YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Poor guy 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Where's that guy that said that Beane messed up letting Shaq walk? Edited March 14, 2021 by DJB 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Poor Texans, for thinking Shaq will give them the pass rush they desperately need...Lol Shaq’s name actually pass rushes better than the actual player...😉 Edited March 14, 2021 by JaCrispy 4 2 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Poor Texans, for thinking Shaq will give them the pass rush they desperately need...Lol That would be the Texans.........being the Texans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) I just saw this on FB and all I read first was "Houston and Miami have a deal:" I screamed "F********K!!!" at the top of my lungs making both the dog and cat run for their lives....... Then I realized it wasn't for Watson and was like, "Oh, well that's useless." Edited March 14, 2021 by H2o 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Really looking forward to Shaq’s 7 sack season resurgence in Buffalo in 2022. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Smart move by the Texans to re-unite Watson with a former Clemson buddy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Feel bad for Shaq. Imagine moving to Miami then being traded after a year to an abysmal Texans team. Not worried about 'pro-bowl McKinney.' He didn't help an abysmal run and pass defence in Houston last year. Not every pro bowler is must have, hello Trai Turner. Grier should be careful. He doesn't want a reputation of immediately dumping new signings as he has Van Noy and Lawson and maybe Tua? Loyalty and stability is a thing. Edited March 14, 2021 by Seoulofstone 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 Weird that Miami signed both him and van noy last year in FA, had no change in defensive coaches/scheme or GM, and already moving on from both. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Only a matter of time until Watson declares he's happy there now after this move. 🙄 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I think that it signals Miami looking at FA DEs and a lack of good LBs made this deal to get a better LB now and go after DEs later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Miami got a player they can use.........they had needs at ILB.......for the 2018 version of Shaq that they accidentally bought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: So basically he's Tremaine Edmunds? Our pro bowlers are for real, though. Shaq laid an egg in Miami. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I wonder if this deal came about while talking about another possible deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Weird that Miami signed both him and van noy last year in FA, had no change in defensive coaches/scheme or GM, and already moving on from both. I know right. And they signed them with the expectation that they'd be contributing starters for a few years. Not a good look for their GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 So now the Texans have given the Dolphins 2 first round draft choices including the the #3 this year plus a second round pick for Tunsil and now pick up a pro bowl linebacker in exchange for a scrub DE they over paid for in FA last year. I almost feel like the Texans owner lost a massive poker bet to the Owners of the Cardinals and Dolphins. Both teams are way better now because of the Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Weird that Miami signed both him and van noy last year in FA, had no change in defensive coaches/scheme or GM, and already moving on from both. Dysfunctional head coach doing his work down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Houston is going to 4-3 D and does not need 2 ILB. Makes sense for both teams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Wow Shaq just went to the bottom of the ***** hill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: So basically he's Tremaine Edmunds? Lol. Tre really came on in the 2nd half of the year and I thought it improved our whole defense. We were top 3 in most major categories in the 2nd half of the season. He ended the season on a bad note but thats a brutal task trying to guard Kelce and not bite on PA . I think Tre will end up reaching his potential, works too hard not to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Feel bad for Shaq. Imagine moving to Miami then being traded after a year to an abysmal Texans team. Not worried about 'pro-bowl McKinney.' He didn't help an abysmal run and pass defence in Houston last year. Not every pro bowler is must have, hello Trai Turner. Grier should be careful. He doesn't want a reputation of immediately dumping new signings as he has Van Noy and Lawson and maybe Tua? Loyalty and stability is a thing. meh, he shoulda stayed here and won instead of chasing cheddar. I like him, but guys that chase money instead of considering where their value is/what situation gives them the best chance to succeed and win usually end up dealing with situations like this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: Feel bad for Shaq. Imagine moving to Miami then being traded after a year to an abysmal Texans team. Not worried about 'pro-bowl McKinney.' He didn't help an abysmal run and pass defence in Houston last year. Not every pro bowler is must have, hello Trai Turner. Grier should be careful. He doesn't want a reputation of immediately dumping new signings as he has Van Noy and Lawson and maybe Tua? Loyalty and stability is a thing. Shaq shouldn’t have left Buffalo. He’d have a better chance getting a ring if he stayed vs chasing the money. Now he’s going to a ***** team that’s in full rebuild mode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Does this mean that Shaq is replacing JJ Watt ? He will not be a popular player with the fans in Houston. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, whatdrought said: meh, he shoulda stayed here and won instead of chasing cheddar. I like him, but guys that chase money instead of considering where their value is/what situation gives them the best chance to succeed and win usually end up dealing with situations like this. And then they get cut because that team sucks, so they really never end up seeing all the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Lol. Tre really came on in the 2nd half of the year and I thought it improved our whole defense. We were top 3 in most major categories in the 2nd half of the season. He ended the season on a bad note but thats a brutal task trying to guard Kelce and not bite on PA . I think Tre will end up reaching his potential, works too hard not to Matt Milano got healthy. That was why. That’s why Beane gave him $44M. Jane Edmunds was a negative value player out there without Matty. Edited March 14, 2021 by FireChans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: And then they get cut because that team sucks, so they really never end up seeing all the money. yep. I’m not ever gonna fault a guy for getting the bag he can when he can. But I don’t feel compelled to feel sorry when chasing said bag leads to the player being unhappy/negative career things happening. If I leave a job I love with great coworkers and an environment that helps me be the best version of myself where I’m making 45k a year and I go across town and take a job at 50k where the culture sucks, my job is different and I can’t be as successful, and I’m miserable, I don’t really deserve anyone’s sympathy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: yep. I’m not ever gonna fault a guy for getting the bag he can when he can. But I don’t feel compelled to feel sorry when chasing said bag leads to the player being unhappy/negative career things happening. If I leave a job I love with great coworkers and an environment that helps me be the best version of myself where I’m making 45k a year and I go across town and take a job at 50k where the culture sucks, my job is different and I can’t be as successful, and I’m miserable, I don’t really deserve anyone’s sympathy. That's fair. The only difference being that Shaq signed a contract with Miami. He's now trapped in that contract for a different team. I know it's the rules of the game but you'd have to feel annoyed if you got 'traded' to another company ... 58 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: So basically he's Tremaine Edmunds? Touche. I can be a cracked record when it comes to pro-bowls ... Edited March 14, 2021 by Seoulofstone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, DJB said: Where's that guy that said that Beane messed up letting Shaq walk? Rex or Doug, can you please reply to this post about you. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Wow. That didn't last long. But how did that edge rush work out for them in Miami? 4 sacks, 18 QB hits, 1 pass defensed, 32 tackles, and 4 tackles for loss We diss off Mario Addison as inadequate contribution. He had 5 sacks, 8 QB hits, 4 passes defensed, 30 tackles, and 8 tackles for loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I like this quote from the Texans forum. "I had forgotten Shaq Lawson was on the Dolphins. I had forgotten that Benadrick McKinney had been to the probowl." Their site thought McKinney was a cut candidate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Beast said: I wonder if this deal came about while talking about another possible deal? I'm sure they talk about all sorts of deals, but basically Miami needed a LB after dumping Van Nuys and Houston is converting to a 4-3 D and has extra ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Should've traded him for JJ Watt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Too inconsistent. Doesn't do anything spectacular. I don't see it, but if there's any year to really show what he's got it this year. I think a lot of the angst people (myself included) have towards our linebackers stems from the KC game. Looking back, our coaching was an absolute disgrace in that game. Romo was eviscerating us all game for not chipping Kelce and being physical with him. Tampa comes in two weeks later, and what do you know... hit him every time he released from the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Jesus Texans stop making stupid trades 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: That's fair. The only difference being that Shaq signed a contract with Miami. He's now trapped in that contract for a different team. I know it's the rules of the game but you'd have to feel annoyed if you got 'traded' to another company ... Touche. I can be a cracked record when it comes to pro-bowls ... Right, and that’s part of the game. The difference is, if Shaq had stayed (assuming we offered him a deal) at a reasonable price, he would likely have been an important piece of our team this past year and he’d be here still. Part of making a FA decision out to be looking at the team and deciding if they’re going to value you for the duration of the deal. Part of that is about organization structure and consistency - the dolphins haven’t had much of that lately. Plus, you go play for a BB disciple, you get the BB treatment. Ask Kyle Van Noy. Edited March 14, 2021 by whatdrought 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: I know right. And they signed them with the expectation that they'd be contributing starters for a few years. Not a good look for their GM. Depends - they signed them as the best they could get last year. This year they could improve on both of them - so you move on. If it works their GM did fine - convert an over paid DE into an improved younger LB and have a ton of FA DEs to choose from on the market. Van Noy was brought in to set the attitude and knowledge - you move on once you think that is established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 This screams of what I have been diametrically opposed that the Texans would be idiots to trade Watson. So I guess I’m wrong, and ok. Not first and certainly not the last. It’s such a sign the Texans are in full rebuild. Shaq was nice here, but it was a smart call for him for his family. These guys at their core want the $, so they set up their future. I never fault a guy for that call as it’s not about sports, winning, it’s about their value so they have 30 years just figuring out their real career post football. Shaq, hopefully you can prove yourself on a bad team, and maybe there is another move in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 When a player keeps yelling contract year every time he makes a play. DON'T RE-SIGN THAT PLAYER. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Unfortunately, Miami did well in this trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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