TheBeaneBandit Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Starting to have a gut feeling that Gregory Rousseau will be the pick unless someone unexpectedly slides. I may be in the minority but I think Rousseau has Calias Campbell with a slightly higher ceiling potential. I would be pleased landing him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Asante Samuel Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Greg Newsome II. Has 4.38 speed, led the FBS in passer rating against (15.77), and only allowed one completion of 10+ yard downfield in 2020. Fingers crossed he makes it to #30. Looking like little to no chance that happens imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I may be in the minority but I think Rousseau has Calias Campbell with a slightly higher ceiling potential. I would be pleased landing him. I'm not going to pretend I've watched legit full film on a lot of prospects this year outside of the QBs as I always do, but I've watched a few games of Rousseau's and his film just isn't very good, especially when he's coming off the edge. But having said that, he has some tools that don't come along every day, good production (though I don't think the numbers paint a good picture of what he really is right now) and if I recall correctly, one of the guys on their defensive staff used to work for us. I think he checks a lot of the boxes that we tend to favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I may be in the minority but I think Rousseau has Calias Campbell with a slightly higher ceiling potential. I would be pleased landing him. You know who else thinks so? Calais Campbell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Starting to have a gut feeling that Gregory Rousseau will be the pick unless someone unexpectedly slides. Yeah....I’m thinking it one of the pass rushers with good upside. Oweh, Tryon, Ossai or Rousseau then CB/WR or CB/OL in rd 2-3. I think we might be able to get better value if we go CB rd 1 (Tyson Campbell, Newsome will be gone) and pass rusher rd 2 or later. The only corner I’d be excited about after rd 1 would be Adebo. I’d settle for melinfonwu, Joseph, stokes, Rochelle, Trill, Williams. Molden just seems to be a Taron replacement . There could be a handful of possible options at pass rusher in rd 2-5 (Perkins, Tryon, Ossai, Turner, Basham, roche, smith, Jones, weaver, smith, Toney, kaindoh). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Our DEs are old too... I agree your point is valid....but... I think the DE crop thats available when we pick needs a lot of schooling and will not help the team now. We have Epenesa 22 Johnson 24 Cox 26, Love 27 and Obada 29 the Bills could add another project DE in the 2nd or 3rd The WR crop is deeper and the Bills could get a prospect that is ready to play now. What ever happens I trust Beane and his team to get the best value and prospect for the Bills. Edited April 27, 2021 by JMF2006 used team twice in a sentence and it just didn't sound right ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Campbell from Georgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 I’m thinking a long tall Miami Hurricane DE and I’d be good with either one. Would like JP. Without medical history he goes right after the QBs top of the draft imo. With medical history he’s in Bills range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 48 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I agree your point is valid....but... I think the DE crop thats available when we pick needs a lot of schooling and will not help the team now. We have Epenesa 22 Johnson 24 Cox 26, Love 27 and Obada 29 the Bills could add another project DE in the 2nd or 3rd The WR crop is deeper and the Bills could get a prospect that is ready to play now. What ever happens I trust Beane and his team to get the best value and prospect for the Bills. Fair comments...however other than Epenesa, the othes you have listed are JAGS.. On the flip side, with Diggs, Beas, Davis and Saunders how much can a rookie WR add to that group in 2021? I think it’s a moot point though until you see who is actually on the board when they pick.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 16 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think far from thriving Samuel struggles in zone. I am going to call my shot and say Etienne. I came out of Beane's presser last week thinking it was corner to start now, edge or receiver to start later or Travis Etienne. So given the Etienne buzz I will stick with that. My second / third guesses would be Jayson Oweh and Joseph Ossai. What about his workload in college - quite heavy with 650+ carries and 800+ touches. I’d stay away unless you are drafting him for only about 3 years and then will move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 The more I think about it, it could be Elijah Moore. Beane talked about a long term pick. We know that hes once again shown a lot of interest in the WR group again this year. Well Moore does the #1 thing that Beane covets at the WR position. Moore is the best WR in the class at creating separation. I saw another tweet earlier which gave the exact yards of separation he created but I cannot find it atm. Regardless he was #1. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 JOK. After they move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 najee harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 4/26/2021 at 2:00 PM, 17islongenough said: Jaelen Phillips I keep thinking this too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 4 hours ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: Asante Samuel Jr. If we stay at 30, he would be like a final consolation prize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 4 hours ago, DCOrange said: I'm not going to pretend I've watched legit full film on a lot of prospects this year outside of the QBs as I always do, but I've watched a few games of Rousseau's and his film just isn't very good, especially when he's coming off the edge. But having said that, he has some tools that don't come along every day, good production (though I don't think the numbers paint a good picture of what he really is right now) and if I recall correctly, one of the guys on their defensive staff used to work for us. I think he checks a lot of the boxes that we tend to favor. Yeah as I believe @GunnerBill pointed out earlier this offseason when you watch his tape you see a lot of Leonard Floyd in him in his pass rush off the edge. But I think his ceiling is higher though because he's a physically much bigger, stronger player and his one season at Miami was almost as productive as Floyd's 3 at Georgia. Floyd never produced so it's not a surprise he's never put up huge numbers. To me the thing he has that Floyd and Calais Campbell don't have are those 11" hands for tackling. They make his wingspan a bit more functional so I think he has a chance snare a lot of unassisted/shoestring tackles and pile up TFL's and more sacks than you'd expect from someone who isn't pretty technique-wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 ETN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: You know who else thinks so? Calais Campbell. The sad thing is........Tremaine Edmunds has about the same wingspan as Campbell and Rousseau but with legit 4.5 speed........aaaaand he's laboring to make any impactful plays at MLB and got spun around like a top in coverage last year. I think sometimes people forget why he was seen by some as the best pass rushing prospect in his draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolFAN93 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Besides RB and a pass rusher, what else are you guys in need of? Rousseau has a ton of upside but he's raw. Do your coaches believe in Epenesa developing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The sad thing is........Tremaine Edmunds has about the same wingspan as Campbell and Rousseau but with legit 4.5 speed........aaaaand he's laboring to make any impactful plays at MLB and got spun around like a top in coverage last year. I think sometimes people forget why he was seen by some as the best pass rushing prospect in his draft. As I said elsewhere, a third round pick on Werner solves all problems on defense. There’s your instinctive Mike, and Edmunds becomes a 10-15 sack guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Carlos “Boogie” Basham Jr, DE, Wake Forest 38th ranked player on Gil Brandt’s big board. Best EDGE in the draft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: As I said elsewhere, a third round pick on Werner solves all problems on defense. There’s your instinctive Mike, and Edmunds becomes a 10-15 sack guy. That kinda' move would require a growth mindset. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: That kinda' move would require a growth mindset. I think they call it “innovation consulting” nowadays… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: 7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: That kinda' move would require a growth mindset. That's the thing with this staff.....late or never at all adjustments due to stuck in their ways stubbornness. You gotta morph as the league changes. Edited April 28, 2021 by TheBeaneBandit More words 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Just now, TheBeaneBandit said: That's the thing with this staff.....late or never at all adjustments due to stuck in their ways stubbornness. Wouldn’t go that far, at all. They’ve gotten better at cutting bait. Kelvin Benjamin, Quinten Spain, Juan Castillo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Wouldn’t go that far, at all. They’ve gotten better at cutting bait. Kelvin Benjamin, Quinten Spain, Juan Castillo. True there has been progress.....but imo it's not up to process lol! I'm encouraged but need a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma Center. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The Bills will trade with Bears. Chicago gets pick 30, the Bills get Khalil Mack. Just a thought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: The Bills will trade with Bears. Chicago gets pick 30, the Bills get Khalil Mack. Just a thought. So they'll trade away their cost controlled 1st Round draft pick for a player (albeit very good) with a $14M+ cap hit? How many starters are you planning to cut to achieve this? This is the defensive version of Screamin' A. Smith suggesting they trade for Julio Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, ExWNYer said: So they'll trade away their cost controlled 1st Round draft pick for a player (albeit very good) with a $14M+ cap hit? How many starters are you planning to cut to achieve this? This is the defensive version of Screamin' A. Smith suggesting they trade for Julio Jones. Don't be so serious...I am having fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Rocket94 said: Don't be so serious...I am having fun. You suggested it, so I asked. No emoji, no 'LOL' so it read as a serious take on your part. Don't sweat it, carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I'll go with Jayson Oweh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I'm saying Asante Samuel, Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Greg Rousseau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Phillips, Barmore, or Tryon... IMO those are the 3 DL with most upside. I think we’ll be able to find an upgrade at CB2 in round 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 it will be Greg Rousseau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Greg Newsome II. Has 4.38 speed, led the FBS in passer rating against (15.77), and only allowed one completion of 10+ yard downfield in 2020. Fingers crossed he makes it to #30. I think that’s the pick, too. Perfect scheme fit. I’d prefer one of the WRs, but I doubt I’ll be consulted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 There’s 3 choices I’d like to see the Bills draft if available: Zaven Collins, Terrace Marshall, Teven Jenkins in this order. Collins, being the Swiss Army Knife on defense. Marshall, the big, physical, future #2 WR opposite Diggs. Jenkins, the road grading G/RT needed to help run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I’m just guessing on how the board falls and where the Bills might go but my guess is Landon Dickerson. It makes sense to me building for the future at that spot and the only question is whether it causes some kind of internal rift with Morse. This year is closer to guesswork than I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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