]

11 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:

 

I am not a huge fan of Ettienne but won't argue if he's the pick, I just really hope we don't trade up for him. I love me some Najee Harris but he'll be gone. I also like Javonte Williams but he's likely gone between our first and second pick so kind of no mans land for us. 

 

I also don't mind taking an RB in the first two rounds of the draft, this is where the majority of good RBs get drafted. Everyone seems to think that you can pick an RB wherever but most of the guys drafted late are pretty terrible. You get the odd Austin Ekeler, James Robinson, Chris Carson late or as a UDFA but those are rare finds.

 
It’s not that you can pick RBs anywhere, it’s that a solid RB in the fifth is better than a good one in the first. RB value stinks out loud.

Edited April 27, 2021 by FireChans

[DJB]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

What’s allbright talking about. He wasn’t right about the bills pick the last two years. 2020 he had epenesa to the pats at 23 and 2019 he had the Bills taking Christian Wilkins. 

 

I find him to be quite arrogant and rude truthfully. 

[ExWNYer]

8 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:

I also don't mind taking an RB in the first two rounds of the draft, this is where the majority of good RBs get drafted. Everyone seems to think that you can pick an RB wherever but most of the guys drafted late are pretty terrible. You get the odd Austin Ekeler, James Robinson, Chris Carson late or as a UDFA but those are rare finds.

 

This is probably recency bias on your part because that statement is absolutely a false narrative. It's not rare to find a good RB outside of the 1st or 2nd Round. Using your Chris Carson reference, that 2017 draft alone is littered with several good choices in Round 3 and beyond: Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt, and James Conner all in Round 3, Tarik Cohen and Marlon Mack in Round 4, Aaron Jones in Round 5, Chris Carson in Round 7. Hardly rare.

 

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/rb

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

8 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

This is probably recency bias on your part because that statement is absolutely a false narrative. It's not rare to find a good RB outside of the 1st or 2nd Round. Using your Chris Carson reference, that 2017 draft alone is littered with several good choices in Round 3 and beyond: Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt, and James Conner all in Round 3, Tarik Cohen and Marlon Mack in Round 4, Aaron Jones in Round 5, Chris Carson in Round 7. Hardly rare.

 

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/rb

 

 

What’s rare is to hit on a first round RB who makes it to his second contract.

[RichRiderBills]

Id be ecstatic if we got Etienne, but i dont see he is seperated from some of the others to merit trading up. 

 

I like the NC RBs too. 

[mjt328]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I don't know why but I'm starting to warm up to the Etienne pick.  I never want a RB in the first and still don't....but for whatever reason I seem okay right now if this is the pick.

 

I'll be completely honest.  This has been a terrible and horribly disappointing offseason for the Bills.  At least so far.

Our biggest free agent additions have been a backup quarterback (on a one-year deal) and swapping John Brown for Emmanuel Sanders (basically a wash if both guys are healthy).  Nothing has been done to upgrade the pass rush.  Nothing has been done to improve the secondary.  

 

To make matters worse, our rivals in the AFC East have made some nice improvements.  The Dolphins are loaded with draft picks to upgrade an already strong roster.  The Jets are a few days away from getting a potential franchise QB, and also have a ton of selections.  And after filling tons of holes in free agency, don't be surprised if Justin Fields falls in Bill Belichick's lap on Thursday night.  Yuck.

 

This offseason was Brandon Beane's golden opportunity to solidify the Bills among the NFL's elite teams.  Our performance in the AFC Championship Game was awful.  It was disgustingly bad.  We didn't even look like legit competition for the Chiefs.  Then two weeks later, the world saw Tampa Bay lay-out the blueprint for beating them.  And it wasn't by featuring a Pro-Bowl running back.  I don't understand how anyone could watch Chiefs receivers running open all game, and be fine with the exact same players in coverage.  I don't understand how anyone could watch the Super Bowl, and be fine with trotting out the exact same group of pass rushers.

 

I want to trust Beane.  And in many ways, he's earned our trust as Bills fans.  But I cannot imagine how picking a RUNNING BACK in the first round (especially with a trade-up) could possibly be the answer.  Just look to the #4 team picking in the draft (Atlanta) to see how quickly a championship-caliber roster can fall apart due to bad decisions.  

 

[ExWNYer]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

What’s rare is to hit on a first round RB who makes it to his second contract.

 

Agreed, which is primarily why I don't want Etienne in the 1st Round, especially at the cost of additional draft assets. Even if you hit on one who makes it to his second contract, it's questionable at best whether allocating those resources to that position is a smart move. Dave Gettleman is about to find that out very soon.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

I'll be completely honest.  This has been a terrible and horribly disappointing offseason for the Bills.  At least so far.

Our biggest free agent additions have been a backup quarterback (on a one-year deal) and swapping John Brown for Emmanuel Sanders (basically a wash if both guys are healthy).  Nothing has been done to upgrade the pass rush.  Nothing has been done to improve the secondary.  

 

To make matters worse, our rivals in the AFC East have made some nice improvements.  The Dolphins are loaded with draft picks to upgrade an already strong roster.  The Jets are a few days away from getting a potential franchise QB, and also have a ton of selections.  And after filling tons of holes in free agency, don't be surprised if Justin Fields falls in Bill Belichick's lap on Thursday night.  Yuck.

 

This offseason was Brandon Beane's golden opportunity to solidify the Bills among the NFL's elite teams.  Our performance in the AFC Championship Game was awful.  It was disgustingly bad.  We didn't even look like legit competition for the Chiefs.  Then two weeks later, the world saw Tampa Bay lay-out the blueprint for beating them.  And it wasn't by featuring a Pro-Bowl running back.  I don't understand how anyone could watch Chiefs receivers running open all game, and be fine with the exact same players in coverage.  I don't understand how anyone could watch the Super Bowl, and be fine with trotting out the exact same group of pass rushers.

 

I want to trust Beane.  And in many ways, he's earned our trust as Bills fans.  But I cannot imagine how picking a RUNNING BACK in the first round (especially with a trade-up) could possibly be the answer.  Just look to the #4 team picking in the draft (Atlanta) to see how quickly a championship-caliber roster can fall apart due to bad decisions.  

 

 

We are returning players on a team that went 13-3.  It's not like we are returning players from a 7-9 team.

 

You're looking at it as 100% on the players.  We had no problem scoring on even better defenses than the Chiefs but for whatever reason, couldn't score on the Chiefs.  We have the players on offense to score on the Chiefs, we just need a better game plan....healthy WR too.

 

Efe I think will give us more than Jefferson.  Star coming back helps with a fat man in the middle, hopefully freeing up Oliver more.  Epenesa is in year 2 and will need him to take the next step.  Plus we have the draft.  This offseason isn't over.

[TheBeaneBandit]

8 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

I'll be completely honest.  This has been a terrible and horribly disappointing offseason for the Bills.  At least so far.

Our biggest free agent additions have been a backup quarterback (on a one-year deal) and swapping John Brown for Emmanuel Sanders (basically a wash if both guys are healthy).  Nothing has been done to upgrade the pass rush.  Nothing has been done to improve the secondary.  

 

To make matters worse, our rivals in the AFC East have made some nice improvements.  The Dolphins are loaded with draft picks to upgrade an already strong roster.  The Jets are a few days away from getting a potential franchise QB, and also have a ton of selections.  And after filling tons of holes in free agency, don't be surprised if Justin Fields falls in Bill Belichick's lap on Thursday night.  Yuck.

 

This offseason was Brandon Beane's golden opportunity to solidify the Bills among the NFL's elite teams.  Our performance in the AFC Championship Game was awful.  It was disgustingly bad.  We didn't even look like legit competition for the Chiefs.  Then two weeks later, the world saw Tampa Bay lay-out the blueprint for beating them.  And it wasn't by featuring a Pro-Bowl running back.  I don't understand how anyone could watch Chiefs receivers running open all game, and be fine with the exact same players in coverage.  I don't understand how anyone could watch the Super Bowl, and be fine with trotting out the exact same group of pass rushers.

 

I want to trust Beane.  And in many ways, he's earned our trust as Bills fans.  But I cannot imagine how picking a RUNNING BACK in the first round (especially with a trade-up) could possibly be the answer.  Just look to the #4 team picking in the draft (Atlanta) to see how quickly a championship-caliber roster can fall apart due to bad decisions.  

 

Very good post. I'd to add while it was impressive keeping their own, the Bills taking the next step is depending heavily on a few young guys progressing (Edmunds/Oliver), Star returning playing like 7 years ago, and Mongo having the use of both arms. 

[McBean]

I hope Ben Allbright is right!!!!

[BuffaloRebound]

I don’t like taking a RB in the 1st round, but this is a unique year.  The lack of info on these prospects probably pushes RB’s up the draft board because RB’s are easier to scout and project.  
Do you roll the dice on a guy like Farley or take more of a sure thing in Etienne?  

Edited April 27, 2021 by BuffaloRebound

[Solomon Grundy]

If this selection was Jonathan Taylor, I’d be okay with it. At Wisconsin, Taylor was the one player you knew you had to contain and rarely could. I don’t/didn’t see this with ETN at Clemson. 

[Ramza86]

I like him as a player. I do not like him on a team that cannot run block.

 

Id much rather have defensive player. Id like someone on the edge who can rush if AJ doesnt step up.

[BillsShredder83]

16 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Just a gut feeling, and while I personally prefer a few other positions myself, Harris is a lot faster than people seem to think.

I dont think Beanes the type to let ego get in the way, and I think its only admitting Singletary, Moss is gunna be a nice back for us IMO. Not saying we will do this, just that if Beane thinks it's best case scenario, he'll pull the trigger