Solomon Grundy Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 56 minutes ago, Jerboski said: Does this take you out of the game for Lawson hendrickson Yannick if so bad move by beane... we need pass rushers not guys who can barely stop the run, not a passing rushing threat and decent at coverage (but overhyped) Kicks me off the Zaven Collins train 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: I agree. But it's tough to predict. I thought they would go cheap at LB. Maybe they decided not to pick up Edmunds option. At some point someone was getting paid at LB. For sure. Trust me, I love him as a player. I just thought with some of the tough decisions with contracts, if you had to lose someone, I would have been “ok” with the OLB who has some injury concerns. but guy is a playmaker and we are better with him in the lineup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Did not see this coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Virgil said: He also shut down Mark Andrews True... Milano isn’t awful, quite good actually but the colts ran the ball and hit passes over the middle all day long on us kelce and the chiefs screen game shredded us isnt this supposed to be what Milano is paid to stop? again this isn’t to tear down Milano, it’s more a discussion of how to spend limited resources and I question if Milano is someone you want to pay 10+ A year for... I don’t see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Jerboski said: True... Milano isn’t awful, quite good actually but the colts ran the ball and hit passes over the middle all day long on us kelce and the chiefs screen game shredded us isnt this supposed to be what Milano is paid to stop? again this isn’t to tear down Milano, it’s more a discussion of how to spend limited resources and I question if Milano is someone you want to pay 10+ A year for... I don’t see it i felt like they used milano more as a pass rusher. edmunds didnt do anything in zone defending pass d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: LMAO, he signed for less because he had no offers coming on open market that would have been better. Once again HOW...DO...YOU....KNOW....THIS 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Jerboski said: True... Milano isn’t awful, quite good actually but the colts ran the ball and hit passes over the middle all day long on us kelce and the chiefs screen game shredded us isnt this supposed to be what Milano is paid to stop? again this isn’t to tear down Milano, it’s more a discussion of how to spend limited resources and I question if Milano is someone you want to pay 10+ A year for... I don’t see it What you are saying is very short sighted with all due respect. In those games, the bills played a lot of zone. (As per they usually do) You are making it seem like Milano was responsible for covering Kelce 1 on 1 and had coverage on jack doyle 1 on 1. That is simply not the case and so much goes into a zone defence. He also rushed the passer on multiple occasions in those instances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, Jerboski said: Cost two OL for a guy who made no impact in the chiefs game keep the Ol together, you don’t pay linebackers like Milano who can’t rush the passer, marginal in run support Who was wearing Milano's jersey on sack of Ben Roethlisberger? https://www.buffalobills.com/video/matt-milano-sacks-ben-roethlisberger-bills-vs-steelers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JerseyBills Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Love it. This is going to be a special team for years n years to come. Milano is a difference maker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: What you are saying is very short sighted with all due respect. In those games, the bills played a lot of zone. (As per they usually do) You are making it seem like Milano was responsible for covering Kelce 1 on 1 and had coverage on jack doyle 1 on 1. That is simply not the case and so much goes into a zone defence. He also rushed the passer on multiple occasions in those instances. He isn’t solely responsible but him and Edmunds are primarily tasked to take that stuff away and they didn’t did tremaine add to this, of course but it wasn’t like Milano was creating negative plays or stopping them either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I like that we retained Milano. Now I'm hoping the Bills develop competitive LB depth such that LB3 isn't a huge talent drop-off. Klein can do some nice things, but he's not the LB3 with decent coverage ability we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: The first bit of Bills inside info I’ve ever received turned out to be a sham. My buddy has a relative who works on the Bills Strength and Conditioning team. He told me that the players, coaches and FO views Milanos body being as a ticking bomb, apparently not. love the Italian Stallion, kid just needs to stay healthy. It’s basically a 2 year deal (if we choose). Maybe they want to keep Milano and Edmunds together through Edmunds’ 5th year option, then decide which one to keep. Deal seems structured where we have 2 years to find and groom his replacement. 2 drafts to hope a nice BPA falls into our lap at the position. Gives Beane time, and a nice contributor to the D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Only 7mil cap hit the first year. Love it. I think they can bring back Mongo and Williams. Probably can’t get anyone else and I’m fine with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Jerboski said: He isn’t solely responsible but him and Edmunds are primarily tasked to take that stuff away and they didn’t did tremaine add to this, of course but it wasn’t like Milano was creating negative plays or stopping them either Defensive line has a huge impact. If you get no pressure with a zone defence, you can have Brian urlacher and Patrick Willis as your linebackers and it wouldn’t matter much. Especially against rivers and Mahomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Great signing!!! Happy Milano is back at a great price. I thought he was going to get around $13-$14 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: 11 million If this was true wouldn't his contract of been for 55.6 Million and not 44? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Against the Colts they were fine for the most part... I mean they held a top 10 offense to 24 points didn’t they? Folks still don’t want to acknowledge the Colts were probably the 3rd best team in the AFC and we matched up horribly with them. It was a below average performance. Then they went out and smacked around the reigning MVP for 3 quarters coming off of the biggest win of his career. Then they were seriously overmatched by KC. You solution is to not pay Milano, create a hole there and then what? Sign a DE or OL? You said either or... so then what do we do if we are-sign Williams... then we have no impact DE or Milano on defense and still can’t stop the Chiefs... anything else? If you can get Williams at let’s say 10M a year, you are now good at the tackles spot which we just previously agreed was important now if there is anything left which there should be you can put that towards one of the pass rushers (quite a list) surely we can get one then in the draft you can find the replacement for Milano, it is much easier to find a linebacker to fill his role than impact pass rushers and proven tackles josh Allen is the franchise, asking a rookie RT and Cody Ford at RG doesn’t give me thrills if you know what I mean but hey Milano is back so it is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: Signing still gets us NO WHERE close to beating the chiefs True but it also prevents another hole needing to be addressed. Now we ca focus in edge, cb2 , and most importantly fixing that o line with its terrible run blocking scheme. Can’t take steps back while everyone else has huge cap room ( in our division) to catch us. Great market value fell in place with need so this is win * win. Need to hold ground we have have achieved and now build on it. Can’t keep thinking all guys are easily replaced. Milano has been here and grown. That has value as a leader. More so than a one year guy like Williams for example. I think we can replace him with lots of guys coming available with cap purges or perhaps Beane even now can keep him and work on interior line and edge. Big issue is one less hole to fill and it was done with our own guy who does make a difference in this scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Good news👍 looks like the odds/percentage of him being re-signed were a bit higher than was thought to be... 😁 ah, life on the Bills forum..., 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 This is the culture and the process. Milano could have made more money on the open market but didn’t even test it. He knows were are close and obviously loves it here. This is what a good FO and HC will do to an organization. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Virgil said: Only 7mil cap hit the first year. Love it. I think they can bring back Mongo and Williams. Probably can’t get anyone else and I’m fine with that To not land one of the DE’s would be pretty disappointing in my opinion you are basically repeating last year, it was good but to take the next step the DL needs help rushing the passer want to stop mahomes, get him on the move and hit often... bucs blueprint is right there 4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Defensive line has a huge impact. If you get no pressure with a zone defence, you can have Brian urlacher and Patrick Willis as your linebackers and it wouldn’t matter much. Especially against rivers and Mahomes Exactly why I’m advocating to use the money on the DL, specifically for guys like Lawson or Yannick put them with jerry and Oliver... I think we could see a dominant DL getting after qb’s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jerboski said: If you can get Williams at let’s say 10M a year, you are now good at the tackles spot which we just previously agreed was important now if there is anything left which there should be you can put that towards one of the pass rushers (quite a list) surely we can get one then in the draft you can find the replacement for Milano, it is much easier to find a linebacker to fill his role than impact pass rushers and proven tackles josh Allen is the franchise, asking a rookie RT and Cody Ford at RG doesn’t give me thrills if you know what I mean but hey Milano is back so it is what it is Well we just got Milano at about ~$10M per year. So why can’t we use what’s left over to get a pass rusher from that extensive list and sign them and draft a lineman in a pretty well regarded OL draft class? Seeing that I said LT was more valuable than LB... I’m not paying Williams about what we’re paying Dawkins... and obviously it’s not super easy to replace Milano because we were 3-3 without him and 10-0 with him this season... if they felt he was easily replaceable they would’ve replaced him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yes!!! Im pretty confident that Feliciano is a goner. As much was said about Milano, but here we are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Don Otreply said: As much was said about Milano, but here we are... That is true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I am pleased. Our defense is never the same without Milano. He has been one of my favorite defenders the past few years. Let's hope he can stay healthy and go out there and produce. Seriously cool he took a smaller contract to stay here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jerboski said: To not land one of the DE’s would be pretty disappointing in my opinion you are basically repeating last year, it was good but to take the next step the DL needs help rushing the passer want to stop mahomes, get him on the move and hit often... bucs blueprint is right there Exactly why I’m advocating to use the money on the DL, specifically for guys like Lawson or Yannick put them with jerry and Oliver... I think we could see a dominant DL getting after qb’s Fair enough. I’m not disagreeing with you too much. I like the signing, but yes I would be disappointed if that means they can’t get a DE or Williams back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, JGMcD2 said: Well we just got Milano at about ~$10M per year. So why can’t we use what’s left over to get a pass rusher from that extensive list and sign them and draft a lineman in a pretty well regarded OL draft class? Seeing that I said LT was more valuable than LB... I’m not paying Williams about what we’re paying Dawkins... and obviously it’s not super easy to replace Milano because we were 3-3 without him and 10-0 with him this season... if they felt he was easily replaceable they would’ve replaced him... nice man, leave out the playoff game? Come on... the entire point of this off-season is to close the gap with the chiefs you could still get one of the pass rushers but I’m sorry I don’t love the idea of starting a rookie tackle to protect our franchise... I would much rather pay Williams and a proven pass rusher and take my chances finding the next linebacker in the draft than trying to find a future RT to protect our franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jerboski said: My crusade is pay pass rushers and OL, Milano isn’t closing the gap with the chiefs. We saw them in the playoffs, 2 out of 3 games the defense was shredded Pay elite pass rushers or corners, coverage linebackers at 11M a year not unless your last name is David In McDermott's defense in particular, a player like Milano is hugely critical. And Milano's deal is a bargain for Buffalo. If this were a $13 or $14 million dollar deal, maybe you'd have a bit of an argument. The problem for you is that this is a good deal for a very good player. And while you're obsessed with stats, I prefer wins. This is similar to the argument in terms of complaints with Star Lotulelei. His impact on the game is not showing up on the stat sheet and I think this year everyone came to appreciate what he brought to the team as a player in 2019 because we saw how the team was without him. Again.... the team lost more games and gave up significantly more points and yards without Milano in the lineup. He matters a lot to this defense and resigning him at this price especially is a huge win for the Bills organization and Bills fans. If you aren't one of the latter, go back to your Patriots message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: I think Beane is just getting started. Yup. Feels like he has a couple other restructures up his sleeve. Buy us at least one more bigger signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Fair enough. I’m not disagreeing with you too much. I like the signing, but yes I would be disappointed if that means they can’t get a DE or Williams back. Agreed... don’t get me wrong Milano is a good player and has value but in this cap year I’m doing everything I can to keep Williams (within reason) and get a proven edge rusher linebacker is a luxury not a necessity and I think can be replaced in the draft much easier than a great RT or proven pass rusher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Wow! Little bit of a hometown discount! Kind of feel he was motivated to be here. Don’t believe the cap made it a weak market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Do you think he also eats off the dollar menu at McDonalds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Do you think he also eats off the dollar menu at McDonalds? No, he will not take you on a date. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: In McDermott's defense in particular, a player like Milano is hugely critical. And Milano's deal is a bargain for Buffalo. If this were a $13 or $14 million dollar deal, maybe you'd have a bit of an argument. The problem for you is that this is a good deal for a very good player. And while you're obsessed with stats, I prefer wins. This is similar to the argument in terms of complaints with Star Lotulelei. His impact on the game is not showing up on the stat sheet and I think this year everyone came to appreciate what he brought to the team as a player in 2019 because we saw how the team was without him. Again.... the team lost more games and gave up significantly more points and yards without Milano in the lineup. He matters a lot to this defense and resigning him at this price especially is a huge win for the Bills organization and Bills fans. If you aren't one of the latter, go back to your Patriots message board. who mentioned stats... I haven’t mentioned stats one time as my benchmark. I believe keeping Allen save is priority one and Williams did that so pay him I believe the next step to catch the chiefs is to put pressure on mahomes, enter the pass rusher Milano’s position is valuable but I’m not convinced you can’t find a player like him in the draft much easier than an all pro RT or proven pass rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Great signing, affordable and cap friendly. He never got paid commensurate with the top guys, hometown discount. I'm a big fan of this individual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: No, he will not take you on a date. @GunnerBill Are you paying attention? He’s available. Edited March 11, 2021 by Royale with Cheese 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jerboski said: who mentioned stats... I haven’t mentioned stats one time as my benchmark. I believe keeping Allen save is priority one and Williams did that so pay him I believe the next step to catch the chiefs is to put pressure on mahomes, enter the pass rusher Milano’s position is valuable but I’m not convinced you can’t find a player like him in the draft much easier than an all pro RT or proven pass rusher "the bird in the hand is better then......." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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