HardyBoy Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Am I the only person who had no idea he was part of the Sammy 04 draft class?! I was randomly looking at the top of the 20l4 draft class and scrolled down a bit and there he was! So instead of trading for sammy and kb, they prob coulda figured out some way to get Mack and kb for less? Edited December 19, 2020 by HardyBoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: Am I the only person who had no idea he was part of the Sammy 04 draft class?! I was randomly looking at the top of the 20l4 draft class and scrolled down a bit and there he was! So instead of trading for sammy and kb, they prob coulda figured out some way to get Mack and kb for less? Scroll waaaaaaaay further down for Davante Adams. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Yes, he was one of many good receivers from that draft, or anyway he looked like a good one for a few years. They were very high on Beckham Jr and if they hadn't traded up we'd likely have ended up with him or Ebron. Edited December 19, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I think most people here know he's that much of a gigantic disappointment. Drafted before Davante Adams Allen Robinson and John Brown, yikes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, HardyBoy said: Am I the only person who had no idea he was part of the Sammy 04 draft class?! I was randomly looking at the top of the 20l4 draft class and scrolled down a bit and there he was! So instead of trading for sammy and kb, they prob coulda figured out some way to get Mack and kb for less? you look back At the first two rounds of that 2014 NFL Draft, and there is a lot of regret. The Bills gave up a bunch to draft Sammie Watkins, and then picked Cyrus Koundjo in the second round. I know draft analysis can be 20/20, but the first two rounds resulted in a ton of talented NFL Players (Mack, Donald, etc.). It’s a shame we couldn’t have hit on someone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Yes it was a well known fact. And he was a very good WR prior to knee injury. They could have selected Mack and many of us wanted that to happen after they made the trade announcement. But they gave up a 2015 first round pick. There is no way they could have had both Mack and KB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, HardyBoy said: Am I the only person who had no idea he was part of the Sammy 04 draft class?! I was randomly looking at the top of the 20l4 draft class and scrolled down a bit and there he was! So instead of trading for sammy and kb, they prob coulda figured out some way to get Mack and kb for less? Am I the only one that thinks your ignorance doesn’t deserve it’s own thread!?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Kelvin Benjamin, Brandin Cooks, Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, Jarvis Landry, John Brown, and more. One of the deepest WR classes in history and we traded up for one 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, HardyBoy said: Am I the only person who had no idea he was part of the Sammy 04 draft class?! I was randomly looking at the top of the 20l4 draft class and scrolled down a bit and there he was! So instead of trading for sammy and kb, they prob coulda figured out some way to get Mack and kb for less? By figured out, you mean could have taken Mack instead of Watkins? Or gone for Evans, Beckham or others without giving up the pick the year after? Yeah, coulda done all that.. but somebody has to be the punch line of the jokes and before this year, that was the best strategy to get national media attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Was Benjamin a 'weighted' pick? 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 The other factoid I like is the 2006 draft. At one point 5 of the top 10 picks played for the bills - including 1,2 and 3. That very hyped draft was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. If you redrafted today - Kyle Williams would possibly be a top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Yes it was a well known fact. And he was a very good WR prior to knee injury. They could have selected Mack and many of us wanted that to happen after they made the trade announcement. But they gave up a 2015 first round pick. There is no way they could have had both Mack and KB. Draft Mack with pick we used on Sammy. Trade third rd pick for Benjamin when we did. Boom both on team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 hours ago, QCity said: Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Kelvin Benjamin, Brandin Cooks, Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, Jarvis Landry, John Brown, and more. One of the deepest WR classes in history and we traded up for one The Watkins trade up was one of the biggest mistake setbacks this organization had made in recent memory. I’m so glad we have a real organization who would never make such a foolish decision such as that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: The other factoid I like is the 2006 draft. At one point 5 of the top 10 picks played for the bills - including 1,2 and 3. That very hyped draft was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. If you redrafted today - Kyle Williams would possibly be a top 10 pick. Fun fact: factoid usually means something that’s false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 When he was in Buffalo, Benjamin ran like he had a piano on his back. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Watkins would be having a career worthy of a #4 overall pick if it were not for the nagging injuries which no one could account for. Played a key role in KCs super bowl run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: Fun fact: factoid usually means something that’s false. It's one of those words where we just sort of decided it means something else because "factoid" sounds like it SHOULD mean a cute small fact. I love language. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 The Bills are about to win the AFC East for the first time in 25 years. Let’s focus on that today. Kelvin Benjamin’s name never has to be brought up again 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Yes, he was one of many good receivers from that draft, or anyway he looked like a good one for a few years. They were very high on Beckham Jr and if they hadn't traded up we'd likely have ended up with him or Ebron. So we were screwed either way? Neither Watkins, OBJ or Ebron saw a second contract with their original team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Still remember being hyped we traded up to draft Mack, keep him in buffalo and make the bills defense one of the greatest of all time with the talent we already had 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 What never made sense to me was Mack was right in the Bills back yard and they could have or did watch along with here all of what he had done while in Buffalo and you still don't have him considered as your first rounder with out trading up 🤔 ? Whaley could do some good things as far as moving around in the draft to get who he wanted but he needed someone like McD to lead him in the right direction i don't know who was in on the decision to waste that many #1's for Sammy but i'm thinking there were more than just Whaley putting that brain storm together . I don't think from what little bit i heard from a Monus (the scout) interview that he wasn't much help because he said he didn't think Pat Mahomes talent would translate to the NFL boy what a turd move that turned out to be !! But we got Josh now which is probably a better fit for the Bills so all is good ... GO BILLS !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I was shocked to learn the other day that Todd Gurley was drafted in 2015. Feels like he's been around forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: Fun fact: factoid usually means something that’s false. Your right. I’ll re-sign my self to a poor grasp of the American language. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Charles Romes said: Watkins would be having a career worthy of a #4 overall pick if it were not for the nagging injuries which no one could account for. Played a key role in KCs super bowl run. He still may....in some drafts. Unfortunately that draft was stacked so he will never be worthy if 4 overall that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Nelius said: I think most people here know he's that much of a gigantic disappointment. Drafted before Davante Adams Allen Robinson and John Brown, yikes ....Doug Whaley ladies and gentlemen. And people still pretend like he was a great GM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Still remember being hyped we traded up to draft Mack, keep him in buffalo and make the bills defense one of the greatest of all time with the talent we already had Almost lost a tv that day. I’m just lucky my best friend was too drunk to aim when he threw the remote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Azucho98 said: When he was in Buffalo, Benjamin ran like he had a piano on his back. And caught a football like he had a basketball backboard on his chest and brick mittens on his hands... and he played the game like he had Kyle Orton’s heart and smokin’ Jay Cutler’s attitude - “doooooon’t caaaare”. Edited December 19, 2020 by transient 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Draft Mack with pick we used on Sammy. Trade third rd pick for Benjamin when we did. Boom both on I thought you meant get both in the draft. Hell they could trade for Mack now and sign KB as a FA and have both of them now. KB was never the same after the knee injury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 48 minutes ago, T master said: What never made sense to me was Mack was right in the Bills back yard and they could have or did watch along with here all of what he had done while in Buffalo and you still don't have him considered as your first rounder with out trading up 🤔 ? Whaley could do some good things as far as moving around in the draft to get who he wanted but he needed someone like McD to lead him in the right direction i don't know who was in on the decision to waste that many #1's for Sammy but i'm thinking there were more than just Whaley putting that brain storm together . I don't think from what little bit i heard from a Monus (the scout) interview that he wasn't much help because he said he didn't think Pat Mahomes talent would translate to the NFL boy what a turd move that turned out to be !! But we got Josh now which is probably a better fit for the Bills so all is good ... GO BILLS !! McD was coach when Whaley was a lame duck GM. McD passed on Mahomes to get more picks in a known QB rich draft the following year. We don't know what Whaley thought of Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 You are probably not the only but this is common nfl knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 55 minutes ago, T master said: What never made sense to me was Mack was right in the Bills back yard and they could have or did watch along with here all of what he had done while in Buffalo and you still don't have him considered as your first rounder with out trading up 🤔 ? I wonder did Special Assistant Nix get handed that plum assignment late in his career, but fell asleep during the tapes? Consequently, he was stuck with the Cliff Notes evaluation, and Mel Kiper Jr.'s wisdom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Any FSU fan here has a love/hate relationship with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: Your right. I’ll re-sign my self to a poor grasp of the American language. I hope that helps your self of steam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Azucho98 said: When he was in Buffalo, Benjamin ran like he had a piano on his back. The single greatest thing to ever come out of Booger McFarlands mouth 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I hope that helps your self of steam For all in tents and porpoises now you’re just adding in salt to injury, irregardless of weather you meant to add pepper or not. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: The single greatest thing to ever come out of Booger McFarlands mouth Oh that's great. "He's probably a Popeye's Biscuit away from being a tight end...and he has trouble getting separation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Could have sat right where they were and drafted Odell Beckham as most draft analysts thought they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Charles Romes said: Watkins would be having a career worthy of a #4 overall pick if it were not for the nagging injuries which no one could account for. Played a key role in KCs super bowl run. Watchkins wasn't worth one number 1 pick let alone TWO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 16 hours ago, HardyBoy said: Am I the only person who had no idea he was part of the Sammy 04 draft class?! I was randomly looking at the top of the 20l4 draft class and scrolled down a bit and there he was! So instead of trading for sammy and kb, they prob coulda figured out some way to get Mack and kb for less? I have so moved on from KB, so long ago... why do you guys hang on to these tired old subjects? Go Bills , go win the Division for the first time since my kids were in pre school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 Wait, John Brown was in that draft class?! Have a feeling I'm going to be saying the same thing about Gabriel Davis in six years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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