YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Also heard they will be heavy after Pederson update 1/14: Edited January 15, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Saleh is a terrific coach and the Jets already have a strong Defense with good personnel. But, if I'm the Jets I look for a HC who can develop Darnold and drastically improve that Offense. They'll have Draft picks and money, so they need to ensure Darnold's improvement. Pederson might be just the guy or if Saleh has a really strong OC as a candidate in his mind, that might be a good formula as well: build on the strength of the team and put an Offensive expert in total control of that side of the ball. Just not sure who that OC would be to complement Saleh or any other Defensive minded / talented HC. I'm sure they're out there, I just have paid much attention. I've gotten used to this making the post-season and focusing on winning thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Also heard they will be heavy after Pederson They should (obviously) want Daboll considering that they are either keeping Darnold, drafting Justin Fields, or both. The most important thing they can do is to take the next three years to "build" their next QB, just like Daboll did with Allen. But, of course, this is the Jets, so they're screw it up somehow or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I would be astounded if they dont hire Pederson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Also heard they will be heavy after Pederson Please go after Pederson. His one season they were really good was imo because of Frank Reich. He leaves and their offense goes in the dumps. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 If daboll acts the same in interviews as he does in his press conferences, I could see why teams might pass on him. Though I believe he's very buttoned up for his pc's and doubt he's like that all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: They should (obviously) want Daboll considering that they are either keeping Darnold, drafting Justin Fields, or both. The most important thing they can do is to take the next three years to "build" their next QB, just like Daboll did with Allen. But, of course, this is the Jets, so they're screw it up somehow or other. The media scrutiny in the Big Apple is too intense....The same media in Buffalo is usually sleeping on the wheels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Saleh as HC, Pederson as OC would be a good outcome for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Also heard they will be heavy after Pederson 🤔 Hey, it seems to work in politics! Edited January 12, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Saleh as HC, Pederson as OC would be a good outcome for them. I tend to agree with a theory posited by Rapsheet on Pat McAfee's show the other day - Pederson would not have dug his heels in if he did not have a good idea that he had HC options elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he signs as HC somewhere he as connections without a lot of heads up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Please go after Pederson. His one season they were really good was imo because of Frank Reich. He leaves and their offense goes in the dumps. His work with Wentz speaks for itself. Completely agree with you. His work with his assistant in KC also speaks for itself. Undisciplined, lousy leader. Hope they hire him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: 🤔 Hey, it seems to work in politics! In fact, the there a movement to have Pederson symbolically censured from coaching the Eagles after he's out of the office. 😆 Edited January 12, 2021 by benderbender 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: Please go after Pederson. His one season they were really good was imo because of Frank Reich. He leaves and their offense goes in the dumps. They also let their bullpen QB walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I tend to agree with a theory posited by Rapsheet on Pat McAfee's show the other day - Pederson would not have dug his heels in if he did not have a good idea that he had HC options elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he signs as HC somewhere he as connections without a lot of heads up. Or his agent Bob LaMonte has overplayed his hand yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA OC Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Maybe Marrone will finally get his dream job. Please, please let that happen. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BigBuff423 said: Saleh is a terrific coach and the Jets already have a strong Defense with good personnel. But, if I'm the Jets I look for a HC who can develop Darnold and drastically improve that Offense. They'll have Draft picks and money, so they need to ensure Darnold's improvement. Pederson might be just the guy or if Saleh has a really strong OC as a candidate in his mind, that might be a good formula as well: build on the strength of the team and put an Offensive expert in total control of that side of the ball. Just not sure who that OC would be to complement Saleh or any other Defensive minded / talented HC. I'm sure they're out there, I just have paid much attention. I've gotten used to this making the post-season and focusing on winning thing..... Adam Gase would be a good choice! It is tougher to find that guy as it basically is either going to be some up and coming position coach with likely limited to no experience as a coordinator or someone who was fired. For any existing coordinator it's a lateral move, so not likely to generate interest and his existing team can block it. Then if you're hiring a defensive guy, would you really want to trust the offense to someone who's never called plays. It's much different than if say Daboll gets a HC job and he asks and is allowed to hire Ken Dorsey as his OC. He can work closely with him, but if a guy like Saleh is hired as HC, does make it tough to find the right guy for the OC job. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BigBuff423 said: Saleh is a terrific coach and the Jets already have a strong Defense with good personnel. But, if I'm the Jets I look for a HC who can develop Darnold and drastically improve that Offense. They'll have Draft picks and money, so they need to ensure Darnold's improvement. Pederson might be just the guy or if Saleh has a really strong OC as a candidate in his mind, that might be a good formula as well: build on the strength of the team and put an Offensive expert in total control of that side of the ball. Just not sure who that OC would be to complement Saleh or any other Defensive minded / talented HC. I'm sure they're out there, I just have paid much attention. I've gotten used to this making the post-season and focusing on winning thing..... Then I believe you are approaching it wrong. Leadership first, leadership above all. I thought the Jets were similarly minded as you.... must be an offensive guy. The fact Saleh is a finalist makes me think maybe they are approaching it the right way after all. Don't fixate on a side of the ball. Fixate on a guy you think can lead a programme. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I love this come join the Jets so you can be fired a few years later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said: Please go after Pederson. His one season they were really good was imo because of Frank Reich. He leaves and their offense goes in the dumps. I don't understand this at all. Reich had just been fired by SD, and Pederson called the plays in 2017, not Reich. Reich appears to be a good head coach, which I'm happy about, but he was barely more than a glorified Curtis Modkins in 2017. Reich as the genius who made it all happen in 2017 is a myth that deserves to die. The reason the Eagles offense was so good that year is because a) they were very talented, b) they had no real injuries except for an aging Jason Peters and Wentz late in the season. They were otherwise stacked, especially on the o-line in terms of both overall talent and depth, and they had a great backup QB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I don't understand this at all. Reich had just been fired by SD, and Pederson called the plays in 2017, not Reich. Reich appears to be a good head coach, which I'm happy about, but he was barely more than a glorified Curtis Modkins in 2017. Reich as the genius who made it all happen in 2017 is a myth that deserves to die. The reason the Eagles offense was so good that year is because a) they were very talented, b) they had no real injuries except for an aging Jason Peters and Wentz late in the season. They were otherwise stacked, especially on the o-line in terms of both overall talent and depth, and they had a great backup QB. I said it then and I say it now.... Pederson called some great games in the playoffs but that was a Howie Roseman Superbowl win. Top to bottom one of the most talented and deepest rosters I have seen in my time watching the league, everywhere except probably corner was stacked. The defensive and offensive lines were so deep you could make a starting line for almost any other team out of their 2nd strings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 43 minutes ago, CA OC Bills Fan said: Maybe Marrone will finally get his dream job. Please, please let that happen. Walmart greeter? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Would love to see Saleh in New York. Would much prefer them to be a good defense than a good offense. You can get by in this league with a bottom barrel defense if you have a good offense, the reverse is not true IMO. I’d like to see Pederson in NY too just because I feel he’s a horrible coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Also heard they will be heavy after Pederson I wonder if Rex is on the list ? 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Would love to see Saleh in New York. Would much prefer them to be a good defense than a good offense. You can get by in this league with a bottom barrel defense if you have a good offense, the reverse is not true IMO. I’d like to see Pederson in NY too just because I feel he’s a horrible coach. Yea cos defensive Head Coaches can't have good offenses. Like Sean McDermott. And Bill Belichick. And Pete Carroll. And John Harbaugh. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Would love to see Saleh in New York. Would much prefer them to be a good defense than a good offense. You can get by in this league with a bottom barrel defense if you have a good offense, the reverse is not true IMO. I’d like to see Pederson in NY too just because I feel he’s a horrible coach. I don’t get the logic here. Being a defensive HC doesn’t make your team destined to have a poor offense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 54 minutes ago, CA OC Bills Fan said: Maybe Marrone will finally get his dream job. Please, please let that happen. Great idea! Let's hope the Jets stay to form and completely whiff on this hire. Would Dick Jauron come out of retirement for them? Is Rich Kotite to old? They could always go back to Rex Ryan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: I would be astounded if they dont hire Pederson. I'd be astounded if he took the job. Or if anyone with credibility does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Just now, Bulldog said: Is Rich Kotite to old? At least now at age 78, his confused looks on the sidelines could be attributed to senilty. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Maybe Rex can come out of retirement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 48 minutes ago, Adam said: I'd be astounded if he took the job. Or if anyone with credibility does. Remember what Buddy Nix said about NFL Coaching jobs. Only 32 of them, someone would even take the Raiders job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 Btw Gus Bradley was just hired as DC for the raiders 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: I tend to agree with a theory posited by Rapsheet on Pat McAfee's show the other day - Pederson would not have dug his heels in if he did not have a good idea that he had HC options elsewhere. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he signs as HC somewhere he as connections without a lot of heads up. This is very similar to the Marrone situation and we see how that worked out, though some of that might have been the smear campaign by Manish Mehta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I think that would be an unusually smart move from the Jets. Saleh just strikes me as a guy who can lead and will energise a room. That roster is a long way off being good but I confess I like the hire. 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Btw Gus Bradley was just hired as DC for the raiders Decent hire for Gruden. Upgrade on Paul Gunther IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 The latest rumor is that they have a deal in place... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Seems like a solid hire, now depends on the staff w him and what they do about Darnold because fields last night doesn’t seem to be their immediate answer at QB, JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, syhuang said: The latest rumor is that they have a deal in place... It's a believable rumor but whoever that person is is not a reputable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Would love to see Saleh in New York. Would much prefer them to be a good defense than a good offense. You can get by in this league with a bottom barrel defense if you have a good offense, the reverse is not true IMO. I’d like to see Pederson in NY too just because I feel he’s a horrible coach. Right. Because defensive coaches like McDermott never care about the offensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This is selfish of me, but I hope everyone shafts daboll. I want daboll pissed and ready to win the superbowl this year and next. Stick it to the man daboll, run up the score 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Steptide said: If daboll acts the same in interviews as he does in his press conferences, I could see why teams might pass on him. Though I believe he's very buttoned up for his pc's and doubt he's like that all the time I agree 100% kinda looks like Freddie Kitchens without hair too lol. Hes got that good ol boy thing going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Beast said: Right. Because defensive coaches like McDermott never care about the offensive side of the ball. It would make sense to assume the defensive side of the ball would be his strength, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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