billsbackto81 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 8:58 PM, ScottLaw said: There were quite a few of those draft blunders. Whitner, TJ Graham, Spiller, Maybin. Just awful. Whitner and Spiller were decent NFL players, they were just over drafted. Not their fault there. Maybin and Graham had no business in the NFL and were horrible decisions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 All that athletic ability and did zilch on the field. I gotta pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 If we draft him, which i pray we do not, we should hire Jordan Palmer to work with him. Dude isn’t very good playing football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Joe Marino says he’s come around on Oweh, but I still don’t get it. Oweh is off the charts athletic, but doesn’t seem to know how to play football at anywhere near an elite level. Seems like he ls always making the wrong decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 8:49 PM, MAJBobby said: Maybin wasn’t even close to Oweh athletic profile. And we are talking 30 not 11. inexperienced athletic Gifted QB traded up for how did that work out? but does he match that legendary Maybin "first step"? 2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Whitner and Spiller were decent NFL players, they were just over drafted. Not their fault there. Maybin and Graham had no business in the NFL and were horrible decisions. The rest of the NFL voted on Spiller: he was a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: but does he match that legendary Maybin "first step"? The rest of the NFL voted on Spiller: he was a bust. In 2012 he rushed for 1244 at a 6.0 yard per carry average, 1703 scrimmage yards and made the PB. In 2013 he rushed for 933 in 15 games at 4.6 a carry. Did he pan out? No, but he was not exactly a bust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Hard pass. I want Basham, could live with Ossai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 8 hours ago, HappyDays said: Cover1 posted a bunch of Oweh clips today: https://twitter.com/i/events/1383095364287401987?s=09 I know he is raw but he looks like a force to be reckoned with, it's just going to take some patience with him. I would be happy with him as the pick at #30. there’s a lot of “impressive athleticism even if it didn’t work” in that stack. just would’ve been nice to see a bit more “made both the athletic move and right read and resulted in success” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I see a lot of back and forth here on whether he's a good prospect or not. Here are the Top 3 reasons why the Bills simply won't pick him: 1. He's too raw and won't contribute in Year 1. We need someone who can compete now. 2. No production and our current staff values actual production. 3. Another team in rebuild mode will take him earlier because they can afford to wait and he has upside if you're willing to wait 2-3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 No thanks. Id rather have Barmore. I think Barmore helps this DL much more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 9:10 PM, John from Riverside said: I really dont want to just auto take Penn State off the menu just because of Aaron Maybin Maybin was billed as Oweh. Maybin was not the athlete Oweh is. Oweh is an elite athlete. I do not expect him to be there at 30 because of his potentiel. If he is, Buffalo takes him in .01 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: Maybin was billed as Oweh. Maybin was not the athlete Oweh is. Oweh is an elite athlete. I do not expect him to be there at 30 because of his potentiel. If he is, Buffalo takes him in .01 secs. He’s bad at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: there’s a lot of “impressive athleticism even if it didn’t work” in that stack. just would’ve been nice to see a bit more “made both the athletic move and right read and resulted in success” So you are saying his fit would be at MLB in the McDefense? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 12 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: In 2012 he rushed for 1244 at a 6.0 yard per carry average, 1703 scrimmage yards and made the PB. In 2013 he rushed for 933 in 15 games at 4.6 a carry. Did he pan out? No, but he was not exactly a bust. He was exactly a bust. Top 10 pick. 2 good years out of 8. Bounced around 4 teams in 3 seasons after the Bills finally dumped him. A career total 12 rushing TDs, 9 receiving (vs 19 fumbles). 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 This really isn't the time to take chances on freaks of nature who need work when they should be getting what should be immediate starters at key positions. Positions like IOL or CB who are going to have the most impact and play the most snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Hard pass. I want Basham, could live with Ossai. Basham is Lawson 2.0. We need a more dynamic rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 With Hughes, Addison now sticking around after taking a pay cut, Epenesa, Obada and Johnson, forget DE and get a CB in the first and a 1-tech in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, delirious said: This really isn't the time to take chances on freaks of nature who need work when they should be getting what should be immediate starters at key positions. Positions like IOL or CB who are going to have the most impact and play the most snaps. I think about it in terms of beating the Chiefs. Does a better CB2 help us beat them last year? Wallace is a limited player but he wasn't the problem. Our problem was we left Mahomes completely clean. Watching our pass rush compared to the Bucs it was like two totally different sports. I'm happy to draft an athletic CB at pick 30 since it does fill a need and there will be good value at that spot, but we can afford to take a swing on a high upside pass rusher even if he is only used sparingly in his rookie season. Edited April 17, 2021 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: I think about it in terms of beating the Chiefs. Does a better CB2 help us beat them last year? Wallace is a limited player but he wasn't the problem. Our problem was we left Mahomes completely clean. Watching our pass rush compared to the Bucs it was like two totally different sports. I'm happy to draft an athletic CB at pick 30 since it does fill a need and there will be good value at that spot, but we can afford to take a swing on a high upside pass rusher even if he is only used sparingly in his rookie season. That's fine and dandy except this guy couldn't even find a sack. Paye, or the guy from georgia or even Phillips, sure. But this guy no freaking way, I want what you're smoking. So yes, a creed Humphrey, landon dickerson I would wager would do way better on IOL. And yeah, CB maybe not so much, but it's an upgrade and not some shot in the dark on this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Fans will not have enough patience with Oweh. It be 10x worse then what we are seeing with Edmunds. 😂 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I don’t love Oweh, but after seeing this TBD consensus on us not drafting him, I’m not even gonna bother watching the draft. let’s go new Buffalo Bill Jayson Oweh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 19 hours ago, Max Fischer said: Joe Marino says he’s come around on Oweh, but I still don’t get it. Oweh is off the charts athletic, but doesn’t seem to know how to play football at anywhere near an elite level. Seems like he ls always making the wrong decision. Maybe he’s not particularly football smart, wouldn’t be the first time that an elite athlete turns out to not be good at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Danielle Hunter didn’t log sacks in college and has turned out just fine with similar measurables. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Danielle Hunter didn’t log sacks in college and has turned out just fine with similar measurables. Glad to know it's 1:1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 18 hours ago, Mat68 said: Maybin was billed as Oweh. Maybin was not the athlete Oweh is. Oweh is an elite athlete. I do not expect him to be there at 30 because of his potentiel. If he is, Buffalo takes him in .01 secs. I personally think Maybin was just a enigma and the school itself should not be held accountable for that player.......I honestly dont think his heart was in football to begin with. If this guy Oweh loves football......he is probably going to be a stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 8:58 PM, ScottLaw said: There were quite a few of those draft blunders. Whitner, TJ Graham, Spiller, Maybin. Just awful. I wouldnt exactly call Spiller and Whitner blunders.... they were still productive for us. Overreaches yes... in Maybin's caregory as a blunder yes. And TJ Graham was a 3rd round pick whichbis far from a sure thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He was exactly a bust. Top 10 pick. 2 good years out of 8. Bounced around 4 teams in 3 seasons after the Bills finally dumped him. A career total 12 rushing TDs, 9 receiving (vs 19 fumbles). I guess your opinion of a "bust" differs from mine. When I think bust I think, Manziel Ja. Russell T. Mandarich Ki-jana Carter Charles Rogers Akili Smith V. Gholston Ryan Leaf, etc.... Not one productive season among them. There was a time, though short, CJ looked like he belonged in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, billsbackto81 said: I guess your opinion of a "bust" differs from mine. When I think bust I think, Manziel Ja. Russell T. Mandarich Ki-jana Carter Charles Rogers Akili Smith V. Gholston Ryan Leaf, etc.... Not one productive season among them. There was a time, though short, CJ looked like he belonged in the NFL. He was a dud. A bum. A bust. Breath it in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Maybe he’s not particularly football smart, wouldn’t be the first time that an elite athlete turns out to not be good at football. He doesn’t have a lot of football experience. I believe he first played as a HS Junior and didn’t play a ton of games at Penn State before declaring for the draft. I don’t know if it will eventually click for him or if he will disappoint and disappear. I see him as a very risky pick early, but respected football people including Gil Brandt think he will have impact even this coming season. 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I personally think Maybin was just a enigma and the school itself should not be held accountable for that player.......I honestly dont think his heart was in football to begin with. If this guy Oweh loves football......he is probably going to be a stud There is some truth in your statement about Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: He was a dud. A bum. A bust. Breath it in... Ok. I'll breathe in some of your air, but something tells me you live in Colorado😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Ok. I'll breathe in some of your air, but something tells me you live in Colorado😆 Never been! You must be one of those "if you can get Spiller into space" guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 46 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Never been! You must be one of those "if you can get Spiller into space" guys. I liked him as a player, though we didn't need to overdraft a RB. All I said was he was a good player when healthy. If you want to compare where he was drafted to his career production I guess you can make the case. But, like I said before it's not a players fault if a team picks him sooner than projected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 8:48 PM, 4merper4mer said: An inexperienced DE from PSU. What could go wrong? Looks to me a lot more like Cam Wake than Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, starrymessenger said: Looks to me a lot more like Cam Wake than Maybin. Say Noweh to Oweh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 8:54 PM, whatdrought said: Ugh. Now I’m down that anger rabbit hole. Maybin over Orakpo is still the worst drought era draft decision to me. It was never even defendable because everyone knew Orakpo was a better prospect. Mike Williams over McKinney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The MTC guys had him go in the mid 20’s Friday. He has speed and strength and I liked from the video his long arms. If we don’t trade up in the 20’s I don’t see us getting any quality difference making Edge Rusher and we don’t have the capital to get higher than the 20’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 15 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I personally think Maybin was just a enigma and the school itself should not be held accountable for that player....... There are a lot more important things than Maybin for which PSU has never been truly held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 We just signed the same guy with a little NFL success to a barely over minimum contract. Athletes are great, football players it does not make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 12 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I liked him as a player, though we didn't need to overdraft a RB. All I said was he was a good player when healthy. If you want to compare where he was drafted to his career production I guess you can make the case. But, like I said before it's not a players fault if a team picks him sooner than projected. He was the #1 RB per ESPN and a projected 1st round pick. SI and Foxsports mocked him in top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 22 hours ago, Doc said: With Hughes, Addison now sticking around after taking a pay cut, Epenesa, Obada and Johnson, forget DE and get a CB in the first and a 1-tech in the 2nd. I think I agree with this strategy. Nonetheless the Big Baller sees we lack pass rush. And will have to match value and need so I would hope BBB goes with the best football player on the board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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